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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
For those like me who have a shiny dome, this might be disturbing. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11788266/bald-men-higher-risk-severe-coronavirus/ the original, much better written, is in https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/bald-men-higher-risk-severe-case-covid-19-research-finds/ which is behind a paywall for most. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I think it's more disturbing that many news media report research results like that. There are LOT of other reasons why the risk of dying of Covid-19 is higher. Well the news media are apparently dry of headlines that sell. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34841 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well the U.S. has passed 110,000 reported deaths now as it barrels toward 2 million reported cases (sometime early next week), but Brazil out did them again on both counts over the last 24hrs as they fly past the 600,000 mark for cases. Meanwhile the U.K. looks to likely to become the 2nd country to record 40,000 deaths in the next 24hrs while they will likely become the dominate E.U. country (yes you people are still technically in it) when it passes Spain for 4th place sometime next week before India tramples both of them as Italy will be forced to give up 6th place to them in the next 24hrs or so. Saudi Arabia is set to take 15th place from Canada in the next day, but that won't last long as Pakistan has just dumped China out of 17th spot and has both of them in its sights. Bangladesh will also knock Belgium out of 20th spot tomorrow and even as Sweden is mounting a fight back by retaking 24th place back from Ecuador (possible start of 2nd wave there?), but they won't keep that for long as South Africa will get both of them by the end of this weekend. But pretty much E.U. domination of the top places is fast coming to an end. Out of the 1st countries reporting cases that were up in the top ranks to begin with Israel and Japan are now down to 43rd & 44th spots, Denmark and South Korea are down to 51st & 52nd, Norway to 61st, Australia and Finland at 64th & 65th places, New Zealand at 103rd and then there's that shining light of Vietnam way down in 151st spot. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Well. The daily new cases in the world have increased since April from about 80k to 120k. However the daily deaths have decreased from about 7.5k to 5k. Hopefully a trend that will last. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I think it's more disturbing that many news media report research results like that. There are LOT of other reasons why the risk of dying of Covid-19 is higher. Well the news media are apparently dry of headlines that sell. I just found another, more bad news for me, Study Suggests Blood Type A Associated With Higher Risk of COVID-19 |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Oh. I'm also a blood type A. Should I worry? Actually not. As long you follow the recommendations to behave in the community it's not a problem at all. Should you worry? Guess not. There are so many other factors that to worry about. Age is the most significant factor to die of Covid-19. That and underlining diseases. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30669 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I think it's more disturbing that many news media report research results like that. There are LOT of other reasons why the risk of dying of Covid-19 is higher. Well the news media are apparently dry of headlines that sell. Previously reported https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84230&postid=2051053 |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I think it's more disturbing that many news media report research results like that. There are LOT of other reasons why the risk of dying of Covid-19 is higher. Well the news media are apparently dry of headlines that sell. Sorry, missed that. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Newsweek on Thursday..... https://www.newsweek.com/medical-journal-retracts-study-that-said-hydroxychloroquine-negatively-impacted-health-coronavirus-1508823 U.S. Again, the data and the collection method was questionable as was it's VERACITY (truth!)..............how many times will we hear this? The statement regarding 'scientific integrity' is also VERY telling... Politicization of a Health Emergency is not helpful.......... The most important consequence of this false publication was the stoppage of the WHO enrollment of thousands of patients in a comprehensive study which (reportedly) has now resumed. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22217 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Let's go directly to the horses mouth for this one. The report that supported the use of Hydroxychloroquine was published in The Lancet, but has been withdrawn as it was found to be, at best, an overstatement of the truth: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext Further, another report has come to light on the same drug as part of another trial here in the UK - the summary is a trial is being undertaken number of drugs, but one, Hydroxychloroquine, has been withdrawn from the trial as it is showing a negative impact (more people are dying than other treatments). https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52937153 It is notable that both these trials are/were on a fairly large number of subjects, and have shown similar trends (reduction in survival rate/increase in death rate) over "standard" treatments. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
...from the referenced url........ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52937153 The results showed 25.7% of people taking hydroxychloroquine had died after 28 days. This compared with 23.5% who were given standard hospital treatment. Apples to oranges? Again, veracity and efficacy need to be examined. How many of the treated in both groups had co-morbidity and to what extent? And were the co-morbidities present to the same degree in both groups. At what stage of illness during treatment was the hydroxychloroquine regime started? What other drugs were used in concert with the hydroxychloroquine ? Were these other drugs also used in the control group? Too many variables to obtain a comprehensive all inclusive answer. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
What a shame. ...or sham. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
The sham appears to have been perpetrated by:What a shame. Surgisphere: governments and WHO changed Covid-19 policy based on suspect data from tiny US company A Guardian investigation can reveal the US-based company Surgisphere, whose handful of employees appear to include a science fiction writer and an adult-content model, has provided data for multiple studies on Covid-19 co-authored by its chief executive, but has so far failed to adequately explain its data or methodology. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
The sham appears to have been perpetrated by:What a shame. 100% Agree. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22217 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Apples to oranges - NO, this is the purpose of the screening trial - to screen-out treatments that either do not work, or are worse than the current standard treatment. In these screening trials it is required to have very strict rules that stop a particular treatment if its performance falls below that of the control group on the (current) standard treatment. The trial regime is a long term, on-going test with a total of about 11000 people involved. These are split into groups of about 1500 for each treatment, including the "normal" treatment to act as a control. In most hospitals this is incubation plus pain control and sedation if required. Incubation is used to make sure that patient keeps on breathing, so has not been stopped on the patients on these trials. It is notable that no other potential treatment has been withdrawn from the trial. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30669 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
...from the referenced url........So a treatment that only works on 0.0001% of the population is something that when given to the other 99.9999% causes death, you want to certify as something that should be given to all. Learn what a screening study is and why it is used. The world needs a drug that works on most people, not a fractional subset. In this case the apples are human beings. The oranges are humans that apply bronzer. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34841 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I may have got it wrong mum. Sweden's top scientist admits response to virus was too lax. Sweden's state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who instituted the policy of keeping the country open during the Covid-19, expressed some regret about the plan as the death toll continues to rise. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34841 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
At the end of another day as the world is only hours away from recording 7 million cases and the U.S. is only hours away from passing 2 million the world has now past 400,000 recorded deaths while the U.S. accounts for over 112,000 of them. Sadly the current protests going on around the world now will likely help things along. :-( Brazil remains at the top of the charts for another day on both new cases and deaths followed by the U.S. in both cases. India is now into 3rd place by new cases breaking 1000 case for the day with Russia in 4th, followed by Chile, Pakistan, Peru, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, South Africa, Iran, Qatar and the U.K. comes in at 14th. Meanwhile Iran has taken 10th place from Turkey and is now after Germany while Saudi Arabia has taken 15th place from Canada with Pakistan to knock them back another spot within 24hrs. South Africa did knock Sweden back down to 25th and is on course to be the 15th country to record 100,000 cases meanwhile Colombia has pushed Singapore down to 29th. Other than that the rest of the top performers are busy closing gaps to their next targets. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30669 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
A shambles, & it could get worse Must be ecstatic about your PM. He is the right one to lead you out of Brexit so he is the right one to lead for everything! |
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