Well their dream of collaborating with NASA came thru. They will be using data from the Kepler telescope after its launch next year. It's why PQ won't have a booth at SpaceFest; they plan to be at the Kepler launch at that time.

Thanks Misfit, I just knew they where waiting for a project to launch into space! I can hold my breath a bit longer till Kepler launch in june 2008!!! Hope we get the Beta test going then and be one of the lucky ones!

The Kepler launch is Feb 2009, same time frame as SpaceFest.
http://kepler.nasa.gov/about/news.html

Well their dream of collaborating with NASA came thru. They will be using data from the Kepler telescope after its launch next year. It's why PQ won't have a booth at SpaceFest; they plan to be at the Kepler launch at that time.

I applied for the NASA Kepler Science Team and included PlanetQuest as the educational component of the proposal. I proposed to find planets in the multiple star systems that Kepler observes and won the proposal.

So, there will be NASA Kepler spacecraft data in the PlanetQuest Collaboratory (we'll divvy it up evenly) to look for planets in. What is amazing about these data is that the precision will be 100 times anything achieved on Earth -- that is, the detection of Earth-sized planets around Sunlike stars will be possible.

Thanks again and best regards, Laurance Doyle

When can we expect a Alpha/Beta release to crunch on?

By the looks of it never.

I wrote:
Mark Peters wrote:

When is the project joinable for members? Still in the Alpha testing stage or is the a Beta release comming up? I would be glad to join and help crunching data packages for you.

Kind regards,

Mark Peters


This is the reply from Laurance himself:

Much thanks! We're still working on the alpha -- testing the false alarm rate algorithms. Just the opposite of firemen -- we can miss fires, but we can't afford any false alarm planet announcements.

All the best, Laurance

Looks to me the project can not affort to miss or missfire with any object in space. Try to solve this with a reliable algoritme is hard job. They do try to have more data ready. If the project comes from the ground, this will have a huge impact on the crunchers and will become one of the biggest projects in the world. I still have my hopes up for them.

I applied for the NASA Kepler Science Team and included PlanetQuest as the educational component of the proposal. I proposed to find planets in the multiple star systems that Kepler observes and won the proposal.

So, there will be NASA Kepler spacecraft data in the PlanetQuest Collaboratory (we'll divvy it up evenly) to look for planets in. What is amazing about these data is that the precision will be 100 times anything achieved on Earth -- that is, the detection of Earth-sized planets around Sunlike stars will be possible.

Thanks again and best regards, Laurance Doyle

When can we expect a Alpha/Beta release to crunch on?

By the looks of it never.

Hello, i have 1 question. Tell me please how to delete one of my computer from computers list?

You have to wait until all the task have been purged from your account for the computer in question. Click the computer ID and you will then be given the option to delete the system at the bottom of the Computer summary page.

:-) That's not much to go on. The word "annoying" is usually a perception, and since everyone has their own perspective, "annoying" is considered a subjective term.


What is the screen saver doing that has made it become "annoying"?

The temperature in the bios is around 90 degrees
In the Asus AI Suite 1.01.19 is at 99 degrees.
In Everest Ultimate Edition 4.20.1170 it's saying 99 degrees (210 F) and 103 for the first core and 104! for the second core.
I can not touch the back of my motherboard without unscrewing and unplug everything. When i touch the heatsink it's hot but i can leave my fingers on it without getting burned since there is not a lot of contact... i can touch only the edge of the metal plates. The rest is protected by a plastic cover.

For the swap file, the initial one is 2046 Mo and the maximum size is 4092.
I have 2 gig of ram.

I stoped the Boinc and now the cpu is at 63-64 degrees... CPU is used between 0 and 5% without BOINC running.

Your CPU is far to hot even without Boinc running. Do not run Boinc again until you find out why. Check the mounting of the cpu heatsink and fan assy. Something is not right. If you have a friend who has experience with installing heatsink and fan assy's then have him double check your work. Get a second opinion from someone.

Not for a while yet. If testing goes a bit quick, perhaps in 2 to 3 months, but don't hold me down on that.

This is a message I recieved from the BOINC Alpha mailing list:

BOINC 5.10.45 is now the new stable release for all platforms.



This release is a bug fix release which includes fixes for better proxy support through the use of the <force_auth> configuration option in cc_config.xml which is defined here:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientMessages



This release also contains fixes for startup/shutdown issues when running on Windows Vista.



