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Message 336510 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 12:07:59 UTC - in response to Message 336501.  

How is a post about Abu Musab relevant in any way to SETI?

As a caucasian american convert to Islam I find this to be
obscene. If you condemn the 911 attacks, are you willing to
to condemn the Irish for their acts of terrorism? are you
willing to condemn the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
which by the text book definition of terrorism, were terrorist
acts?


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Hey Einstein, you don't have to condemn an action to no be in favor of it.

Am I glad we had to drop the bomb on Japan? Hell no, but Japan got what they deserved for not only attacking us, but for aligning themselves with a genocidal madman hellbent on conquoring the world.


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Message 336516 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 12:15:54 UTC

We live in a time where, if you don't stand with those
who are condemning, we stand to be condemned.
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Message 336525 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 12:23:04 UTC

Then maybe you should try moving out of China.

I hear in America, not only are we allowed to have differing opinions, but we are even allowed to express them without interference by the government.


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Message 336530 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 12:28:36 UTC - in response to Message 336501.  

How is a post about Abu Musab relevant in any way to SETI?

As a caucasian american convert to Islam I find this to be
obscene. If you condemn the 911 attacks, are you willing to
to condemn the Irish for their acts of terrorism? are you
willing to condemn the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
which by the text book definition of terrorism, were terrorist
acts?


No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting.
No abusive comments involving race, religion, nationality, gender, class or sexuality.

"Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise"

Of course your worldview isn't tainted by your religious conversion is it?

The Irish Republican Army? That's a different horse altogether isn't it?
Firebombing of Tokyo is best justified by the fact that there was no way that the US was to allow that war to continue any further....that entire nation was on its way to self destruction. They had murdered/raped their way throughout Korea and China....the poor people of the Phillipines had been massacred over and over. The cities of Japan proper were nothing but a war machine...churning out weaponry.

As far as the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs...

When the president was deciding whether or not to use this weapon he was in doubt and when he was informed that it would cost 1 MILLION DEAD AMERICANS to do otherwise....to invade Japan, he was told "sir, if you don't use this weapon what will you say at your impeachment...."

I'm glad we've got those 1 million Americans....

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Message 336539 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 12:36:51 UTC - in response to Message 336525.  

Then maybe you should try moving out of China.

I hear in America, not only are we allowed to have differing opinions, but we are even allowed to express them without interference by the government.

With out overt interference by the government.

How can you form a proper opinion about something when your media and education system works so hard to keep you from knowing all the facts?

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was a horrible man, I don't think there are many that will morn his passing, however, to sit and cheer and gloat is distasteful. We should all be thinking about his victims and the tragedy of having to send young men out to be killers in order to stop him.
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Message 336560 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 13:04:23 UTC

And now, our lead story today...

Sheikh Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Generalíssimo Francisco Franco are still dead.

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Message 336562 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 13:06:18 UTC - in response to Message 336560.  

And now, our lead story today...

Sheikh Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Generalíssimo Francisco Franco are still dead.

DAMMIT!!!! THEN WHO IS GUARDING MY LEPRECHAUNS?
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Message 336597 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 14:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 336516.  

We live in a time where, if you don't stand with those
who are condemning, we stand to be condemned.

As someone who is not an American, but who lost five friends on September 11th, worthwhile people all, I say to you:

On your propaganda - No sale! Take your threats couched in pious language and try to sell them to the gullible. The rest of us oppose you, and in the end, we will win.



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Message 336707 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 16:19:02 UTC
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Day 7: Abu Al Zarqawi is still dead (for all you who think this is a hoax or a conspiracy). I'm not cheering about it, I'm just noting the fact for all those who don't believe it. In fact, in the past I have said that I mourn for his family. I also mourn for all those innocent victims of his terror attacks and for those he beheaded.
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Message 336744 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:00:56 UTC - in response to Message 336539.  

Then maybe you should try moving out of China.

I hear in America, not only are we allowed to have differing opinions, but we are even allowed to express them without interference by the government.

With out overt interference by the government.

How can you form a proper opinion about something when your media and education system works so hard to keep you from knowing all the facts?

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was a horrible man, I don't think there are many that will morn his passing, however, to sit and cheer and gloat is distasteful. We should all be thinking about his victims and the tragedy of having to send young men out to be killers in order to stop him.


1. You don't get to redefine our 1st Amendement regardless of how much you may disagree with the concept or the reality of it
2. I don't rely on the mainstream media or my education as the sole source for my information.
3. I'm certainly not dancing in the streets like we saw the muslim community doing after 9/11, but as you stated, I'm certainly not morning the death of a terrorist piece of crap either.

You see, darling, I don't consider western culture to be evil, the USA to be Hell, and Bush to be the devil. That allows me to be objective when I hear news stories......something you OBVIOUSLY don't have the ability to do.


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Message 336754 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:10:24 UTC - in response to Message 336744.  

1. You don't get to redefine our 1st Amendement regardless of how much you may disagree with the concept or the reality of it
2. I don't rely on the mainstream media or my education as the sole source for my information.
3. I'm certainly not dancing in the streets like we saw the muslim community doing after 9/11, but as you stated, I'm certainly not morning the death of a terrorist piece of crap either.

I think I have some idea of where you get your information from. You seem like a very frightened man. Where did you see the footage of 'the Muslim community' dancing in the streets? Why weren't you shown the footage of 'the Muslim community' acting in horror and disgust..because that was the reaction I saw from every single Muslim I know.

