I've just downloaded Boinc for my Seti searching, but have the incredibly embarassing problem of not being able to figure out the Proxy Configuration things...

Namely, for the HTTP proxy, how do I figure out the "Server" and the "Port" number to use. It was years ago that I needed to set up my computer for internet and I just have no clue... *bows head in shame and pleas for help*

{Using Windows XP}

THe developers have written a new boinc version 5.2.10 to address this issue. This is a direct download and should start immediately, please install right over the old version.

does this help?
\\
tony

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What he said.

Or:

BOINC Manager is designed to control server farms, and you need to tell it that you want to control the computer on which it is actually running. This essential undocumented step goes as follows...

Start BOINC manager and (menu) File..Select Computer, then enter "localhost" without the quotes (the password is automatic - dont alter it). Press OK.
That likely will dump you straight into the attach project wizard which then should work flawlessly.

Or: you could try reboot your machine.

Or: you could edit the registry. I'm not sure what to edit, but you could try editing something, and if you edited enough things, the law of averages would dictate that eventually that might help.

Your move.

Start BOINC manager and (menu) File..Select Computer, then enter "localhost" without the quotes (the password is automatic - dont alter it). Press OK.
That likely will dump you straight into the attach project wizard which then should work flawlessly.

This worked! Thanx a tonne!!! :)
{Now to figure out how to use it... Ah, the fun! :D)

Now that this is fixed, mmciastro, would u recommend the download of version 5.2.10? Or {given I'm a DIAL-UP user}, would it be sufficient to just wait until it's required to download the newest version?

Dude, 10MB over dial-up, I'd do it right now (not). No, seriously, when you have the 45 minutes to spare, download it.

When you're ready to upgrade, suspend BOINC, terminate it, ensure that CPU usage goes to zero. If it doesn't, reboot. BOINC should be suspended. Terminate BOINC. Copy the BOINC folder, and paste it (should paste as "Copy of BOINC").

Then run the upgrade EXE. Then launch BOINC. IT should launch without an issue. However, if there is an issue (although I've not seen something like this prior to like 4 or 5 versions ago), uninstall BOINC, erase the BOINC folder. Reinstall BOINC upgraded version (but do not let it run). COPY over the top of that installation: the PROJECTS folder, and ALL XML files out of the COPY OF BOINC folder. Then launch BOINC.

Like I said, it should run without a hitch either way, BUT IF IT DOESN'T (you know what to do)...

FYI: ALWAYS have a backup copy for the express purposes I've indicated. Once BOINC has proven that its running o.k. (say after 10 or 15%), you can delete COPY OF BOINC.

Capiche?

Start BOINC manager and (menu) File..Select Computer, then enter "localhost" without the quotes (the password is automatic - dont alter it). Press OK.
That likely will dump you straight into the attach project wizard which then should work flawlessly.

This worked! Thanx a tonne!!! :)
{Now to figure out how to use it... Ah, the fun! :D)

Now that this is fixed, mmciastro, would u recommend the download of version 5.2.10? Or {given I'm a DIAL-UP user}, would it be sufficient to just wait until it's required to download the newest version?

it'll take 20 minutes or so via dial up. If you start getting "Connection failed" prompts or experience any connection issues then I would upgrade. I think if you stick with it for a day or so, you'll see a new NEW version appear and then have to download the new NEW version. If it's working, let it work.

Now that this is fixed, mmciastro, would u recommend the download of version 5.2.10? Or {given I'm a DIAL-UP user}, would it be sufficient to just wait until it's required to download the newest version?

The next version is already out 5.2.11 there may even be more, it's up to you.

The next version is already out 5.2.11 there may even be more, it's up to you.

*hehe* Ta.

I think I'll stick with the older version for now {5.2.8}. Wait for the old file to finish working {about another hour}, then figure out how to use this thing!

Shall follow ur back-up tips in the future, Ray.

Thanks for all your help.

BOINC is cool. It is so intuitive its mind boggling. In fact, once the two of you get to know each other, I'm sure you'll get along just fine. In fact, mark my words, you'll begin to wonder just how in the world you got on without BOINC for as long as you did.

