Hi, I really dont know what I'm doing. I looked at several threads about installing enhanced as well as the optimized version for enhanced. I let all my WUs drain out, and then I deleted the XML file. I allowed new work and I got the enhanced application. Then I let that one WU drain away. Then I dowloaded Crunch3r's application and extracted it into the Setiathome folder in the boinc directory. I already had an optimized app in there and i kinda deleted part of it or something. IDK i feel ive kinda made a mess of the whole setiathome Folder. Maybe someone can tell me exactly what it is that i should have in there? Anyway after i extracted the optimized app I put a new xml into the boinc folder, This is what the XML is
<app_info>
- <app>
<name>setiathome</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>setiathome_4.11_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome</app_name>
<version_num>411</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_4.11_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>setiathome</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>setiathome_4.18_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome</app_name>
<version_num>418</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_4.11_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>512</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>setiathome_5.13_windows_intelx86.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>513</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
The computer is crunching a WU, and has been for 8 hours, its only 70% done. I know the enhanced units take longer, but if its optimized it seems like its too long. I have a Pentium 4M 1.8Ghz. Is that the kind of time i should expect? It did the other old WUs in 2hours.

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Have you looked at the front page? They aren't making any more 4.11/4.18 Wus. They're only making the enhanced wus which take 5.12, 5.13 etc.

The computer is crunching a WU, and has been for 8 hours, its only 70% done. I know the enhanced units take longer, but if its optimized it seems like its too long. I have a Pentium 4M 1.8Ghz. Is that the kind of time i should expect? It did the other old WUs in 2hours.

1. The required computation required for each result in enhanced is far more variable from unit to unit then the previous one.
2. Crunch3r's optimization on enhanced, so far as I now, is compiler optimization. By itself this may provide very, very roughly something like 20% speedup over the distributed ap. Many of the more algorithmic optimizations that formed part of the enormous performance advantage of crunch3r's 4.11 ap over the previous distributed ap are already present in the 5.nn distributed ap, so without new invention, the scope for optimization is far less.

Crunch3r'2 optimized 5.12 ap signs itself this way in stderr:

Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Crunch3r
Version info: Windows SSE2 V5.12 by Crunch3r

If you see that when the result is done, then you were running optimized.

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Have you looked at the front page? They aren't making any more 4.11/4.18 Wus. They're only making the enhanced wus which take 5.12, 5.13 etc.

I know they arent. I found that XML thing somewhere and for some reason thought it was the right one. But i guess its not since according to the stderr it just says core client. Is all i need to get optimized a proper XML? What is it?

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The computer is crunching a WU, and has been for 8 hours, its only 70% done. I know the enhanced units take longer, but if its optimized it seems like its too long. I have a Pentium 4M 1.8Ghz. Is that the kind of time i should expect? It did the other old WUs in 2hours.

I run Crunch3r's Optimized App and I have 3 WUs that my systems says will take 10 hours to process. I've had other WUs that process in under an hour. This is in comparison to the average of 40 minutes per WU before.

The AR value will impact how long it takes to process a WU and the WUs will certainly take longer than before to process.

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Have you looked at the front page? They aren't making any more 4.11/4.18 Wus. They're only making the enhanced wus which take 5.12, 5.13 etc.

I know they arent. I found that XML thing somewhere and for some reason thought it was the right one. But i guess its not since according to the stderr it just says core client. Is all i need to get optimized a proper XML? What is it?

Here's the link to Crunch3r's web site.

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If you want to start clean, delete or rename the folder (seti) and attach again.

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Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station. - Grand Moff Tarkin

Have you looked at the front page? They aren't making any more 4.11/4.18 Wus. They're only making the enhanced wus which take 5.12, 5.13 etc.

Whare did you see that? I could not find it, all I could find was:
May 4, 2006
We've started distributing work for a new version of SETI@home called SETI@home Enhanced.

But since then they have had both types as it was not a one day switch. Still getting the older BOINC type, but not as many. They seem to have run out today but that was not put on the frunt page, many still pending so some are still working on them.

Whare did you see that?

Front page, third story down. do a screen refresh (F5).

tony

Whare did you see that?

Front page, third story down. do a screen refresh (F5).

tony

I saw it Tony, 3 messages down, must have been blind when I read past that before.

