I have a athlon 64 3200+ with HT enabled how do I run 2 WU's at the same time?????
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> I have a athlon 64 3200+ with HT enabled how do I run 2 WU's at the same
> time?????

You have to have HT enabled in the BIOS. You have to be running a version of the OS that allows HT to be used. For example, XP Home won't but XP Pro will.

For more help you have to be more specific as to what is going on. What OS, memory size, etc. Otherwise you will get answers that are not useful (like mine :) ).

ok lol ya I have the HT turned on in the bios but I'm running XP home so I guess that bites that in the arse lmao
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You also have to set your Preferences to use 2 CPU's in your Account Page ...

> > I have a athlon 64 3200+ with HT enabled how do I run 2 WU's at the same
> > time?????
>
> You have to have HT enabled in the BIOS. You have to be running a version of
> the OS that allows HT to be used. For example, XP Home won't but XP Pro
> will.
>
> For more help you have to be more specific as to what is going on. What OS,
> memory size, etc. Otherwise you will get answers that are not useful (like
> mine :) ).
> [url=http://homepage.mac.com/pauldbuck/index.html]
>
>
Excuse me! XP Home WILL support Hyper Threading (HT). Why would you say it won't? I have a HT processor and XP Home and it supports HT. XP Home sees it as two processors and BOINC runs two WU's at the same time.

My question is this: Does AMD have Hyperthreading?

Ya amd does. The chip I have is one of the 1st 3200+'s made on the socket 754 so I have 1mb L2 and HT but the newer ones on socket 754 dont only the 940's do. The 754's are a bargen chip now. Also how do I get XP home to see it as 2 processors???
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I think AMD has HyperTransport. It is different that hyperthreading.

"Windows XP Home Edition does in fact support hyperthreading," said Greg Sullivan, lead product manager for Microsoft Windows XP. "While Windows XP Home does not support multiple physical processors, it does support the multiple virtual or logical CPUs enabled by Intel's P4 and hyperthreading."

Hyperthreading is a technology which allows the computer to be working on more than one program (called a thread) at the same time. This differs from the traditional concept of "multi-tasking" because of the following: whereas in a multi-tasking operating system (Windows, Linux, etc.) it appears that multiple programs are running at the same time, they're really not. What's happening is the computer is working on one program for 1/1,000th of a second, then it switches to another and runs it for 1/1,000th of a second, then it switches to the third, etc. So, typically only a few dozen programs are running so each of them receive a large amount of the timeslice per unit time. That makes it appear like they're all running at the same time.

What HyperThreading does is actually run more than one thread at the same time. This has an advantage over single-thread machines (ones without HyperThreading--including AMD's chips), because it is recognized that even in running the most optimized bits of code using all of the resources today's out-of-order execution engines can throw at the it, there are still unused functional units within the processor core. These unused functional units could potentially be used by a second thread. Not always, but potentially. Even if the leftover units are only able to be used 10% of the time, that's a 10% increase in performance.

HyperThreading typically doesn't add much to most code, and it usually eats some overhead to maintain (internally, the operating system must keep track of where each thread is, where it's running, how long to schedule, etc.). It's generally a wash. But, there are instances where it provides significant performance increases (70%+ increase), and other instances where it hurts performance (by 30% or more).

HyperTransport is a bus technology. It is used to transfer data from a chip to other chips or other parts on the motherboard. HyperTransport is multi-ported, meaning that it can be operating several buses simultaneously at full bandwidth.

Generally speaking, a faster FSB speeds up everything. Faster processors only take you so far because nearly everything processor does is fed by external sources, thereby requiring the bus.

ok I just looked @ my book for my MB and restarted my system and looked in the bios it says HYPERTRANSPORT but I thought it said HYPERTHREADING man im a dork lmao
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You have HYPERTRANSPORT on Athlon 64 processor then, it doesn't help with runnig 2 WU at the same time.
HYPERTHREADING is a feature of Intel Pentium 4 which allows to run 2 WU at teh same time, processor looks like with 2 cores processor and then OS recognized it as 2 processors.
I'm going to buy Athlon 64 3000+, how it takes to do 1 WU on your processor please? Are you satisfied with it? Please write me more datails. Thank you.

> I have a athlon 64 3200+ with HT enabled how do I run 2 WU's at the same
> time?????



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Poorboy,

> "Windows XP Home Edition does in fact support hyperthreading," said Greg
> Sullivan, lead product manager for Microsoft Windows XP. "While Windows XP
> Home does not support multiple physical processors, it does support the
> multiple virtual or logical CPUs enabled by Intel's P4 and hyperthreading."

Well, I blew that call, didn't I ...

I knew that it did not support two physical processors and assumed that it did not support two logical procesors either.

Ah, well ...

A very nice explanation though. So nice in fact, I swiped it ...

:)

I love it. I can do a seti WU in just over 2 hrs a predictor mfold WU in just under a hr and a predictor charmm WU in just over 20 min. Thos times should go up when windows XP 64 bit goes live at the beginging of next year. I tryed the beta but had some problems with the beta drivers that are out for the sound card and nic card. Also I would get a 64 chip thats on the socket 940, The socket 754 might be phased out soon even tho AMD said they would use them as a bargin chip. The last 754 I seen made was the 3700+
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I can't wait for socket 940, it is too expensive now, not only processor, but mainboard too. I want to buy 754 socket configuration with 2x512MB 400 CL2,5 DDRAM, I have exactly "family" budget for it ;o))) and probably to upgade it to socket 940 in the next year for small amounth of money.

> I love it. I can do a seti WU in just over 2 hrs a predictor mfold WU in just
> under a hr and a predictor charmm WU in just over 20 min. Thos times should go
> up when windows XP 64 bit goes live at the beginging of next year. I tryed the



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I can't wait for socket 940
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?????...Socket 940 is already here and has been for awhile...I'm getting the Socket 939 with a FX-53 Very soon, I should of had it already but theres been some delay for some reason I don't knw about yet...

> ok I just looked @ my book for my MB and restarted my system and looked in the
> bios it says HYPERTRANSPORT but I thought it said HYPERTHREADING man im a dork
> lmao

It's really Intel's fault.

Hypertransport (HT) was around long before Hyperthreading (Also HT). Intel should have called it something else to avoid confusion. Unless that's what they wanted. :/

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I know that it is already here, but it is still too expensive now for me (especially FX51, FX53), that's the reason why I have to wait for it. And till that time I want to crunch on something.
Actually, I want wait for Athlon 64 made @ 90nm technology. I hope I will sell this 64 after a while and upgrade to 90nm 64 for reasonable price. ;o)))

> I can't wait for socket 940
> ==========
>
> ?????...Socket 940 is already here and has been for awhile...I'm getting the
> Socket 939 with a FX-53 Very soon, I should of had it already but theres been
> some delay for some reason I don't knw about yet...



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> I think AMD has HyperTransport. It is different that hyperthreading.

I think you're right ;-)