Posts by Siran d'Vel'nahr

41) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048826)
Posted 11 May 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings,

My stats are stagnant. They haven't moved for at least 2 weeks now:
State: All (331) · In progress (0) · Validation pending (0) · Validation inconclusive (0) · Valid (329) · Invalid (2) · Error (0)

I've been watching the server stats gradually going down day by day, but mine remain the same. :|

Have a great day! :)

Siran
42) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (2) (Message 2048407)
Posted 7 May 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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I have a quick question about Windows 10 page file.
I know that the size of the file is reset to the recommended size after reboot, but is there any way to reduce the size without rebooting ?

I am running Rosetta on a system with limited disk space, and it fetches tasks successfully after a reboot, but the Swap Page File grows while Rosetta tasks are running.

Hi Heith,

Perhaps this tutorial, on Tom's Hardware can be of help. :)

[edit]You will have to reboot after making the changes described.[/edit]

Have a great day! :)

Siran
43) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (2) (Message 2048392)
Posted 7 May 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Hi Martin,

Have we yet developed something more secure and user friendly?...

Definitely NOT from Micro$oft! ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran
44) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2048215)
Posted 5 May 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings,

Holy crap! My RAC is below 10K! :( Haven't seen it that low in years.

Have a great day! :)

Siran
45) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2047881)
Posted 2 May 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings,

Well, that's it for me:
State: All (1103) · In progress (0) · Validation pending (0) · Validation inconclusive (0) · Valid (1099) · Invalid (4) · Error (0)

I didn't think I would see the end back in '99 when I started. I just hope someone will pick up where the current staff left off. I'll stay attached and communicating for a while yet.

It's been fun. Have a great day! :)

Siran
46) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2047782)
Posted 1 May 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Looks like someone has messed with the back-off parameters again. Instead of a consistent 30 minutes, it's now 15 minutes for a couple cycles then bounces you out to 24 hours.

Hi Jim,

Yep, I just looked at mine and I'm at just under 24 hours. :(

Oh, but, Mr. 1337 got a boat load of tasks on his Core 2 Duo yesterday. I highly doubt anyone else is getting anything at all.

I have 0 pending and 4 inconclusive. I haven't gotten anything for about a week or more. I believe maybe since the 22nd of April.

I may just do as Juan has when I run out of inconclusive tasks. Or then again, maybe not just in case it doesn't take too long to get SETI running again. ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran
47) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2047450)
Posted 28 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings,

Scraping the bottom of the barrel here:
State: All (1505) · In progress (0) · Validation pending (1) · Validation inconclusive (12) · Valid (1486) · Invalid (6) · Error (0)

The end is near!

Have a great day! :)

Siran
48) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2047418)
Posted 28 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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read the red text it tells you ;)

YOUR result was marked as invalid. so it goes in YOUR invalid list. but the entire WU as a whole was marked as an error due to too many other people erroring it out (computation error, abandoned, timed out, etc) which created too many resends. i think it just stops and marks it as an error if it goes out to like 8+ people.

Hi Ian,

I knew you were gonna say that. lol ;p

Ok, that makes sense. The task had gone to something like a dozen hosts. It was still in progress at one host though. Thanks :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran
49) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2047414)
Posted 28 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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You probably caught it in the middle of being purged, with most of the tasks already gone. The entire thing is inaccessible now.

Hi Richard,

Drats! Thanks Richard! :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran
50) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2047401)
Posted 28 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings,

What's up with this Invalid list having 2 tasks listed as errors? The WU list shows "Too many errors (may have bug) Too many total results" in red text. I have never seen this before. Has anyone else?

[edit]And please, don't say something stupid like "read the red text it tells you". It does not tell me, it's suggestive. Thank you. :) Why aren't they listed in the error list?[/edit]

Have a great day! :)

Siran
51) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2047063)
Posted 26 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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It might not load comments if you’re not a Facebook user. Just a guess.


. . And a damned good one :)

. . When I clicked on that it asked me to log in ... :(

Stephen

:(

Hi Stephen,

I do have a FB page, but am not logged into it. The BOINC Manager image is clickable and it brings up a bigger picture and the comments list. It did not ask me to log in.

Have a great day! :)

Siran
52) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046907)
Posted 25 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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So why not set NNT and allow the rest of us the chance to get a few?



I suppose everyone want to "crunch the last WU"


Well 2 out of my last 5 Tasks were USEFUL, because they helped to complete Workunits that still needed Validation

What is the point of crunching work on a super fast GPU that has already been VALIDATED days ago by 2 or 3 slower hosts ?

I would estimate that around 90% of Mr 1337's tasks are already validated !

My final Pending https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3953270075 was one of 7 that had him as the original wingman. The other 6 are already validated days ago, but the 1337 guy still hasn't got around to them yet !

