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Message 1939018 - Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 21:43:05 UTC - in response to Message 1939013.  

"You Can't Handle the Truth!"
Quite true. I've never come across such a wastrel before :-) Maybe if the US cuts back on its wastefulness, its economy might improve 10 fold.
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Message 1939025 - Posted: 10 Jun 2018, 21:53:19 UTC - in response to Message 1939024.  

"You Can't Handle the Truth!"
Quite true. I've never come across such a wastrel before :-) Maybe if the US cuts back on its wastefulness, its economy might improve 10 fold.

Bloated Government is one of our and other Countries problems.
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Message 1939395 - Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 21:40:13 UTC

Looks like Trump is looking for a new friend.
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Message 1939947 - Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 14:09:58 UTC

And now India...
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-counters-trump-tariffs-to-hike-duty-on-us-bikes-almonds-apples/articleshow/64617963.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIDesktop
India has proposed to raise import duty on 30 products, ranging from motorcycles and certain iron and steel goods to boric acid and lentils. The customs duty on some of the items may be raised up to 50 per cent, in a signal that New Delhi will hit back at America's protectionist policies that range from a tighter visa regime to higher import duties.
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Message 1939968 - Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 19:11:56 UTC

PIc Puts My BRAIN DAMAGED MIND Way Back in OlongapoCity in dA PI

Yappin' LONG TIME

FREE TRADE wif dA LADIEs

ORANG ORANGE Yap

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Message 1939969 - Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 19:18:03 UTC - in response to Message 1939968.  

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Message 1939971 - Posted: 17 Jun 2018, 19:45:43 UTC - in response to Message 1939968.  

FREE TRADE wif dA LADIEs
Yap'n Cohen pay for it.

He gonna get his, but he ain't gonna get any!

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Message 1940433 - Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 14:55:16 UTC - in response to Message 1940404.  
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Please read the entire article, especially regarding his Germany, before any comments.
But Jochen Bittner speaks only about Germany, not the EU as a whole.
There are lot of critics in the rest of EU how Germany like to take the role controlling trade and economy.
The EU order is also unbalanced and inequitable.
And no mention of Russia's activities in Europe, which Trump only encourages.
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Message 1940719 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 0:02:16 UTC

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Message 1940724 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 0:33:42 UTC - in response to Message 1940720.  
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Just for conformation. BBC - EU tariffs on US goods come into force
Is accepting Trump's Trade War, with both sides possibly increasing future Tariffs. A correct and a positive step for the EU's economies?
Or perhaps not emulating Trump's verbal attacks and personal insults, would have led, or will lead, to a better solution for both sides.
Understanding why the EU responded as they did. My opinion is that lowering yourselves verbally and tariff wise to Trump's level, is not constructive.
Simple fact. A trade war is a no-win situation, also called a “lose-lose situation”,
The only one who doesn't understand this is Trump the Genius from Karlstad. Sigh...
He always thinks trade is a zero-sum game.
No it isn't .
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Message 1940735 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 1:05:58 UTC - in response to Message 1940720.  

Just for conformation. BBC - EU tariffs on US goods come into force

Is accepting Trump's Trade War, with both sides possibly increasing future Tariffs. A correct and a positive step for the EU's economies?

Or perhaps not emulating Trump's verbal attacks and personal insults, would have led, or will lead, to a better solution for both sides.

Understanding why the EU responded as they did. My opinion is that lowering yourselves verbally and tariff wise to Trump's level, is not constructive.


So you are saying that all other countries, which includes those that until now have been close allies, should accept Trumps tariffs, which he has still put in place after some talks. Which will cause severe damage to their manufacturing firms and trade balance. Never going to happen, what would the U.S. response be if it was the other way round?

Plus it is even worse because he doesn't know how to read a balance sheet (he only reads the Trade figure), he even puts tariffs on countries where the U.S. has a "Trade and Services" surplus, as in the U.K. and Canada.

It would also seem that he hasn't taken into account the damage to the U.S.'s manufacturing companies, because the types of steel and aluminium required are either not available or not available in sufficient quantities. Some estimates say 250,000 U.S. manufacturing jobs are at risk.
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Message 1940743 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 1:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 1940739.  
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Just that your Leaders [sic] lowering themselves to Trump's verbal level shows that they, as Trump, are the same.
Yes, we are both screwed.
It has nothing to do with lowering ourselves to Trump's verbal level.
We, that is EU, now also Russia together with China, India and perhaps some more, want to compensate for losses in trade.
Remember WTO?
Trump does, but instead of negotiating with the EU, he would rather negotiate with each 28 member state one by one.
Sorry Trump. You can't always get want you want!
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Message 1940758 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 3:23:23 UTC - in response to Message 1940735.  

