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Message 1916572 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 1:13:34 UTC

Unfortunately it's looking more & more like a nuke & re-pave job.
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Message 1916575 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 1:16:05 UTC - in response to Message 1916572.  

Unfortunately it's looking more & more like a nuke & re-pave job.


Yes, and I'd rather not do that.
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Message 1916586 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 1:44:01 UTC

Well, I've done the best I know how to do, uninstalling BOINC via the Windows way of doing it, and reinstalling it, and I still get the same result.

I'd be happy to try a DOS method of doing this if anybody wants to help me through it.
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Message 1916588 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 1:53:55 UTC - in response to Message 1916586.  

you moved the seti@home folder to trash and deleted it then restarted the computer...
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Message 1916589 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 1:57:00 UTC - in response to Message 1916588.  

you moved the seti@home folder to trash and deleted it then restarted the computer...


Well, I didn't have a folder of that name. I just uninstalled BOINC.
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Message 1916591 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 1916589.  
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The mac or windows machine?


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So no setiathome.berkeley.edu folder in the projects folder?
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Message 1916592 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 1916591.  

The mac or windows machine?


The Windows 1 computer is the problem.
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Message 1916593 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:03:00 UTC - in response to Message 1916589.  

you moved the seti@home folder to trash and deleted it then restarted the computer...


Well, I didn't have a folder of that name. I just uninstalled BOINC.

After uninstalling check your drive to make sure that both BOINC folders, C:\ProgramData\BOINC & C:\BOINC, are deleted before restarting and reinstalling Gordon just to make sure that no leftovers are there to bug you. ;-)

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Message 1916596 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 1916593.  

Thanks, Wiggo. As far as I can tell, there are no other old versions of BOINC lurking on this computer.
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Message 1916598 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:24:26 UTC

I'd be happy to try this via Command line DOS, if anyone wants to walk me through it.
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Message 1916602 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:36:31 UTC - in response to Message 1916598.  

I'd be happy to try this via Command line DOS, if anyone wants to walk me through it.

Easiest just to use the Windows installer, and Windows Explorer.
Been ages since I've had to muck around with the Command prompt.
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Message 1916604 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 1916602.  

I'd be happy to try this via Command line DOS, if anyone wants to walk me through it.

Easiest just to use the Windows installer, and Windows Explorer.
Been ages since I've had to muck around with the Command prompt.

I understand what you're saying; I just don't think there's anything else I can do in Windows to solve this problem.
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Message 1916605 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:47:19 UTC
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What he means in others words is you need to find the Boinc Data directory in your host and delete it to be sure nothing was left behind when you uninstall the Boinc itself.
Why? When you uninstall the Boinc it only deletes the Boinc Programs not touch the data.
You could use you windows explorer to do the search & delete job.
That is what i mean when I said a complete new instalation in the previous post
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Message 1916608 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 3:12:39 UTC - in response to Message 1916605.  

I've done all of the things suggested, but I'm thinking perhaps doing this in the DOS command way might work better. I was never an expert in the old way, but the new way isn't helping me, either.
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Message 1916613 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 3:33:51 UTC

Waiting for my wingman right now, for a couple of tasks.

I noticed that Grant mentioned it earlier on for that of the columns in Advanced View, by means of Select Columns, next ticking the Project field,
which is also having the "Standard" option in the middle, at the bottom, making a slight difference from just OK versus abort, for that of a menu box selection.

Here I do not like it that well for its way of display, when it comes to the order of the choices, because only OK and abort is much easier to deal with.

For BOINC Manager 7.8.3, also the "Applications with exclusive rights" option, also on the Options menu, but my guess is that most are not looking here either,
except for the "..." following the first menu selection, for that of optional choices below.

Also the question box for that of really wishing to abort is unneccessary in my opinion, and any changes being performed should only be visible by clicking OK,
and here so for at least two such menu selections.
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Message 1916614 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 3:35:10 UTC

After uninstalling and deleting everything the normal way that you have on the computer, have you went into Windows Explorer and did a search for anything BOINC or SETI starting at the root of the C: drive? Might just be worth a try to see whatever leftovers might be still hanging around, causing confusion. Can't hurt, and only takes a couple secs to do.

