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Message 2051401 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 11:56:03 UTC

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President tore away process that reined in racist forces

(I've given the headline that appeared on the print edition)

The Trump administration has dismantled key federal tools for imposing accountability on police forces engaging in systemic racial discrimination, severely hampering efforts to heal the wounds of the police killing of George Floyd and the ongoing protests convulsing the country.
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Message 2051409 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 14:07:12 UTC - in response to Message 2051386.  
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Where do they get these idiots from?


Rejecting applicants for being too intelligent for a start. Then once they are in, they can pick up "training" from the many police (and corrections) officers who are members of white supremacist or other radical groups. The military is very strict on purging these groups; police forces need to be similarly so.

One other issue that police forces have is preferential hiring of ex-military, I imagine just because they know how to use firearms or it's thought that they will be calm under stressful situations. However there's a rather large downside in that military veterans may have PTSD or other issues brought on by their experiences that will cause them to over-react and escalate situations; they may require special training to counteract this. As well, the military and police are of completely opposite mindsets: When the military is deployed in a foreign country, everyone around them is a potential enemy or threat, and there is a clear "us or them" distinction. When this idea is brought to the police, who are citizens operating in their own country, we end up with the "thin blue line" mentality, over-militarization of the police, and officers being pressured to defend or hide bad conduct of their colleagues.

The oft-used meme:



(Who knew Battlestar Galactica could be so profound?)

I would love to see the Japanese train the world's police forces. Like the British, many of them don't carry firearms. Instead they are trained in martial arts (a black belt in judo is considered a strong asset), de-escalation and techniques to render hostile people harmless without violence. For example rather than one or two officers attending when there is a violent out-of-control person, a minimum of four will show up with what looks like a giant futon, and are trained how to wrap the person up in it very quickly (within a second or two) rendering them completely harmless, and they can then be transported to a place to calm down.

Edit: And this is what can happen if the problems aren't fixed...

Minneapolis council members pledge to disband police as protests continue

A majority of city council members in Minneapolis have pledged to abolish the city’s police department after the death of an unarmed black man in custody last month led to some of the biggest protests seen in the United States.
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Nine members of the 13-person Minneapolis City Council pledged on Sunday to do away with the police department in favour of a community-led safety model, a step that would have seemed unthinkable just two weeks ago.

“A veto-proof majority of the MPLS City Council just publicly agreed that the Minneapolis Police Department is not reformable and that we’re going to end the current policing system,” Alondra Cano, a member of the Minneapolis council, said on Twitter.

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Message 2051418 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 18:03:43 UTC

Where do they get these idiots from?


Special Order.

No Quota

America GOoD. REAL GOoD

RUBEWorld Accepts ALL PEOPLEs - IDIOT or NOT. COME ONE. COME ALL.

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Message 2051424 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 20:41:10 UTC - in response to Message 2051386.  

Where do they get these idiots from?
McDonald's.
Mr. Chauvin, who is 44, did not always want to be a police officer. He studied food preparation at a technical college, classes like “pantry food preparation,” “job seeking skills” and “stocks, sauces and soups,” according to his personnel file with the Minneapolis Police Department. He worked as a cook at McDonald’s and made ribs and chicken at Tinucci’s Restaurant. Then he switched paths, becoming a military police officer in the U.S. Army, serving in Germany.
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Message 2051426 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 20:45:11 UTC - in response to Message 2051424.  
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Then he switched paths, becoming a military police officer in the U.S. Army, serving in Germany.


Thanks... I had no idea he had a military background when I wrote my last post in this thread which mentioned former military police officers.
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Message 2051459 - Posted: 9 Jun 2020, 2:25:53 UTC

What MATTERs in ChiTown?

I took some nice pics of ChiTown Way Way Way Back. When Playboy Tower still had Hef and Gals in it. I was in Observation
Level of J. Hancock Bldg. and took Pic of Roof of HEFs House. Had a Pool on top. Cool Man. Cool

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-saw-its-deadliest-day-in-60-years-with-18-murders-in-24-hours-report

RUBEWorld Matters to RUBEs

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Message 2051470 - Posted: 9 Jun 2020, 5:27:11 UTC

Yep, far too many guns over there in the hands of lunatics, but a lot of us have been repeating that for far too many years.
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Message 2051518 - Posted: 10 Jun 2020, 23:36:12 UTC - in response to Message 2051515.  

Proof ordinary normal police cause crime.