Hi Keith,

I looked at the hosts of several of the top 10 heavy hitters and very few of them had very few tasks on their hosts. None of them had what Mr. 1337 has. Some people just think they are better and more deserving than all others and have no compassion at all. What can you say? Par for the course.

Have a great day! :)

Siran
53) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046895)
Posted 25 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Perhaps even too many and that leads to the current situation...
The problem is that Boinc prefers handing any new tasks to those hosts that already have work.

Hosts that have work do scheduler requests as often as the cooldown allows. Empty ones end up having several hour backoffs between requests. So the empty hosts that could return the results almost immediately never get them.

So why not set NNT and allow the rest of us the chance to get a few?
54) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046542)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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HI Juan,
My apologies. I was not blaming GPUUG, I just used it as an example for why Ian refuses to explain what I was seeking to understand. That's it.
As for Github and stuff like that, I'm not privy to its use or what it does and really not that interested. Every time I see the name "Github" I think programming. I'm not a programmer.
And so, despite Ian's lack of explaining what I wanted to understand, you have done it in your post and I thank you. :)
Again, my apologies and have a great day! :)
Siran


. . Hi,

. . Since you mentioned Github, I heard a rumour from a new acquaintance that M$ are trying to get control of Github to achieve some kind of monopoly with their 'new' Linux based platform. Does anyone know anything about that. I thought Github was not commercial and therefore not up for being 'bought'.

Stephen

Hi Stephen,

Not gonna like this...
GitHub, Inc. is a United States-based global company that provides hosting for software development version control using Git. It is a subsidiary of Microsoft, which acquired the company in 2018 for US$7.5 billion. It offers the distributed version control and source code management (SCM) functionality of Git, plus its own features. It provides access control and several collaboration features such as bug tracking, feature requests, task management, and wikis for every project.

That's from Wikipedia. Looks like they already have. :(

Have a great day! :)

Siran
55) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046514)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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HI Juan,

My apologies. I was not blaming GPUUG, I just used it as an example for why Ian refuses to explain what I was seeking to understand. That's it.

As for Github and stuff like that, I'm not privy to its use or what it does and really not that interested. Every time I see the name "Github" I think programming. I'm not a programmer.

And so, despite Ian's lack of explaining what I wanted to understand, you have done it in your post and I thank you. :)

Again, my apologies and have a great day! :)

Siran
56) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046490)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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And last, you say the host in question is NOT spoofed. I beg to differ!


i don't think you know what spoofing means in this context. does his computer show more devices than he really has? no? then it's not spoofed.

Second, I watched when my main had over 200 GPU tasks and it was going through them like crazy. I saw that SETI had just over 6000 tasks RTS. So, I hit the update button because I had a dozen or so finished tasks. What happened? I was put into a 30 minute comms shutdown and got NOTHING. I reloaded the SSP and the RTS was down to 2 tasks in about a minute! If the scheduler is suspending comms for 30 minutes, how can a PC running tasks as fast as I was be "constantly returning work" and getting the lions share of the tasks


just bad luck. it happens. better luck next time.

Yeah, it figures, you're ONLY going to respond to a meager part of what I put in that paragraph in the post. Or, because the first 2 sentences were not in agreement with you, you decided NOT to finish the paragraph and respond ONLY to that. And the other one you responded with a canned response "just bad luck...".

I KNOW what spoofing is "in this context". The rest of that paragraph had values that are ONLY consistent with a spoofed rig. I asked you to explain to me how it is getting a spoofed quantity of tasks if it is not spoofed. Of course you're not going to tell me; perhaps it's a trade secret of the GPU UG. Who knows? I don't which is why I ask. Oh but then the GPU UG won't deal with pions like me just because I know nothing of programming and such. Which is why I have to keep asking stuff here because of bad memory and such. And you keep responding with "you already know that; I told you 10 times already". Explain to me how that host has 20K+ in progress if it is NOT SPOOFED!

L8er
57) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046489)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings,
How is it that a host with a Core 2 Duo CPU and 2 GPUs has 19,726 tasks in progress? My laptop had a Core 2 Duo CPU and an ATI GPU that could not run tasks and that laptop had no more than maybe 10 tasks at any given time. I don't get it! :\ Oh, I forgot, that host received 737 tasks TODAY!!!
Have a great day! :)
Siran


. . Hi Siran, you must remember, desktop CPUs use more power and run faster than laptop CPUs and 2 'modern' GPUs can chew through a lot of work 8-} For eg, my Core2Duo with just one GTX1050ti can chew through about 400 -500 tasks per day. But what I don't understand is how anyone is getting 737 tasks in a day, all I get is 'no tasks available'. :(

Stephen

:(

Hi Stephen,

Yeah, I forgot my laptop has a Pentium. I knew it was dual core. ;)

EXACTLY!!! That is what I keep asking and Ian just shuts me down saying I asked something illogical or some such crap. He says the host isn't spoofed, but I beg to differ. It would NOT be getting the tasks it gets and would not have the "In progress" quantity it has if it was not spoofed. As I also keep telling him, I get no more than 300, now, at any given time, I'm not going to get 737 with a limit of 300 because I have only 2 GPUs. I highly doubt that the 2 GPUs on that host are running THAT much faster than my 1660Tis or even if they do run faster. I suppose that overclocking the GPUs could come into play for speed.