I completely erased BOINC and everything to do with it. Then i re downloaded and reattached to SETI. I didnt let it get any work. Then I extracted the optimized files into the Setiathome directory. Now it says download failed and wont work. what did i do wrong?

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Best thing ever is to set your queue size to 0.1 days or less, let Seti download the normal application and some work, then set BOINC to no new work/tasks, run the cache dry and then exit BOINC, update to an optimized client, restart BOINC, allow new work/tasks.

The app_info.xml file points to the original file as well as the optimized file that it should replace. If the original file is not around, you get errors.

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I completely erased BOINC and everything to do with it. Then i re downloaded and reattached to SETI. I didnt let it get any work. Then I extracted the optimized files into the Setiathome directory. Now it says download failed and wont work. what did i do wrong?

The distributions for optimized applications may not be complete -- you probably want to get at least one work unit (to get the app.) before you install the optimized version.

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Hi im back sorry i havent updated this in a while but im still having problems. I waited for it to do a few WUs as suggested and then i extracted the optimized client into the S@H directory. It would seem the program refuses to use the Setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86 file as it keeps copying the standard 5.15 one and using that instead, everytime i delete 5.15 and try to force it to use the optimized app it comes back. What am i doing wrong.

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Hi im back sorry i havent updated this in a while but im still having problems. I waited for it to do a few WUs as suggested and then i extracted the optimized client into the S@H directory. It would seem the program refuses to use the Setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86 file as it keeps copying the standard 5.15 one and using that instead, everytime i delete 5.15 and try to force it to use the optimized app it comes back. What am i doing wrong.

You're missing the app_info.xml file. It's needed to run the optimized app.
Take a look at my page, there's one available for download.

Just extract the app_info.xml into the same directory as the optimized app. and you're ready to go ;)

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Hi im back sorry i havent updated this in a while but im still having problems. I waited for it to do a few WUs as suggested and then i extracted the optimized client into the S@H directory. It would seem the program refuses to use the Setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86 file as it keeps copying the standard 5.15 one and using that instead, everytime i delete 5.15 and try to force it to use the optimized app it comes back. What am i doing wrong.

You're missing the app_info.xml file. It's needed to run the optimized app.
Take a look at my page, there's one available for download.

Just extract the app_info.xml into the same directory as the optimized app. and you're ready to go ;)

Thanks! it finally definately worked as I can no longer see the graphics.

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Hi im back sorry i havent updated this in a while but im still having problems. I waited for it to do a few WUs as suggested and then i extracted the optimized client into the S@H directory. It would seem the program refuses to use the Setiathome_5.12_windows_intelx86 file as it keeps copying the standard 5.15 one and using that instead, everytime i delete 5.15 and try to force it to use the optimized app it comes back. What am i doing wrong.

You're missing the app_info.xml file. It's needed to run the optimized app.
Take a look at my page, there's one available for download.

Just extract the app_info.xml into the same directory as the optimized app. and you're ready to go ;)

Crunch3r,

Why did you include up to 5.19 in your app_info.xml file?

Thanks for all your good work.

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Which windows version is the fastest?
... and how much faster than official 5.15 on different CPUs?

Which windows version is the fastest?
... and how much faster than official 5.15 on different CPUs?

Ooh...now things are getting interesting. :) I don't think there are any optimized Windows Enhanced applications in wide circulation besides the ones that Crunch3r used to offer. If you do look at Crunch3r's clients, though, I wouldn't use the numbers from the quick reference WU on marisan.nl to judge performance gains--the performance profile of that WU doesn't represent SETI performance in general, at least not from my experience optimizing for PPC.

Which windows version is the fastest?
... and how much faster than official 5.15 on different CPUs?

Ooh...now things are getting interesting. :) I don't think there are any optimized Windows Enhanced applications in wide circulation besides the ones that Crunch3r used to offer. If you do look at Crunch3r's clients, though, I wouldn't use the numbers from the quick reference WU on marisan.nl to judge performance gains--the performance profile of that WU doesn't represent SETI performance in general, at least not from my experience optimizing for PPC.

Thanks. So, i will do a comparison between different versions (5.15, 5.12SSE, 5.12SSE2, ...).
I see 5.15 isn't optimized, i got a 10% faster code after 10 minutes work.
Hm...