Will it work in the high murder rate, high rape rate, high armed robbery rate, including the violent drug and criminal cartel's in the Democrat controlled poor inner city's?

Yep, the Democratic politician's promoting this for the innocent victim's destroyed by the above in their inner city's, are worse than stupid. They are evil.

Why not?
Before its police reforms, Camden was routinely named one of the most violent cities in the US.
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Message 2051533 - Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 3:07:00 UTC

No wonder the authorities want to control the Internet. No "magical" body cams switching themselves off & on, but public filming.
Personal cost of filming police
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Message 2051534 - Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 3:43:32 UTC

Just a typical police union man.

AFL-CIO doesn't want them.

Union out of control.

USW get out of Dodge.

Police Chief says resign.

A White Power union boss

A real King Donald Supporter.

If there is any question about what is wrong with the police, it comes from their Union and their Blue Code. Fire the lot!
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Message 2051535 - Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 4:18:49 UTC
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Not just one union man, but many.
“Eric Garcetti panicked and blamed the men and women of the LAPD for his failed leadership,” Jamie McBride, director of the Los Angeles Police Protective League, said.

Garcetti: “We must lead,” he said at that meeting. “I got calls from mayors around the country, some of them saying, ‘I’m so excited,’ the other ones saying, ‘What the hell did you do? Now I (have to) shift money.’ That’s exactly the point. It starts someplace, and we say we are going to be who we want to be or we’re going to continue being the killers that we are.”

“We’re worried about him, and we are worried about his future and the safety of our citizens,” McBride said Friday. “Yesterday he smeared every single police officer in Los Angeles and across the nation by calling us killers.”

On Friday morning, LAPPL issued a blistering statement in response to the comment that stated: “Eric has apparently lost his damn mind,” and suggesting that if the city had a charter provision allowing the removal of a mayor for illness or incapacity, “we’d plead for it to be invoked.”

Funny thing about that -Jamie McBride- Garcetti is your BOSS!

Another funny thing, George Floyd is dead by hands of Cops. And the Union said, https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/06/08/lapd-police-budget-cuts-garcetti-nury-martinez-lappl-george-floyd-looting-protests/ wrote:
In a statement from the Command Officers Association on the LAPPL website, the group “emphatically” condemned the Minneapolis PD for Floyd’s death
Guess when you call them what they do, they can't even remember their own words.


National union.
National Association of Police Organizations director Bill Johnson said the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee has kept “moving left” and has gone “off the deep end” with his calls for law enforcement reforms.


Unions bring misconduct
Unionization emboldens violent officers
A recent University of Chicago working paper found violent misconduct among sheriff’s officers increased about 40 percent after a state supreme court ruling allowed the officers to unionize. The incidents examined in this paper are among the most serious types of violent misconduct, including sexual assault and excessive force.
Additionally, the authors write, unionization “may increase solidarity among officers and thereby strengthen a code of silence that impedes the detection of misconduct.”
Use-of-force complaints more likely among unionized officers
A 2006 report from the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics found unionized police agencies garnered 9.9 use-of-force complaints for every 100 officers, compared with 7.3 for non-unionized agencies. During the disciplinary process, about 7 percent of those complaints were sustained, or found to have merit, in unionized agencies. In nonunion agencies, the sustain rate was more than double, at 15 percent.
Unionized police may be more likely to kill civilians, particularly nonwhite ones
Economist Rob Gillezeau recently previewed his research examining the relationship between unionization and police killings of U.S. citizens. While provisional, his initial results suggest the police unionization happening in the 1950s through the 1980s led to “about 60 to 70″ additional civilians killed by police each year. The “overwhelming majority” of those civilians were nonwhite.
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Message 2051542 - Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 7:03:53 UTC

It certainly seems that corruption and racism at police union levels over there is 1 of the main causes of driving the current problems to their present point and that needs to be cleaned out first and foremost.
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Message 2051544 - Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 7:18:54 UTC - in response to Message 2051542.  

It certainly seems that corruption and racism at police union levels over there is 1 of the main causes of driving the current problems to their present point and that needs to be cleaned out first and foremost.

100%. Fire the lot. PATCO time.
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Message 2051619 - Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 20:29:38 UTC

They're certainly their own (and everyone else's) worst enemies. :-(
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Message 2051640 - Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 4:36:43 UTC - in response to Message 2051620.  

As are corrupt & racist cops. After all, if they were decent professionals, there would be no need for Internal Affairs departments. :-)
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