In my opinion, that owner should be a little kinder to the rest of us and set NNT and let the rest of us get a few more than getting some every couple 3 or 4 days or whatever. Yesterday I saw that SETI had 6K+ tasks RTS and I had some tasks to report so I hit the update button and got nothing but a 30 minute comms back off. A minute later the RTS was down to 2 I believe it was.

I just had a thought: Would over setting the "Store at least [x] days of work" and "Store up to an additional [x] days of work" allow that many more tasks?

Have a great day! :)

Siran
58) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046417)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Just on the basis on CPU performance, you're comparing a laptop CPU from 2007 with 1MB cache and 1.7GHz clock speed, to a newer generation desktop CPU from 2008 with 6 times the cache and a 3.0 GHz clock speed. it would be more than twice as fast. but he's obviously not using the CPU for processing WUs, so why bother even bring it up. not very logical.

but as has been said before many times, a system that is constantly returning work will get more work from the servers than a system that is basically sitting there doing nothing since it is not having regular schedule requests and getting itself into long backoffs.

the user in question is not spoofing the GPUs, there are only 2 listed.

I wasn't gonna respond but something just does not jive and I'm the curious sort.

First off, yeah, so the Core 2 Duo is twice as fast as my dual core Pentium. I'll give you that. But, the 2 cores are not doing tasks as you also said. And if you would have read my post thoroughly you would have seen where I said that the 2 cores were not doing tasks because they were needed to drive the GPUs.

Second, I watched when my main had over 200 GPU tasks and it was going through them like crazy. I saw that SETI had just over 6000 tasks RTS. So, I hit the update button because I had a dozen or so finished tasks. What happened? I was put into a 30 minute comms shutdown and got NOTHING. I reloaded the SSP and the RTS was down to 2 tasks in about a minute! If the scheduler is suspending comms for 30 minutes, how can a PC running tasks as fast as I was be "constantly returning work" and getting the lions share of the tasks?

And last, you say the host in question is NOT spoofed. I beg to differ! If it wasn't it would not go over the 300 max tasks for 2 GPUs. I checked and there are now over 20K tasks in progress. Please explain how a "non-spoofed" host is going to go over the 300 max for 2 GPUs. Why does it have 20K+ now in progress? Could it be that the owner has figured out another way of spoofing without increasing the GPU count and still fooling BOINC into thinking there are more GPUs? I'm not a programmer so I would not know if it is even possible.

L8er
59) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046389)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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My laptop had a Core 2 Duo CPU and an ATI GPU


Your laptop has a dual core Pentium, not a Core 2 Duo. Just because it's dual core doesn't mean it's "Core2 Duo", which is a specific branding for that line of processors.

but you already know the answer to your question. How is it that you keep posting the same questions over and over that have already been asked by yourself and answered several times?

Because I'm a glutton for punishment and love to see what responses I get that make me laugh. lol :D

Oh, my bad on the CPU in my laptop. They're both still dual core. I doubt the one I saw can do THAT much more than my laptop did. No hyper-threading...

So, answer me this. If there are 2 GPUs and they are fast enough, with a CPU that cannot be running tasks and servicing the 2 GPUs also, they should receive a total of 300 tasks at any given point. How is it that what I saw had 737 downloads today and have over, what was it, 19K tasks in progress? My main does not have a slouch of a GPU, they are both 1660Tis. The most this PC ever had, since they raised the limit, was 450, 300 GPU and 150 CPU. My 8086K is a FAR CRY from a Core 2 Duo. Either there is something wrong with the server software displaying the data or there is some MAJOR cheating going on there somehow. Remember, I don't spoof!

By the way, this PC got about 250 to 300 tasks today that I saw. Woohoo! :) No more than 300 at any given time too BTW.
60) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046367)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings,

How is it that a host with a Core 2 Duo CPU and 2 GPUs has 19,726 tasks in progress? My laptop had a Core 2 Duo CPU and an ATI GPU that could not run tasks and that laptop had no more than maybe 10 tasks at any given time. I don't get it! :\ Oh, I forgot, that host received 737 tasks TODAY!!!

Have a great day! :)

Siran


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