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Message 1916677 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 14:12:36 UTC - in response to Message 1916614.  
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Al, should I start counting my disks first, or should I rather make it a couple of stubborn hands, which slowly is falling apart from me?

Rebooted to Windows 64 bit again, and the Genefer16 CUDA tasks for that of PrimeGrid did not finish here, and will probably become aborted.

Next also a long list available here as well, and needs picking up from where I left, and for this also a bit of slow start.

The Windows updates are perhaps not always in total sync with each other, but it could also depend on contents already found on each disk or partition.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7175962

As an example here, notice "Computer" 7175962 for this, and here for my bluestar account, and you may need to select "All computers" from the list available under this account.

Here "Microsoft Windows XP Media Center x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)" (on two lines there).

Meaning that it under "All computers", it also becomes the following,

Microsoft Windows XP
Media Center x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

Here in fact it is wrong, because either it was so, or it became converted in one way or another to the current Windows Ultimate, 32 bits, which should be correct here.

I lost out on most I have, and had to recover this partition, and also the fourth, which became for that of 64 bits, while the two in between became "recovered" as well,
behind the scenes, but apparently still unbootable.

Here one possible solution is copying the whole Windows directory from one place or another, depending on that above, meaning 32 bits versus 64 bits, but here needs a check.

I am also running the .vlar tasks by means of CUDA as well, and here slowing down a little, to that of one at a time.

Starting in the small for that of also duplicates, it becomes easy to get it wrong, particularly with my hands, and right now I do not know whether it is worth it.

Here apparently Microsoft is my enemy of sorts, but except for one SATA drive that developed a physical error, and also contained quite much, the rest should be still there,
and next also a bit too much to deal with as well.

One thing is having a "smooth" file or directory structure, something which I have for an old 60 GB Maxtor IDE disk, which is an excellent one.

Make it rather 2 or even 3 TB in size, and already here quite a bit of difference, except for that it could sometimes take a little while to load.

The memory here is 2 * 8 GB of RAM, and here no room for any more.

One beer left in the fridge, and only 3:10 PM in the afternoon, so because of my problems, I probably will be in bed around 7 PM, and next up around 5 PM in the morning.

So, never say never, except for perhaps not any fun either, at least for everything.
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Message 1916694 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 16:59:26 UTC

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Open Regedit
Navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager\Projects
List all the values in the key and its subkeys (Account etc.) here

Once you have copied the values here exit Manager, remove the Projects key and restart Manager.
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Message 1916702 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 18:03:37 UTC

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Most programs do a very poor job of uninstalling themselves. I mean really poor. Most will leave data files, registry imprints and a ton of other stuff that can make an uninstall/reinstall a complete waste of time. A couple solutions, 1 is to manually search for all traces of the program and remove/delete them. Doing a search with explorer works although it can very tedious and time consuming. There are a couple of decent uninstall programs that will do most of this for you, I had to find one of them to fix a problem similar to this on my brothers, I may have used IOBit Uninstaller but a simple google search for them and then another to check how good the uninstaller is what I recommend.

You may have installed this program differently then your other two so it may not reside where the default would have put it. Without a complete uninstall your just beating your head against a wall. A DOS work around would probably be 10Xs the work but that is just a guess on my part.

Of course your very last option is a complete wipe and reinstall of the OS and all contents. That may be a touch extreme but it usually works. Of course YMMV is always the mantra when giving this kind of advice.

Good luck and may the force be with you.
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Message 1916722 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 20:40:08 UTC
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Again that the previous should belong in my own thread, but rather from my experience, the fact that software is software regardless,
and that there are other factors which makes each separate part link with yet another in a proper way.

One thing is that of the Registry, which Cactus Bob is mentioning, while the other could be that of drivers which also could be needed.

Here not perhaps about the latter for that of installation, or reinstallation of BOINC Manager itself, so here better the Registry.

Cleaning a Registry is one thing, while the other is getting the correct attributes set for each element necessary.

A PC, or computer of today is a modular piece of electronics, where that of hardware should interact with software, with possible firmware in between,
which sometimes could go for that of the BIOS.

Updating software, and next also drivers as well, if perhaps not vice versa, but if rather a software application, you could end up overwriting an existing installation with
perhaps something new or different, or maybe even the same as already being found or present.

This also could go for that of "patching" as well, at least when it comes to that of software.
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