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Message 2047835 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 21:18:21 UTC

It was also the wrong type as it was designed for ambulances, meaning medics had to set up make-shift stands for the mobile devices to place next to hospital beds.
That sort of says it all doesn't it?

It obviously wasn't designed for ICU use then was it?
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Message 2047837 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 21:26:02 UTC

Who didn't read the spec sheet?
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Message 2047838 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 21:29:35 UTC - in response to Message 2047837.  

Caveat emptor.
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Message 2047842 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 22:01:11 UTC

But was it done by stupidity or by trying to save a few bucks?
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Message 2047843 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 22:05:43 UTC - in response to Message 2047842.  

I would bet on panic and stupidity.
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Message 2047849 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 22:58:54 UTC

Maybe.....
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Message 2047857 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 0:41:26 UTC - in response to Message 2047842.  

But was it done by stupidity or by trying to save a few bucks?
Well, with our hospitals being run by non-medical staff, I would say bureaucratic stupidity.
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Message 2047859 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 1:17:35 UTC
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The world wide count so far has now passed 2,400,000 cases and while those brain dead "spread the virus fools" over in the States carry on slobbering and spraying their cause about them the U.S. (with 4.25% of the world's population) is now within 2000 cases of officially accounting for a whole third of those total cases. :-O

But India (with over a billion more people than the U.S., and growing) is 1 to watch as testing there is extremely low and most of that country so is very poor and 3rd world that it could prove to be a catastrophe. :-(
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Message 2047861 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 1:40:10 UTC
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I can't find anything fundamentally wrong with the underlying conditions
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Message 2047872 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 12:04:14 UTC - in response to Message 2047861.  

I can't find anything fundamentally wrong with the underlying conditions
Neither can I. It's one hell of a report & the same can be said for this country.
When the recovery is complete, will this return to the previous state or will people remember?
We now have two categories of work: essential and nonessential. Who have the essential workers turned out to be? Mostly people in low-paying jobs that require their physical presence and put their health directly at risk: warehouse workers, shelf-stockers, Instacart shoppers, delivery drivers, municipal employees, hospital staffers, home health aides, long-haul truckers. Doctors and nurses are the pandemic’s combat heroes, but the supermarket cashier with her bottle of sanitizer and the UPS driver with his latex gloves are the supply and logistics troops who keep the frontline forces intact. In a smartphone economy that hides whole classes of human beings, we’re learning where our food and goods come from, who keeps us alive. An order of organic baby arugula on AmazonFresh is cheap and arrives overnight in part because the people who grow it, sort it, pack it, and deliver it have to keep working while sick. For most service workers, sick leave turns out to be an impossible luxury.
Personally, I think it will be "normal" as usual.
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Message 2047873 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 12:29:36 UTC - in response to Message 2047872.  

Neither can I. It's one hell of a report & the same can be said for this country.

My thoughts exactly.
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Message 2047877 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 13:10:29 UTC

Of COURSE you can't......but here's the counterpoint......

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/packers-hackwork/


....always consider whether the well is poisoned before drinking the water............

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Message 2047879 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 13:36:14 UTC - in response to Message 2047877.  

Packer remains right, in a sense: The state — i.e., the federal government — did fall down on the job. It just didn’t do so in the way he thinks.
So how should they have acted?
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Message 2047883 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 14:32:14 UTC - in response to Message 2047861.  
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I can't find anything fundamentally wrong with the underlying conditions
Me neither. And it's not only the US that have for decades downsized healthcare preparedness. Today almost everything is handled "just in time" in almost every OECD country. Why? Because it cost money to be prepared. Since pandemics "rarely" happen so why prepare? Politicians says "Not on my watch" in order to save taxes despite scientists says "Pandemics do happen but we don't know when".
An example. Sweden had a lot of PPE stored during the Cold War. They were emptied many years ago. For tax reasons of course. So now we have to import them.
Exception. Finland still have PPE stored and having less virus spreading now...
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Message 2047886 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 14:51:55 UTC - in response to Message 2047861.  

I can't find anything fundamentally wrong with the underlying conditions

That is too good an article not to give it its full title:

We Are Living in a Failed State
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The coronavirus didn’t break America. It revealed what was already broken.


That does make for criminally deadly reading for the USA...

Not something we want to import over into the UK!!


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Message 2047891 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 16:07:46 UTC - in response to Message 2047886.  

Not something we want to import over into the UK!!
There is a shocking thread about one such way you already have.
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Message 2047894 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 16:16:02 UTC - in response to Message 2047886.  
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Calling the US a failed state seems odd to me. As far as I know there are 50 states in the US. United? Well sort of. In healthcare the US is very divided. Then of course the demographics between the states are also very different.
No wonder why so many US states wonder why they are forced to lockdown by law.

Both Sweden and the US has a lockdown to mitigate the virus spreading.
A Swede says "OK".
An American says "Don't tell me what to do".
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Message 2047897 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 16:50:30 UTC - in response to Message 2047886.  
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I can't find anything fundamentally wrong with the underlying conditions

That is too good an article not to give it its full title:

We Are Living in a Failed State
wrote:
The coronavirus didn’t break America. It revealed what was already broken.


That does make for criminally deadly reading for the USA...

Not something we want to import over into the UK!!


Stay safe!
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Because I actually wanted some others to think "What's he going on about now. I better have a look" also there are some who would think I am having another go at their country, if I just put up the title of the piece. Plus if you look more closely,
This article appears in the June 2020 print edition with the headline “Underlying Conditions.”


And I don't think our country is in a much better situation.
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Message 2047898 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 16:51:39 UTC - in response to Message 2047894.  

The mantra is live free and let me contaminate as I so choose.
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Message 2047899 - Posted: 2 May 2020, 17:06:25 UTC - in response to Message 2047898.  

The mantra is live free and let me contaminate as I so choose.
Unfortunately that is not US centric as already seen here. :-(
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