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Message 2042684 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 2:04:22 UTC

Watch the video at the bottom of the page . It is EXTREMLY helpful and will disspel the fake news about covid 19

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-03/coronavirus-update-covid19-uk-deaths-rise-us-unemployment-record/12116090
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Message 2042687 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 2:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 2042679.  

Shades of Dr Li Wenliang
Did the Captain leak it, or someone at the Pentagon?
Not only Dr Li Wenliang. Another in China who dared to whistleblow is now "missing"... As for the Captain on the US carrier. He did what is supposed to do. But apparently it's bad in the US Navy to do what you are supposed to do... Must be some new rules in America...
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Message 2042690 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 2:40:33 UTC - in response to Message 2042687.  

Yep, that is "politely" known as having their panties in a twist. :-)
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Message 2042691 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 2:43:16 UTC - in response to Message 2042690.  

Yep, that is "politely" known as having their panties in a twist. :-)

Showing up Rump, "You're Fired!"
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Message 2042693 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 2:50:47 UTC
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Fun watching the usual suspects one at a time get up on the soap box and bang the drum "Its not me" and point at others.

In a country that can't put enough aside from gasoline taxes to fix roads and bridges, time to end cash accounting and require accrual accounting, this is the expectation for what happens in an upset.
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Message 2042694 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 2:52:14 UTC - in response to Message 2042691.  

On Thursday, Mr Modly told reporters that Capt Crozier was being fired for allegedly leaking the letter to the media.
At least 100 people aboard the vessel have been infected, reports say.
"Throwing the commanding officer overboard without a thorough investigation is not going to solve the growing crisis aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt."
I thought that one of the prerequisites of a naval officer was to ensure the welfare of those personnel under his/her command?
It now seems that the No 1 prerequisite is that of "kissing butt".
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Message 2042695 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 2:55:58 UTC - in response to Message 2042694.  

It now seems that the No 1 prerequisite is that of "kissing butt".
Its an election year for a narcissist. Any question?
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Message 2042696 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 2:58:51 UTC - in response to Message 2042684.  
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Watch the video at the bottom of the page . It is EXTREMLY helpful and will disspel the fake news about covid 19
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-03/coronavirus-update-covid19-uk-deaths-rise-us-unemployment-record/12116090
I did. But all it was all about how the virus works and how we should behave. The idea to is beat those bastards and find a way to change the protein shell of the virus and the protein spikes so it will not attach to a living cell.
For now wait 12 to 18 months for a vaccine.
Until then:
Wash your hands.
Avoid touching your face.
Practice physical distancing.

Where is the dispel of fake news?
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Message 2042698 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 3:07:56 UTC - in response to Message 2042696.  

Where is the dispel of fake news?
One has to ingest the fake news to have it dispelled.
I'm guessing that there is an assumption of some universal font of fake news that contaminates all.
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Message 2042700 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 3:19:55 UTC - in response to Message 2042690.  

Yep, that is "politely" known as having their panties in a twist. :-)

Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWFd-2_f-NE
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Message 2042701 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 3:31:06 UTC - in response to Message 2042678.  

Please explain why quoting the Deputy Prime Minister of Japan is wrong and an example of a "prevaricator news source".

No one else has considered it news worthy, including Faux AFAIK.
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Message 2042702 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 3:33:27 UTC - in response to Message 2042698.  
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Where is the dispel of fake news?
One has to ingest the fake news to have it dispelled.
I'm guessing that there is an assumption of some universal font of fake news that contaminates all.
Well.
Here are some real fake news that are contaminating and spreading like a virus.
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/throwing-coronavirus-disinfo-at-the-wall-to-see-what-sticks/
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Message 2042703 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 3:35:16 UTC

Hey Guv. Where be da patients.?????

3 taken to ship.

0 to field hospital in Central Park

All these Extra Beds and No patients.

WTF?

Also. Normal Death Numbers in CA are 'bout 750 die a day.

During CV, add 4 to da number. WTF?

Check all States for 'Normal' deaths per day before CV and dA change is miniscule with CV.

And U S A is SHUT DOWN WHY? fO a tiny increase in Daily Death Count.

C'mon Man!!!!!

Like I said months ago. SCREWY and dA 'Truth' will be Told.

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Message 2042710 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 4:05:22 UTC - in response to Message 2042698.  

One has to ingest the fake news to have it dispelled.
I'm guessing that there is an assumption of some universal font of fake news that contaminates all.


It is meant to inform ppl not worry ppl as there is a lot of fake facts and news .
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Message 2042711 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 4:09:05 UTC

I see that the Presidents model put forward by the White House, was inaccurate almost before the presentation ended.


One of its assumptions was that the daily increase was 850 on the 31st, a doubling every 4 days, it was significantly higher at 895, indicating a doubling closer to every 3 days.

And if you are wondering why these models shouldn't be published, so they can be shot down in flames, take a look at 538 - Why It’s So Freaking Hard To Make A Good COVID-19 Model
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Message 2042713 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 5:04:58 UTC - in response to Message 2042710.  

One has to ingest the fake news to have it dispelled.
I'm guessing that there is an assumption of some universal font of fake news that contaminates all.

It is meant to inform ppl not worry ppl as there is a lot of fake facts and news .
Yes. To disclose fake facts and news is very much needed in this time we are in right know.
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Message 2042714 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 5:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 2042711.  

I see that the Presidents model put forward by the White House, was inaccurate almost before the presentation ended.

One of its assumptions was that the daily increase was 850 on the 31st, a doubling every 4 days, it was significantly higher at 895, indicating a doubling closer to every 3 days.
And if you are wondering why these models shouldn't be published, so they can be shot down in flames, take a look at 538 - Why It’s So Freaking Hard To Make A Good COVID-19 Model
The Presidents model? I have not seen the presentation but she obviously demonstrate the importance of to "flatten the curve". Not to describe exact events.
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Message 2042715 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 5:27:34 UTC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704

This is for Austalian's but does contain a chart that compares country's and how and where they are in this pandemic , and also where there likely to end up
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Message 2042727 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 6:35:40 UTC - in response to Message 2042714.  
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They came up with numbers of between 100,000 and 240,000 deaths, based partly on the assumption that on the the numbers were doubling in the US every 4 days, The actual numbers are doubling every 3 days, therefore the peak is going to be bigger.

The model — created by the university’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) — assumes, for example, that all remaining states that have not enacted strict restrictions on residents will do so in the next week.

How much bigger depends on which model you look at, but as Nate Silver and his team concluded there are too many unknowns and too many variables to be be certain any model can be accurate.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-its-so-freaking-hard-to-make-a-good-covid-19-model/
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Message 2042756 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 12:56:45 UTC - in response to Message 2042727.  
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Try not to be blinded or excused by (assumed, obfuscated) complexity...

The unmitigated rate of spread is a simple doubling of numbers (an exponential curve) at whatever time interval. Imposed quarantine is where that curve is then reduced towards zero depending on how effective the quarantining is or for how effective whatever other measures might be.

Regardless of complexities, we can simply look at how the numbers develop and project an exponential curve for worst case, and project reasonable 'guesses' for the hoped for better outcomes.

Those 'better outcomes' can be modeled to test what assumptions can be tried out for whatever effectiveness.


However, shame about the blindly silly self-centred politics where peoples' lives are to be damned... People are much more than 'just political numbers'...

All in our deadly greedy world,

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