That being said, it does have its little quirks, the biggest one being it wants to be connected to the internet at all times. So if there's any chance the internet will not be available (for whatever reason), disable BOINC network access, e.g., maintenance work or something, modem will be off, whatever. It is insufficient to suspend BOINC. Even in suspended mode BOINC manager and client daemon are still communicating (the project task merely having been put nappy-time by the daemon).

Given sufficient time without a network connection (provided network access isn't suspended), it could ultimately lock your entire system (necessitating an ungraceful shutdown).

Don't temp fate w/out a COPY of BOINC backup. You might upgrade 5 times flawlessly, and on the 6th time there's a programming oopsie and you'll need to revert to a previous version. W/Out COPY of BOINC, you'll lose all the projects and current state of affairs XMLs. Because to revert to a previous version it is absolutely imperative to uninstall BOINC completely. One can always upgrade on top of an existing BOINC installation. But if something goes kaflooie, nobody wants to rely on the possiblility of corrupt XMLS being flies in the oinkment.

Finally, COPY of BOINC is only of any value whatsoever until the first results update. Once BOINC has updated a single WU results file, COPY of BOINC is worthless.

I had the same problem, Update your version to version 5.2.11 and all will be well.

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not to be an a$$ but you guys did not answer the question and I'm having the same problem i use no proxies but it keeps asking. and i just downloaded my copy today, so its up to date.

Hi, what question did I miss? I've been on many boards and many threads in those boards. I apologized if I missed you.

how may I help you?

tony

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I see you edited your previous post, do you still need help?

BOINC is cool. It is so intuitive its mind boggling. In fact, once the two of you get to know each other, I'm sure you'll get along just fine. In fact, mark my words, you'll begin to wonder just how in the world you got on without BOINC for as long as you did.

That being said, it does have its little quirks, the biggest one being it wants to be connected to the internet at all times. So if there's any chance the internet will not be available (for whatever reason), disable BOINC network access, e.g., maintenance work or something, modem will be off, whatever. It is insufficient to suspend BOINC. Even in suspended mode BOINC manager and client daemon are still communicating (the project task merely having been put nappy-time by the daemon).

Given sufficient time without a network connection (provided network access isn't suspended), it could ultimately lock your entire system (necessitating an ungraceful shutdown).

Don't temp fate w/out a COPY of BOINC backup. You might upgrade 5 times flawlessly, and on the 6th time there's a programming oopsie and you'll need to revert to a previous version. W/Out COPY of BOINC, you'll lose all the projects and current state of affairs XMLs. Because to revert to a previous version it is absolutely imperative to uninstall BOINC completely. One can always upgrade on top of an existing BOINC installation. But if something goes kaflooie, nobody wants to rely on the possiblility of corrupt XMLS being flies in the oinkment.

Finally, COPY of BOINC is only of any value whatsoever until the first results update. Once BOINC has updated a single WU results file, COPY of BOINC is worthless.

Sorry Sir, Bionic is not cool yet. It is a great proof of concept, but the implication is rather poor sofar. It might get there in a year or two but at this time it is a very buggy confussing program. I use my computer for other things to and when this application get things sorted out I will try it again in a year or two.

I am deleting Bionic because it is so confusing to run and most of time my computer defers gettting data for hours. If I am not crunching numbers I will be shutting my computer off. I will now return to the classic seti until December 15. Then I will stop. I have done in the range of 6500 units in the last two years as I got a biggier better computer. Sorry to see a good thing fall apart. I hope in a year or two Bionic gets sorted out and running.

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All about BOINC: BOINC-Wiki (by Paul D. Buck)

Sorry Sir, Bionic is not cool yet. It is a great proof of concept, but the implication is rather poor sofar. It might get there in a year or two but at this time it is a very buggy confussing program. I use my computer for other things to and when this application get things sorted out I will try it again in a year or two.

I am deleting Bionic because it is so confusing to run and most of time my computer defers gettting data for hours. If I am not crunching numbers I will be shutting my computer off. I will now return to the classic seti until December 15. Then I will stop. I have done in the range of 6500 units in the last two years as I got a biggier better computer. Sorry to see a good thing fall apart. I hope in a year or two Bionic gets sorted out and running.

First of all, Roger, I see no Sirs around - just friens of Seti.
Second, it's called B O I N C, not Bionic.
Third: You should not append your question/comment to a thread covering an other matter, but open a new thread.

