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Message 163690 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 1:09:32 UTC

I was given a workunit with CPDN. I worked on it for over 200 hours. This unit was the extra workunit given from boinc error. I was receiving no credit for it. Why? Becuse someone was already sending back work from this unit. I lost 200 hours of time and got nothing for it. Was my data wrong? No. Was I told why I was given no credit? No. Did I give actual work to the project? Yes. The work unit wasn't going to expire until next year. It has been a week since I have been credit in anything. Are the credits in themselves important. It's the principal. Someone does work for a project they should be given credit. If you don't like what they are giving, you tell them why and reduce their load, but still give them credit for actually doing any work.
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Message 163698 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 1:28:14 UTC
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An interesting thought, but perhaps it would be better aimed at the CPDN board? Those work units are very different than Seti's and that problem really doesn't arise here.
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Message 163704 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 1:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 163698.  

An interesting thought, but perhaps it would be better aimed at the CPDN board? Those work units are very different than Seti's and that problem really doesn't arise here.

Boinc caused the problems and boinc is how point are given. Boinc is being developed where setiathome is. Boinc is where they don't give credit for doing lots of work just becuase something doesn't go quite right.
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Message 163706 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 1:50:46 UTC - in response to Message 163704.  

An interesting thought, but perhaps it would be better aimed at the CPDN board? Those work units are very different than Seti's and that problem really doesn't arise here.

Boinc caused the problems and boinc is how point are given. Boinc is being developed where setiathome is. Boinc is where they don't give credit for doing lots of work just becuase something doesn't go quite right.


Then why not take it to the BOINC message boards?

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/

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Message 163711 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 1:56:09 UTC - in response to Message 163706.  

An interesting thought, but perhaps it would be better aimed at the CPDN board? Those work units are very different than Seti's and that problem really doesn't arise here.

Boinc caused the problems and boinc is how point are given. Boinc is being developed where setiathome is. Boinc is where they don't give credit for doing lots of work just becuase something doesn't go quite right.


Then why not take it to the BOINC message boards?

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/

This is not a Seti@Home problem.

I really don't like registering all over the place and setiathome hasn't given credit for a long time still. The backlog is supposed to be fixed by now.
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Message 163713 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 2:00:54 UTC - in response to Message 163711.  
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I really don't like registering all over the place and setiathome hasn't given credit for a long time still. The backlog is supposed to be fixed by now.


hmm, have you read the technical news lately?

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Message 163722 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 2:25:12 UTC - in response to Message 163706.  

An interesting thought, but perhaps it would be better aimed at the CPDN board? Those work units are very different than Seti's and that problem really doesn't arise here.

Boinc caused the problems and boinc is how point are given. Boinc is being developed where setiathome is. Boinc is where they don't give credit for doing lots of work just becuase something doesn't go quite right.


Then why not take it to the BOINC message boards?

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/

This is not a Seti@Home problem.

Because he knows he can get away with ranting about nothing, here.... >:-)
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Message 163723 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 2:26:55 UTC

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....

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Message 163724 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 2:30:09 UTC - in response to Message 163723.  

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....

Yeah... what's the deal?! Everybody told me that running boinc/seti would make me a real chick magnet.
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Message 163728 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 2:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 163723.  

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....


To paraphrase another emininent Vulcan:

Some people don't argue for a reason, they just argue... :-)

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Message 163737 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 3:13:45 UTC - in response to Message 163724.  

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....

Yeah... what's the deal?! Everybody told me that running boinc/seti would make me a real chick magnet.

Yeah! Hasn't worked for me yet either.... >;-) (-;<

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Message 163738 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 3:14:37 UTC - in response to Message 163728.  

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....


To paraphrase another emininent Vulcan:

Some people don't argue for a reason, they just argue... :-)

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Oh so true.... >:-) (-:<

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Message 163742 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 3:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 163737.  

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....

Yeah... what's the deal?! Everybody told me that running boinc/seti would make me a real chick magnet.

Yeah! Hasn't worked for me yet either.... >;-) (-;<



Worked for me. I've been BOINC-ing lots of chicks!
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Message 163752 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 3:38:34 UTC - in response to Message 163742.  

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....

Yeah... what's the deal?! Everybody told me that running boinc/seti would make me a real chick magnet.

Yeah! Hasn't worked for me yet either.... >;-) (-;<



Worked for me. I've been BOINC-ing lots of chicks!

Well, I must be doing something wrong, since BOINC is doing something right.... >;-) (-;<

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Message 163759 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 3:41:54 UTC - in response to Message 163752.  

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....

Yeah... what's the deal?! Everybody told me that running boinc/seti would make me a real chick magnet.

Yeah! Hasn't worked for me yet either.... >;-) (-;<



Worked for me. I've been BOINC-ing lots of chicks!

Well, I must be doing something wrong, since BOINC is doing something right.... >;-) (-;<


Yeah, I go up to a girl and tell her that she reminds me of LHC@home. When she asks how, I say it's because I want to supercollide her.
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Message 163760 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 3:42:56 UTC - in response to Message 163724.  

Yeah, and you thought that meant girls, poultry face (smile).

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....

Yeah... what's the deal?! Everybody told me that running boinc/seti would make me a real chick magnet.


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Message 163799 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 4:41:58 UTC - in response to Message 163760.  
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Yeah, and you thought that meant girls, poultry face (smile).

Hey, this is Nebraska, where men are men and most barnyard entities look pretty in lipstick. Hmmmm... does a chicken have lips?!?

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Message 163835 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 7:02:29 UTC - in response to Message 163704.  
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Boinc caused the problems and boinc is how point are given. Boinc is being developed where setiathome is. Boinc is where they don't give credit for doing lots of work just becuase something doesn't go quite right.

BOINC isn't maintaining CPDN's database... Neither is S@H...

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Message 163838 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 7:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 163724.  

Some people are just in this for the WRONG reason....

Yeah... what's the deal?! Everybody told me that running boinc/seti would make me a real chick magnet.


Try dissing the avatar, Scarecrow...

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Message 163922 - Posted: 6 Sep 2005, 15:08:19 UTC - in response to Message 163690.  

I was given a workunit with CPDN. I worked on it for over 200 hours. This unit was the extra workunit given from boinc error. I was receiving no credit for it. Why? Becuse someone was already sending back work from this unit. I lost 200 hours of time and got nothing for it. Was my data wrong? No. Was I told why I was given no credit? No. Did I give actual work to the project? Yes. The work unit wasn't going to expire until next year. It has been a week since I have been credit in anything. Are the credits in themselves important. It's the principal. Someone does work for a project they should be given credit. If you don't like what they are giving, you tell them why and reduce their load, but still give them credit for actually doing any work.

I am not sure I understand this wholely, but, CPDN work units are long, which is why if you return "trickles" you should be getting intermediate credit. Since there are 72 trickles you should be getting a grant of credit each 2% completed (well 1 point something). Once done, you would be granted the full credit amount.

CPDN does not issue the work unit more than once unless people have failed to process it to completion, or because it is "interesting" and they want to see if the same answer comes up.

WIthout more information it is hard to guess what did or did not happen, but the others here are correct, this is a problem more for the CPDN boards, or if a BOINC problem in truth, the new BOINC boards. Since you have an account on the project, you do not need to "sign up" again, just to log into the CPDN boards for the BOINC users.
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