A year from now SETI will continue to have big problems like the one is occurring and nothing will be any better. Classic SETI will always be the best!

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A year from now SETI will continue to have big problems like the one is occurring and nothing will be any better. Classic SETI will always be the best!

due to the factor of rose coloured glasses, and Classic "hid" it problems where as bonic is more open in what's going on

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A year from now SETI will continue to have big problems like the one is occurring and nothing will be any better. Classic SETI will always be the best!

I love everyones "opinions" about things. Classic was good for its time. Like everything else in this world, things need upgrading. As it was posted in another thread, I can't remember which one, and too lazy to find it, Classic was doing redundant work. WU's were repeated. It was no longer crunching for much. And, there was little to no money to upgrade and keep the classic stuff running.

I can tell ya, 5 years from now, SETI will still have problems. Wanna know why? Because this world is not perfect. Nothing is perfect. Theres flaws everywhere. Nothing is going to be 100% error free with no problems. Things break down, due to age, use, whatever.

BOINC is the way of the future. It gives you the chance to crunch for many projects, not just SETI. Thats something that I absolutely love about BOINC. SETI works just fine on my computer. I have the same problems as everyone else. But, when SETI runs out of work, I have 3 other projects begging for time, and they get it.

They do ignore our concerns. Thats why Classic Seti is gone! You will say that BOINC is an improvement. Ya RIGHT!!!!! It sure goes down alot for it to be an improvement.

You got 2, maybe 3 paid people who actually work at Berkeley. They don't get paid to answer to every whine and complaint on the boards. There are many many volunteers on here that are more than willing to help out. Ask questions, people will answer. Theres no need to get a bad attitude about anything.

Just remember, you do have the option of other projects. If you only run SETI, then you run the problems of having no work, and sitting there getting pissed off because no one listened to you.

Jeremy

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A year from now SETI will continue to have big problems like the one is occurring and nothing will be any better. Classic SETI will always be the best!

Carefull, your lack of experience is showing.

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Grant
Darwin NT

A year from now SETI will continue to have big problems like the one is occurring and nothing will be any better. Classic SETI will always be the best!

Apparently you do not read up on things. So whats your problem? if you have none then please post your negative comments somewhere else.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

A year from now SETI will continue to have big problems like the one is occurring and nothing will be any better. Classic SETI will always be the best!

Carefull, your lack of experience is showing.

*chuckle*

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Equilibrium

that's right, classic will never die because a small group of people will bang on about the way things were, like your grandad does at christmas, i repeatedly hear "when i was in the war" for what must be the 500,000th time! yes any war is a great tradgedy, but going on about it won't make it better, nor will being prejudice

classic is now officially dead, the end. BOINC is the replacement, end of, you opened the "which is better" can of worms ;)
need i say more?

Carefull, your lack of experience is showing.

Haha. Indeed. I seem to remember a month-long outage on classic when they overwhelmed the Berkeley network. That is longer than any outage we have had since switchinig to BOINC... And there were others.

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P.S. i e-mailed Neil about the sigs.

Hi,

My site has been approaching it's monthly bandwidth limit the last few months, but has never exceeded it - until now.

I am going to try to secure extra bandwidth for the site to make sure it doesn't happen again. This may involve moving web hosts.

Unfortunately, I was out partying until the very early hours on New Years Day and as a result was unaware that the site had been knocked off the Net!

Happy New Year,

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Hi,

My site has been approaching it's monthly bandwidth limit the last few months, but has never exceeded it - until now.

I am going to try to secure extra bandwidth for the site to make sure it doesn't happen again. This may involve moving web hosts.

Unfortunately, I was out partying until the very early hours on New Years Day and as a result was unaware that the site had been knocked off the Net!

Happy New Year,

Hey Neil.

No problem. Everyone has got to party every now and then. :-) Thanks for the hard work you have put into your stats. Keep up the good work!

Jeremy

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Carefull, your lack of experience is showing.

Haha. Indeed. I seem to remember a month-long outage on classic when they overwhelmed the Berkeley network. That is longer than any outage we have had since switchinig to BOINC... And there were others.