Enjoy.

You can download this new version here

Doesn't work. Still blocking the BOINC at the startup...

The startup/shutdown issues that 5.10.45 fixed were in relation to file corruption/workunit corruption, not being blocked by UAC/Defender. That fix still isn't expected until BOINC v6.x.

I had a similar problem today. Also I had a similar problem several days ago. I just restarted BOINC and it appeared to take off where it left off. Here's the section of my message log from today where the error popped up:
3/14/2008 9:54:13 AM|SETI@home|Reason: Unrecoverable error for result 02ap07aa.18840.18477.6.7.204_1 (The system cannot find the path specified. (0x3) - exit code 3 (0x3))

Here's the error from yesterday:
3/13/2008 3:41:46 PM|SETI@home|Reason: Unrecoverable error for result 13fe08ac.6464.12751.5.7.32_4 ( - exit code -6 (0xfffffffa))

Is this a problem with my system or am I getting some bad packets to crunch or what? I reported 3 work units today after I restarted BOINC. I did notice that I initially got an error trying to report that BOINC couldn't find an HTTP header.

Here's the message showing where I started the manual report and finished:
3/14/2008 10:08:36 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
3/14/2008 10:08:36 AM|SETI@home|Reporting 3 tasks
3/14/2008 10:08:40 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP file not found
3/14/2008 10:08:40 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
3/14/2008 10:08:40 AM|SETI@home|Reporting 3 tasks
3/14/2008 10:08:45 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 601]


Anyone see anything "strange"??

Please see the forum message I made, problem duo a problem with the WU's on that date. Read the text from Fred and rq2000.

Kind regards,

Mark Peters

This is not the same problem - that affected only some of the 13fe08ac WU's; this is a 13fe08ad which were not processed by the rogue splitter.

F.

I drew another 13fe08ac unit as well as 13fe08ad the ac ended after 1 min 7 sec with computation error the other (13fe08ad) is processing now 1:02:58 and at 15.303% so I'll let you know how it turns out...

Maybe worth of making a ticket out of this.

Trac tickets are only for the BOINC developers. The workunit issue is a SETI@Home problem and the SETI Admins have been made aware of the problem. Unfortunately there's not much that can be done once the workunits are sent out to hosts. They simply have to work their way through the system.

Please report the task first. Open BOINC Manager, Advanced view, Projects tab, select Seti, click Update.

Else there's nothing we can do, as we can't see in your BOINC Manager.
Unless you give the actual messages from BOINC Manager's messages tab/window. You can copy them (by selection or all) and paste them here.

Hmmm...Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9] This is the pc I use at work, strange, it's a single CPU but BOINC said 2 CPU onboard...

A Pentium 4 3GHz CPU does Hyper-Threading, meaning that it has one physical CPU and a virtual one. You can read here in wikipedia more about what it does. BOINC will recognize the 'extra' CPU as long as it is enabled in the BIOS and supported by the operating system.

Thanks!
Hyper-threading has to be the cause of it, because I reported 2 WU packages in to day, without problems now. Anybody using Hyper-threading, and have the same experience?

Don't go thinking that it has to be user error all the time here is a link for everyone to look at

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=234798380

everyone that proccessed this WU got the same results in different times I fail to think that this many people could have Hyper-Threading on all of their machines, I know I don't! Just something to ponder. I was getting ready to send this link to you anyway Ageless to see what you thought when I ran across this post. Maybe someone needs to look into this, not really sure why one speific work unit is causing access failures, doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

That one of the 13fe08ac WU's that were produced with a bad header by a rogue splitter. More discussion in Number Crunching here

F.

My Windows Vista is blocking the BOINC at the startup. I upgrade my BOINC to 5.10.30, now you have to manually start it your self.
How can make my Vista start the BOINC at the startup without blocking it?

Hmmm...Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9] This is the pc I use at work, strange, it's a single CPU but BOINC said 2 CPU onboard...

A Pentium 4 3GHz CPU does Hyper-Threading, meaning that it has one physical CPU and a virtual one. You can read here in wikipedia more about what it does. BOINC will recognize the 'extra' CPU as long as it is enabled in the BIOS and supported by the operating system.

Where did you install BOINC to?
The default directory c:\\program files\\BOINC ?
Or did you install it to C:\\BOINC ?

