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Message 1915113 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 17:42:57 UTC
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Last year.

Now in 2018 we are at 2 minutes to midnight, one half minute closer than in last year, that is the Clock's closest approach to midnight, matching that of 1953.
Doomsday Clock Announcement, 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock

What is also scary is that now there are many more nuclear war heads around the world then it was in 1953.
Just the risk that some accident will occur has manifolded.
And by the minuterizing of them, that many are doing, to perhaps use them tactical, also increases the risk...
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Message 1915120 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 18:10:53 UTC

DOOMsDayClock Belongs in dA TRASHCan, along wif dA ManMadeClimateChangeSHAT.

I LOVE dA BOMB and dA CLIMATE.

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Message 1915128 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 19:12:34 UTC - in response to Message 1915120.  

Of course you do.
You live in Cowboy Land.
Like Major Kong.
Ihaaa!
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Message 1915140 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 20:37:31 UTC - in response to Message 1915128.  

Of course you do.
You live in Cowboy Land.
Like Major Kong.
Ihaaa!


I wouldn't say that I live in 'cowboy land', but some of my friends and neighbors still ride horses around town...

<grin>
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1915156 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 22:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 1915140.  
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Hehe:)
There are two Major Kong. Or perhaps more.
The picture, Aircraft commander Major T. J. Kong riding the bomb down, is from the movie Dr Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb:)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/3/3a/Dr._Strangelove_%281964%29_-_Trailer.webm/Dr._Strangelove_%281964%29_-_Trailer.webm.480p.webm
Major T. J. Kong is played by Slim Pickens who always plays a cowboy from Texas like he did in the Mel Brooks' movie Blazing Saddles.
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Message 1915165 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 23:02:03 UTC - in response to Message 1915140.  

Of course you do.
You live in Cowboy Land.
Like Major Kong.
Ihaaa!


I wouldn't say that I live in 'cowboy land', but some of my friends and neighbors still ride horses around town...

<grin>

We have heard about places like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1kw-cao0X8
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Message 1915169 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 23:17:06 UTC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis

The second link for starters, of course, except for that you could also be warned.

The first for the discussion currently underway, and also whether or not it should be any point at continuing with this.
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Message 1915171 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 23:25:03 UTC
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Forgot to post this bullentin from yesterday...

Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
Doomsday Clock Announcement, 2018.
https://clock.thebulletin.org/
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Message 1915173 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 23:29:47 UTC - in response to Message 1915169.  
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis
The second link for starters, of course, except for that you could also be warned.
The first for the discussion currently underway, and also whether or not it should be any point at continuing with this.

Vad är det här?
Vad har Kopernikus och Syfilis med atomvapen att göra?
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Message 1915182 - Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 23:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 1915156.  

Hehe:)
There are two Major Kong. Or perhaps more.
The picture, Aircraft commander Major T. J. Kong riding the bomb down, is from the movie Dr Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb:)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/3/3a/Dr._Strangelove_%281964%29_-_Trailer.webm/Dr._Strangelove_%281964%29_-_Trailer.webm.480p.webm
Major T. J. Kong is played by Slim Pickens who always plays a cowboy from Texas like he did in the Mel Brooks' movie Blazing Saddles.


Well, what do you expect? Slim Pickens was his 'stage name' both in the Rodeo and as an actor. After all, he worked in the Rodeo for about 20 years and gained fame both as a 'performer' and a clown. Slim Pickens even got inducted in 2005 into the Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame.

But no, he is not from Texas (although his Dad was), but California. And that Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame is in Colorado, not Texas.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1915183 - Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 0:06:04 UTC - in response to Message 1915173.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

Here it perhaps got slightly better for this part of the subject.
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Message 1915207 - Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 1:05:58 UTC - in response to Message 1915183.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction
Here it perhaps got slightly better for this part of the subject.

Mycket bättre.

Oops Wrong picture:)

Perhaps it's time to reinstate the Swedish nuclear weapons program.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_nuclear_weapons_program
Since we have NATO to the West and Russia to the East I think we need some deterrence weapons and join the MAD club.
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Message 1915229 - Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 2:21:40 UTC - in response to Message 1915120.  

DOOMsDayClock Belongs in dA TRASHCan, along wif dA ManMadeClimateChangeSHAT.

I LOVE dA BOMB and dA CLIMATE.

I Also LOVE dA Yap


You really are quite insane.
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Message 1915241 - Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 6:26:41 UTC - in response to Message 1915229.  
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Robert.

I think we both can agree that there could be both a couple of subjects in between, and also sometimes a corresponding science for each as well.

Both weather forecasting and also climate prediction are both tremendously difficult subjects, because of their complexity.

If I rather make it countless dices instead, and next stack each on top of another, sometimes the 1 at the top, and other times the 6.