Some estimates say 250,000 U.S. manufacturing jobs are at risk.
The intentional ignorance knows no bounds.
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Message 1940789 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 10:47:15 UTC

Some estimates say 250,000 U.S. manufacturing jobs are at risk.
The intentional ignorance knows no bounds.
More like at least double that again (if not triple that).

I posted a link a link a couple of weeks ago which stated that U.S. refrigerators/freezers/washing machines had jumped 37% in price due to Trump's taxes and that increase is soon to be expected to hit the new car market over there according to those who know much better than us.

So get in quickly and get your new car before the price skyrockets, just like a lot of other things will.

Meanwhile other countries will free trade around the U.S. which will send an already increasing inflation rate through the roof (I hope that the U.S. economy is strong enough to endure the idiot's policies).

....Sorry, the "Old Order" is, for good or bad, coming to an end. All 'agreements' are temporary and have always been dissolved when one or more of the participants believe it is not in their best interest(s).

Trump understands this, and the EU, Russian, Chinese Leaders are just attempting to hold on to a system that helped them and others believe hurt those not them.

Sorry, nothing is forever....
The thing is that you and Trump don't understand anything at all.

The Russians have affected your elections and help promote most of your far right brainless idiots while still doing well as a country even under current sanctions.

The Chinese that you've said for years will collapse keeps growing at a pace that out strips your growth by at least 3:1 (possibly 4:1), but you do have something right, the U.S. era is now over and has been prematurely terminated by that clown that you elected as lord high and mighty Hitler 2.0 (it was going to end anyway) and your inability to change with the times (the later will be remembered as your major downfall, Trump just helped to accelerate it).

Enjoy your future irrelevance and possible bleak outlook on your country's current course.
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Message 1940800 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 12:48:58 UTC

“The Europeans and members of the broader Western community can and must hold firm against Mr. Trump’s bullying.” says New York Times editorial today.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/opinion/europe-trump-bullying.html
The European Union, Canada and Asian countries are already responding to Mr. Trump’s protectionism with separate multilateral trade deals, and they should do what they can to impress on American industry the huge cost of a full-blown trade war.
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Message 1940807 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 13:37:10 UTC - in response to Message 1940802.  

You that secure in your income that the increased costs won't affect you? Will you still be calling them "idiots" when you are forced into revising your budget & living standards?
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Message 1940816 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 13:58:02 UTC - in response to Message 1940812.  

You that secure in your income that the increased costs won't affect you? Will you still be calling them "idiots" when you are forced into revising your budget & living standards?

Understanding that two extremes opposing each other are both idiots...

Why you would ask if anyone understanding the totally stupid Anti-Trump Foreign Governments emulating Trump. Doesn't understand the consequences of Trumps actions - Makes absolutely no sense.

Brings up a following that the Always/Never Trumper's don't understand. Which is, peoples make choices: Sometimes good, sometimes bad, sometimes a combination of both.

If the choice and I repeat IF the choice is between a stagnant economy, closed plants, lower paid jobs, high unemployment, but lower prices.

Or...

A rising economy, re-opening plants or new plants, more jobs, higher wages and expectations, but higher prices.

If you believe that higher prices will be the driving force of peoples opinions. You may be incorrect.
So not only a history professor but an economics one as well? So are you saying that increased tariffs will NOT reflect in higher prices?
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Message 1940824 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 14:28:50 UTC - in response to Message 1940820.  

NO company will absorb higher tariffs without passing down those costs to their customers. Whatever you or I think. All I can see from the B/S you post is that you would have made a 1st class con-man, the ducking & diving you do is fascinating :-)
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Message 1940832 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 14:51:05 UTC - in response to Message 1940830.  

Meaning that you agree with me :-D
WHAT planet are you on? Forgot you also stated this?
If you believe that higher prices will be the driving force of peoples opinions. You may be incorrect.
The magic word you used in your post was "Expectations"

Expecting something & actually receiving it is 2 separate issues. It may have escaped your notice but in many places living costs are rising & wages are not keeping up with said costs. THAT FACT alone gives cause for many to revise their budgets.

However, for many such as yourself who believe that they live in a perpetual "Land of Milk & Honey" it is just a waste of time & space to argue with :-)
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