Yep, I remember one loooong outage when a (some?) copper robbers destroyed the network.
That time SetiQueue had a big increase in downloads. ;-)

AndyK

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The biggest bug is sitting 10 inch in front of the screen.

A year from now SETI will continue to have big problems like the one is occurring and nothing will be any better. Classic SETI will always be the best!

I love everyones "opinions" about things. Classic was good for its time. Like everything else in this world, things need upgrading. As it was posted in another thread, I can't remember which one, and too lazy to find it, Classic was doing redundant work. WU's were repeated. It was no longer crunching for much. And, there was little to no money to upgrade and keep the classic stuff running.

I can tell ya, 5 years from now, SETI will still have problems. Wanna know why? Because this world is not perfect. Nothing is perfect. Theres flaws everywhere. Nothing is going to be 100% error free with no problems. Things break down, due to age, use, whatever.

BOINC is the way of the future. It gives you the chance to crunch for many projects, not just SETI. Thats something that I absolutely love about BOINC. SETI works just fine on my computer. I have the same problems as everyone else. But, when SETI runs out of work, I have 3 other projects begging for time, and they get it.

They do ignore our concerns. Thats why Classic Seti is gone! You will say that BOINC is an improvement. Ya RIGHT!!!!! It sure goes down alot for it to be an improvement.

You got 2, maybe 3 paid people who actually work at Berkeley. They don't get paid to answer to every whine and complaint on the boards. There are many many volunteers on here that are more than willing to help out. Ask questions, people will answer. Theres no need to get a bad attitude about anything.

Just remember, you do have the option of other projects. If you only run SETI, then you run the problems of having no work, and sitting there getting pissed off because no one listened to you.

Jeremy

1. well with old seti i did not get the 40% client errors all the time?
2. what if i'm not interested in crunching the other crap that is offered.
3. i have an opinion thats mine and mine alone.
4. i don't need some self-rightious dolt telling me that i don't have a right to it.
5. this is still a free country and if you don't like that go some place else. 6. there are places on this planet that really like the way people like you think.
7. your not worth anymore thought on the subject.

Any word on when the data base will be back up?

I've got enough work left to keep me going until morning or so, then I guess my CPU gets to cool off and relax a bit, at least until more work is available :)

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D.

1. well with old seti i did not get the 40% client errors all the time?
2. what if i'm not interested in crunching the other crap that is offered.
3. i have an opinion thats mine and mine alone.
4. i don't need some self-rightious dolt telling me that i don't have a right to it.
5. this is still a free country and if you don't like that go some place else. 6. there are places on this planet that really like the way people like you think.
7. your not worth anymore thought on the subject.

1. its called NEW software. They are constantly updating and fixing
2. THEN DON"T. with your attitude I would not even want you to crunch for ANYTHING.
3. Your opinion is not welcome in this thread if you are going to protray that your are right about everything. You have a choice. You do not like what you read, then don't read it and don't post anything. When you post you must expect others' "opinions"
4. No one is "telling" you to do anything. Its advice. tyake it or leave it.
5. Same to you buddy.
6. And there are places for you too. Although I am not going to say where.
7. You're not worth anymore time. Unless you have a problem with your software, please do not post your TROLLING on this thread. Start your own thread for that crap.

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

1. well with old seti i did not get the 40% client errors all the time?

Seti can't help it if you have faulty hardware and are causing client errors. Just means you were sending back bad results on Classic. Now that it's validated before you get credit to stop cheating and other issues, it shows you need to keep your machines in better tune.

2. what if i'm not interested in crunching the other crap that is offered.

OK, then when SETI is down or runs out of work, you machine is idle. Saves you some electicity I guess. I can see comfort in a single project, but I can not see the logic.

3. i have an opinion thats mine and mine alone.
4. i don't need some self-rightious dolt telling me that i don't have a right to it.

True, and so does everyone else, including the people funding the project.

5. this is still a free country and if you don't like that go some place else.

And what if I don't want to go anyplace else? My rights are just the same as your rights to be where I want to be, when.

6. there are places on this planet that really like the way people like you think.
7. your not worth anymore thought on the subject.