But now to your comment: I see that you have several machines connected and one of your machines has downloaded 5 WUs just this very day. Thus I can't see the problem you're having.

If you could describe us a bit more clearly the issues you are suffering, there might be help. That's what these Q&A are for...

:-)= Greybeard

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All about BOINC: BOINC-Wiki (by Paul D. Buck)

BOINC is cool. It is so intuitive its mind boggling. In fact, once the two of you get to know each other, I'm sure you'll get along just fine. In fact, mark my words, you'll begin to wonder just how in the world you got on without BOINC for as long as you did.

That being said, it does have its little quirks, the biggest one being it wants to be connected to the internet at all times. So if there's any chance the internet will not be available (for whatever reason), disable BOINC network access, e.g., maintenance work or something, modem will be off, whatever. It is insufficient to suspend BOINC. Even in suspended mode BOINC manager and client daemon are still communicating (the project task merely having been put nappy-time by the daemon).

Given sufficient time without a network connection (provided network access isn't suspended), it could ultimately lock your entire system (necessitating an ungraceful shutdown).

Don't temp fate w/out a COPY of BOINC backup. You might upgrade 5 times flawlessly, and on the 6th time there's a programming oopsie and you'll need to revert to a previous version. W/Out COPY of BOINC, you'll lose all the projects and current state of affairs XMLs. Because to revert to a previous version it is absolutely imperative to uninstall BOINC completely. One can always upgrade on top of an existing BOINC installation. But if something goes kaflooie, nobody wants to rely on the possiblility of corrupt XMLS being flies in the oinkment.

Finally, COPY of BOINC is only of any value whatsoever until the first results update. Once BOINC has updated a single WU results file, COPY of BOINC is worthless.

And with all of the foregoing, you think BOINC is "cool" and "intuitive"? It sounds more like "buggy" and "nondocumented" to me. Compared to BOINC, Microsoft writes "flawless" software.

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So OK, how do I disconnect from the Internet without messing up

BOINC is cool. It is so intuitive its mind boggling. In fact, once the two of you get to know each other, I'm sure you'll get along just fine. In fact, mark my words, you'll begin to wonder just how in the world you got on without BOINC for as long as you did.

That being said, it does have its little quirks, the biggest one being it wants to be connected to the internet at all times. So if there's any chance the internet will not be available (for whatever reason), disable BOINC network access, e.g., maintenance work or something, modem will be off, whatever. It is insufficient to suspend BOINC. Even in suspended mode BOINC manager and client daemon are still communicating (the project task merely having been put nappy-time by the daemon).

Given sufficient time without a network connection (provided network access isn't suspended), it could ultimately lock your entire system (necessitating an ungraceful shutdown).

Don't temp fate w/out a COPY of BOINC backup. You might upgrade 5 times flawlessly, and on the 6th time there's a programming oopsie and you'll need to revert to a previous version. W/Out COPY of BOINC, you'll lose all the projects and current state of affairs XMLs. Because to revert to a previous version it is absolutely imperative to uninstall BOINC completely. One can always upgrade on top of an existing BOINC installation. But if something goes kaflooie, nobody wants to rely on the possiblility of corrupt XMLS being flies in the oinkment.

Finally, COPY of BOINC is only of any value whatsoever until the first results update. Once BOINC has updated a single WU results file, COPY of BOINC is worthless.

And with all of the foregoing, you think BOINC is "cool" and "intuitive"? It sounds more like "buggy" and "nondocumented" to me. Compared to BOINC, Microsoft writes "flawless" software.

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Proxy Problemers

You should not need to enter any proxy info.

There should be no reason why you should require entering proxy information in order to have your BOINC program make the connection. If you are connected to the Internet when you start the BOINC application, then the next piece of information for which you should be prompted (if you have just installed your program) is your Seti@Home sign-on data. If you are beyond installation, then BOINC is experiencing problems making the Internet connection.

In any case...

Proxy Solution

REBOOT your computer (unfortunately).

Hope that helps.

Joseph Dougherty
Los Angeles, California

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I also had the problem of BOINC asking me for the Proxy Configuration when I need none. A fix was posted in release 5.2.12 that gets by that problem (something to do with the local firewall). I expect you are using the 5.2.8 version on BOINC. Download the new one and the Proxy Configuration question should go away.

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