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Message 2046948 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 17:02:20 UTC

Has the proof been given that King Donald is in a panic become obvious? Has his greed for profit finally proven to be his biggest liability? Is his narcissistic ego thinking no one is paying him any attention? Is he having a mental breakdown? Can any of you imagine what happens behind closed doors now?

Will he be the first to be impeached twice?
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Message 2046953 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 17:23:43 UTC


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Message 2046957 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 18:05:03 UTC - in response to Message 2046953.  

Ah. The self appointed Surgeon General of the USA giving advice to the US public.
Thank you very much...
SKOL as they say in Minnesota, or skál and skål elsewhere.
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Message 2046972 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 20:24:15 UTC

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494593-thousands-gather-without-social-distancing-to-protest-wisconsins-stay-at
One way to discourage the King Donald liberate protesters spreading the contagion, identify and boycott their business. A "BO" or Boycott Openers. And BO is right, they stink. :#0
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Message 2046975 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 20:34:29 UTC

Analysis: Demonstrators are guided by desperation, math and Brad Pitt
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/analys-demonstranter-styrs-av-desperation-matematik-och-brad-pitt
In the movie The Big Short, about the winner and loser of the financial crisis, Brad Pitt plays a sacked bank shark who is investing heavily in the housing market in the US to collapse. A replica from the film is now being repeated by many who protest in the United States. "For every percent of unemployment that goes up, 40,000 people die, did you know that?"
The quote has come true for some protesters, but is that true?
Yes-ish.
There is an old 1981 study that describes how 37,000 people die for each percentage point increase in unemployment in the United States. That study focused on more long-term unemployment, when American jobs moved abroad, and did not account for the number of deaths that can be prevented through other types of measures, such as a check for $ 1,200.
But in the absence of recent well-known studies, the figure in The Big Short is now used when some have started to count and compare.
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Message 2046988 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 21:01:23 UTC

This kind of reminds me of a red/blue map. It shouldn't, but it does.

Sorry about the size.
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Message 2046997 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 21:30:31 UTC - in response to Message 2046988.  

Actually it does. But that's because there are more "red" people living in cities then "blue' people in more rural areas.
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Message 2046999 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 21:50:32 UTC - in response to Message 2046988.  

Ok... So how have those dates been conjured up?


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Message 2047004 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 22:41:56 UTC - in response to Message 2047002.  
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Ok... So how have those dates been conjured up?

Extra, Extra, Read all about it. Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation published reopening data.

Phew... Thanks for that.

There's some very difficult modelling going into those results.

Very interesting for the variation between the various USA states. I wonder if that is mainly determined by population concentration? Also interesting that the recovery dates are drifting slowly further into the future.


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Message 2047006 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020, 22:48:36 UTC

Ok... So how have those dates been conjured up?
Extra, Extra, Read all about it. Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation published reopening data.
Our leaders here arn't going to get together to discuss relaxing of restrictions until May 11 and even then things may not change until at least June.
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Message 2047025 - Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 1:09:47 UTC - in response to Message 2047004.  
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Very interesting for the variation between the various USA states. I wonder if that is mainly determined by population concentration?

If that were the biggest factor but it isn't. The biggest factor is the political party of the governor of the state and how closely he hews to the party line.
If you go to the graphical page https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america and use the pull down (USA in center near top as linked) and examine the individual states you can see when each state implemented restrictions and what has been implemented if anything. Then reference another source(s) to look at political leadership, "rabidness" and draw your own conclusions. [I'm being slightly deceptive. Population density is correlated with political party affiliation. I do not profess to know for certain if one or the other is the causal factor however given time migration is the agent holding the correlation because one party has a preference for lower density, but it makes me suspect that party preference is the causal factor.]

However consider https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-who/no-evidence-that-recovered-covid-19-patients-cannot-be-reinfected-who-idUSKCN2270FB this might make the reopening utterly impossible. It also might mean a vax is impossible if true. More research (double blind study?) is necessary immediately.

<ed>As I originally said it reminds me of a red/blue map, but it shouldn't unless politics is a factor in the spread.
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Message 2047032 - Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 1:39:09 UTC - in response to Message 2047024.  

Syphilis?
You may be on to something, if the reports of ignoring social distancing in adult activities described in the Billy Bush tapes and the Steele Dossier are correct.
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Message 2047033 - Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 1:39:48 UTC - in response to Message 2047025.  
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Thanks for some good analytical comment.

That puts a difficult (political) colour on the outcomes and on what is cause vs correlation.


Also rather curious as to how and why. Is there a stronger influence of political Campaigning strategy and Marketing 'at play'?...

(Are people being 'traded' for the sake of a Trump reelection?)


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Message 2047042 - Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 2:55:46 UTC - in response to Message 2047041.  

But then I do not know what is worse, a nut like Trump, or an ultra right-wing religious nut like Pence.
Tough choice, tough choice....

It may be late enough that Pence can't replace King Donald's jesters and get anything done before the election. Also Pence is part of the swamp and hence can be controlled to some extent. One thing is for sure, it would release every GOP congressman and senator from fealty to King Donald's positions. Legislation might be able to pass. Then the election: Andrew vs. Mitt. ;-)
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Message 2047080 - Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 13:58:02 UTC - in response to Message 2047041.  

But then I do not know what is worse, a nut like Trump, or an ultra right-wing religious nut like Pence.
Tough choice, tough choice....
Mike Pence is an anti-vaxxer. Perhaps not the best choice to be a "world leader" that one would chose today...
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Message 2047114 - Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 17:06:55 UTC



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Message 2047115 - Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 17:10:55 UTC - in response to Message 2047114.  

"Oh Mike, has the EPA checked that it' s clean water?"
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Message 2047127 - Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 18:00:32 UTC - in response to Message 2047115.  

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