I usually do not go off on a person (I have on occassion), but this list was just something to egg others on, purposely, and you pushed a few buttons. You have a choice, crunch or don't crunch. You do NOT have a choice on the product. The product is there, if you do not like it, join the development team and try and fix it, or deal with it, or leave. You have choices, and it's better to help than just sit back and bitch.

Dereka, Derf

Welcome to Seti Boinc

There are still many problems with "Seti," many were "Hidden" in Classic. So "Good Ol Days Aside," if you have a specific question ask. Then those that have reasonable answers will help point to the Solution. Otherwise take a look at this thread Crying Classic Users (SETI@home orphans) as it provides an example of those that do not care to help...

Matt L provided information the Tech News that discussed Database Issues that are affecting everyone now... I do have one machine in front of me that has Issues getting new work. I have others that I can touch that just got "lucky" and replenished the Queue... I have others that I will not touch until in the morning that may need a "push."

In My signature is a link to BOINC WIKI that is the owners manual that Seti BOINC forgot to enclose with the Seti BOINC Client.

In the Mean Time, Relax and Read a bit... You will find that there are many that are willing to help and some that should not be here...

R/

Al

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Dereka, Derf

Welcome to Seti Boinc

Thank You for the Welcome. These Boinc boards and Crunchers so far have been more then helpful.

Looking forward to the Data Base being back to full capacity soon, and to crunching (hopefully) for years to come. :0)

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D.

1. well with old seti i did not get the 40% client errors all the time?

Thats cause you didn't notice it, cause the old classic cruncher didn't report that now did it?

2. what if i'm not interested in crunching the other crap that is offered.

Thats your own thing. Who cares what you crunch. I don't, neither do the other people that are reading this. You want to just crunch SETI, so be it, suck it up and deal with the problems they have.

3. i have an opinion thats mine and mine alone.

Thats what I said, no need to repeat everything here.

4. i don't need some self-rightious dolt telling me that i don't have a right to it.

Whats a dolt? And I am very far from self-rightious. I do my own thing, I simply stated facts. You don't like it, leave. I'm entitled to my own opinions as well.

5. this is still a free country and if you don't like that go some place else.

Hate to say it, but I also live in the free country, and I like it very much thank you. Since all you know how to be is negative, why don't you go find a place to go???

6. there are places on this planet that really like the way people like you think.

Yeah, where are they? I'd love to go visit them. :-)

7. your not worth anymore thought on the subject.

And your not worth the dirt that I walk on, so whats your point? How about posting something worth reading, instead of being a TROLL, and trying to instigate an arguement. When you come up with something thoughtful, and worthwhile of reading, maybe then someone will read it. You just became the #1 person of 2006 on my ignore list. Have a nice day!

Jeremy

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Dereka, Derf

Welcome to Seti Boinc

Thank You for the Welcome. These Boinc boards and Crunchers so far have been more then helpful.

Looking forward to the Data Base being back to full capacity soon, and to crunching (hopefully) for years to come. :0)

Welcome to SETI BOINC as well Dereka. Feel free to ask any and all questions here. THere are many many people here who love to help others out, so that they may enjoy the crunching as they do. Hope you had a wonderful new years, and I wish you the best in 2006.

Jeremy

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1. well with old seti i did not get the 40% client errors all the time?

Thats cause you didn't notice it, cause the old classic cruncher didn't report that now did it?

It has been stated that because the drives are at close to capacity and other issues and a large batch of "bad workunits" were issued. I have a few of those also... So at this point "We are Free to express "issues" in the heat of any battle!" When those Individuals are allowed to get them off his or her chest... Then Positive things can start to happen, that is how the majority respond...

I "personally" am really starting to understand this it the key to the Success of Seti BOINC and Classic. Yes we all understand that other BOINC Projects may not appeal to everyone. Those coming in should take a moment to look to see if there is something that could have appeal as a backup project. This helps to smooth the outages. No I am not a Cheerleader, I am one of those "so call computer professionals" and pragmatic... Seti IS My First Choice, "they" are out there!

R/

Al

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