You see, darling, I don't consider western culture to be evil, the USA to be Hell, and Bush to be the devil. That allows me to be objective when I hear news stories......something you OBVIOUSLY don't have the ability to do.

Don't call me darling you ignorant f*ck...and don't make assumptions about what I think about America or Americans..:-)
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Message 336761 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:26:35 UTC - in response to Message 336754.  


I think I have some idea of where you get your information from. You seem like a very frightened man. Where did you see the footage of 'the Muslim community' dancing in the streets? Why weren't you shown the footage of 'the Muslim community' acting in horror and disgust..because that was the reaction I saw from every single Muslim I know.



I remember the day of 9/11 the video coverage of the Palestinians dancing in the streets over it.
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Message 336768 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:35:00 UTC - in response to Message 336761.  

I remember the day of 9/11 the video coverage of the Palestinians dancing in the streets over it.

I'm sure that's true...but why was that the only footage of Muslim's you were shown?
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Message 336770 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:37:39 UTC - in response to Message 336707.  

Day 7: Abu Al Zarqawi is still dead (for all you who think this is a hoax or a conspiracy). I'm not cheering about it, I'm just noting the fact for all those who don't believe it. In fact, in the past I have said that I mourn for his family. I also mourn for all those innocent victims of his terror attacks and for those he beheaded.


According to a video of a CNN reporter his own father wanted him dead dead dead because as a youth he was a thug...

He already had 2 death sentences passed on him in Jordanian courts.

I do not mourn for his family. I am much less charitable than you are....

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I think I have some idea of where you get your information from. You seem like a very frightened man. Where did you see the footage of 'the Muslim community' dancing in the streets? Why weren't you shown the footage of 'the Muslim community' acting in horror and disgust..because that was the reaction I saw from every single Muslim I know.



I remember the day of 9/11 the video coverage of the Palestinians dancing in the streets over it.

I saw that too. It did leave me with a definite feeling of anger. I remember it well: and the 5 friends I lost in the WTC were guilty of nothing more than showing up for work on time. :(



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Message 336773 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:40:51 UTC - in response to Message 336768.  

I remember the day of 9/11 the video coverage of the Palestinians dancing in the streets over it.

I'm sure that's true...but why was that the only footage of Muslim's you were shown?

Actually there were a good number of other muslims who were shown on TV that day. Many were covered in soot from the collapse of the Twin Towers. Several were wearing firefighter uniforms.

What the world did not see was a single organized rally that day in the Islamic world denouncing the terrorist attacks. It wasn't conclusive that day that Islamic terrorists had perpetrated the attacks, but the choice of targets was enough to get Palestinians and other dancing in the streets.
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Message 336774 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:41:18 UTC - in response to Message 336761.  


I think I have some idea of where you get your information from. You seem like a very frightened man. Where did you see the footage of 'the Muslim community' dancing in the streets? Why weren't you shown the footage of 'the Muslim community' acting in horror and disgust..because that was the reaction I saw from every single Muslim I know.



I remember the day of 9/11 the video coverage of the Palestinians dancing in the streets over it.

Yes...that was everywhere. Anyone claiming otherwise with the notion that 'I know a muslim that wasn't dancing in the streets'...is the exception that proves the RULE....
Clue in, everyone. The Jihad is everywhere and has been for a long long time...
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Message 336780 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:44:46 UTC - in response to Message 336773.  

I remember the day of 9/11 the video coverage of the Palestinians dancing in the streets over it.

I'm sure that's true...but why was that the only footage of Muslim's you were shown?

Actually there were a good number of other muslims who were shown on TV that day. Many were covered in soot from the collapse of the Twin Towers. Several were wearing firefighter uniforms.

What the world did not see was a single organized rally that day in the Islamic world denouncing the terrorist attacks. It wasn't conclusive that day that Islamic terrorists had perpetrated the attacks, but the choice of targets was enough to get Palestinians and other dancing in the streets.

Yet there were Muslim led rally's denouncing the attacks. How come they weren't given the same coverage?

You also might want to ask yourself why the Palestinians would have such hatred for the US that they would be celebrating an act of mass murder perpetuated against them.
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Message 336790 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 17:50:35 UTC

The Palestinians?

Call us crazy but the Palestinian militants explicitly state they wish to destroy the JEWS...Hamas, the PLO, Islamic Jihad, whomever...

The U.S.A supports Israel, the 'JEWS'....it is easy to see the hatred...

BTW, if it were due to strictly opposing views of anti 'imperialism' then they would be most apt to aim their anger at the BRITS as the Americans don't have a history there like the BRITS do with their occupations and colonies.

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Message 336797 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 18:00:58 UTC - in response to Message 336790.  

The Palestinians?

Call us crazy but the Palestinian militants explicitly state they wish to destroy the JEWS...Hamas, the PLO, Islamic Jihad, whomever...

The U.S.A supports Israel, the 'JEWS'....it is easy to see the hatred...

BTW, if it were due to strictly opposing views of anti 'imperialism' then they would be most apt to aim their anger at the BRITS as the Americans don't have a history there like the BRITS do with their occupations and colonies.

Education in history is a virtue.

Aim their anger at the Brits you say? You mean like placing bombs on our tube trains and buses?

However, the British Empire is finished along with the atrocities committed in it's name. The American one is not, and the majority of the British population are disgusted with our government for following the US into their war.

The Palestinians hate the Jews, they took their land and murdered thousands of them. There is enough hatred and slaughter there on both sides, but it didn't just come out of thin air. Perhaps you should look into the history before you judge them.
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