If to the default directory, could you at least try to uninstall BOINC from there, then install to c:\\boinc and try again?
(You can uninstall BOINC, move the remaining BOINC directory with all sub-directories to C:\\BOINC, then reinstall BOINC to that new directory. This way you won't lose any new work you downloaded or the projects you're attached to).

By default Vista doesn't allow programs to write to directories in c:\\program files\\ .. since BOINC is writing to disk a lot of the time, this could give trouble.

This is correct! I installed it on: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC. Strange thing is for now only big WU are send in correctly e.t.a 3 hour of work at 72 creditpoints, the small ones, I saw one time a WU request for only 968 sec. of work, it crashed directly after 1.14%!

You are probably hitting the conflict between Boinc and VISTA UAC. Vista does not allow writes to the C:\\Program files\\ directory tree unless elevated priveleges are granted first. This does not happen with BOINC V5, so, BOINC fails every write to its data. The applications fail every write to their data...

Please:
Uninstall BOINC.
Move the ENTIRE BOINC directory tree from c:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\ to c:\\BOINC\\
Install the same or newer version of BOINC to c:\\BOINC\\

This is required to get BOINC V5 5o work on Vista. V6 splits the BOINC core executables and dlls from the project executables and all of the data. However, V6 is not even in Alpha testing yet.

Thx for the tip. I have 2 more WU to crunch e.t.a. today, so I'll try to move them to a higher Subdir. Does this count for my XP pc too? At work we use XP prof. SP2. I think we have a simular problem there. 3 out of 4 WU was a fail from station at work. Going to try 5.10.45.

No. XP has to have a different problem. Look for overheating (when was the last time the dust bunnies were cleaned out), conflicts with the Anti Virus scanner, overclocking (not likely in a work environment), bad RAM, and a failing Hard Disk.

Where did you install BOINC to?
The default directory c:\\program files\\BOINC ?
Or did you install it to C:\\BOINC ?

If to the default directory, could you at least try to uninstall BOINC from there, then install to c:\\boinc and try again?
(You can uninstall BOINC, move the remaining BOINC directory with all sub-directories to C:\\BOINC, then reinstall BOINC to that new directory. This way you won't lose any new work you downloaded or the projects you're attached to).

By default Vista doesn't allow programs to write to directories in c:\\program files\\ .. since BOINC is writing to disk a lot of the time, this could give trouble.

This is correct! I installed it on: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC. Strange thing is for now only big WU are send in correctly e.t.a 3 hour of work at 72 creditpoints, the small ones, I saw one time a WU request for only 968 sec. of work, it crashed directly after 1.14%!

You are probably hitting the conflict between Boinc and VISTA UAC. Vista does not allow writes to the C:\\Program files\\ directory tree unless elevated priveleges are granted first. This does not happen with BOINC V5, so, BOINC fails every write to its data. The applications fail every write to their data...

Please:
Uninstall BOINC.
Move the ENTIRE BOINC directory tree from c:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\ to c:\\BOINC\\
Install the same or newer version of BOINC to c:\\BOINC\\

This is required to get BOINC V5 5o work on Vista. V6 splits the BOINC core executables and dlls from the project executables and all of the data. However, V6 is not even in Alpha testing yet.

Where did you install BOINC to?
The default directory c:\\program files\\BOINC ?
Or did you install it to C:\\BOINC ?

If to the default directory, could you at least try to uninstall BOINC from there, then install to c:\\boinc and try again?
(You can uninstall BOINC, move the remaining BOINC directory with all sub-directories to C:\\BOINC, then reinstall BOINC to that new directory. This way you won't lose any new work you downloaded or the projects you're attached to).

By default Vista doesn't allow programs to write to directories in c:\\program files\\ .. since BOINC is writing to disk a lot of the time, this could give trouble.

I'm keeping all avenues open. Perhaps that in the future someone comes up with a way to spend them.

Maybe we can recredit/buy T-shirts whith our stats on it or other stuff..:))

The problem with that suggestion is that it costs real money to manufacture (and presumably you want some SETI logo on it) and print the T-shirts. The credits have no real value, so that would require the project to buy the T-shirts to be given out (essentially) for free. The project has no government funding and relies on private donations to keep running, so extra expenses like that would be out of the question.

Other projects that have funding may be able to do something like that.