Next make it a cube of dices again, or almost so, and either as set of 5*6 , or perhaps 6*6 such cubes could make it 30 or 36 dices in all.

Next make the ordered sequence of each dice in a stack more or less random, and next tell about the general distribution of each dice, based on a given probability.

Make it rather 5000, or 10000, rather than 30, or 36, and the question becomes whether or not this distribution could still be much or less the same,
when only making it random in a similar way.

Because of this, still countless factors at times, or at least individual elements, but because of this way of thinking about such distribution, also that the set which should be the
more important one, could be a smaller one in size, or perhaps numbers.

Here for that of making it the ice age for one thing, and perhaps Doomsday Clock for another, if we are not still that stupid of rather waiting for something to happen.
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Message 1915343 - Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 21:49:43 UTC - in response to Message 1915229.  

DOOMsDayClock Belongs in dA TRASHCan, along wif dA ManMadeClimateChangeSHAT.

I LOVE dA BOMB and dA CLIMATE.

I Also LOVE dA Yap


You really are quite insane.

Or he's Playing Us. I haven't come to a firm conclusion.
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Message 1915350 - Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 22:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 1915229.  
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DOOMsDayClock Belongs in dA TRASHCan, along wif dA ManMadeClimateChangeSHAT.
I LOVE dA BOMB and dA CLIMATE.
I Also LOVE dA Yap

You really are quite insane.

Maybe "Self-Identifying As a Person Living in a S**tHOLE in a S**tHOLE Part of Town in a S**tHOLE State having Been to Other Parts of World & Walked Thru S**tHOLEs there4 Feel I Can Self-Identify a S**tHOLE and Stated TRUTH 'bout S**tHOLEs" is Kim Jong-Un that have joined Seti@Home.
Kim loves bombs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq0f7rlvhIQ
Anyway. I like bombs too:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6YO-HWxVw
At a distance of course.
In Finland even glass windows was shattered when Tsar Bomba 50 to 58 Megaton exploded in 1961 over Novaja Zemlja more than 1,510 kilometers away.
The detonation was felt even in Sweden. The seismic waves was measurable even on its third round around the globe.
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Message 1915355 - Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 23:25:50 UTC - in response to Message 1915350.  

DOOMsDayClock Belongs in dA TRASHCan, along wif dA ManMadeClimateChangeSHAT.
I LOVE dA BOMB and dA CLIMATE.
I Also LOVE dA Yap

You really are quite insane.

Maybe "Self-Identifying As a Person Living in a S**tHOLE in a S**tHOLE Part of Town in a S**tHOLE State having Been to Other Parts of World & Walked Thru S**tHOLEs there4 Feel I Can Self-Identify a S**tHOLE and Stated TRUTH 'bout S**tHOLEs" is Kim Jong-Un that have joined Seti@Home.
Kim loves bombs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq0f7rlvhIQ
Anyway. I like bombs too:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6YO-HWxVw
At a distance of course.
In Finland even glass windows was shattered when Tsar Bomba 50 to 58 Megaton exploded in 1961 over Novaja Zemlja more than 1,510 kilometers away.
The detonation was felt even in Sweden. The seismic waves was measurable even on its third round around the globe.

Russia is aggressively building up its nuclear forces and is expected to deploy a total force of 8,000 warheads by 2026 along with modernizing deep underground bunkers, according to Pentagon officials. The 8,000 warheads will include both large strategic warheads and thousands of new low-yield and very low-yield warheads to circumvent arms treaty limits and support Moscow’s new doctrine of using nuclear arms early in any conflict.”[1] This is quite plausible. Existing Russian programs can support the deployment of 8,000 or more nuclear weapons with an emphasis on either strategic or non-strategic (tactical) nuclear weapons or both.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2018/01/26/will_russia_build_8000_nuclear_weapons_by_2026_112963.html

A leaked draft of President Donald Trump's nuclear posture review seems to confirm that Russia has been building an underwater nuclear doomsday machine.
Reports of the torpedo sent a chill down the spines of experts, who say it could not only destroy a city but poison the area with radiation for years to come.
Russia may have intentionally let on that it was working on the doomsday device to sow fear in the US and deter attacks.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nuclear-posture-review-russia-doomsday-weapon-2018-1
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Message 1915362 - Posted: 27 Jan 2018, 0:01:41 UTC - in response to Message 1915355.  


But frankly this is MAD.
Today the US have 6,800 warheads, Russia 7,000.
Russia perhaps have 8,000 warheads by 2026
Now if Russia have more warheads than the US and violating a treaty.
Does it matter?
Russia will probably say the difference is peanuts.
But when North Korea has 15 the world goes bananas.
But for very good reasons I would say.
So why are the US and Russia allowed to have more than 14,000 together?
Makes no sense.
This make sense though.

Scary thing that only a few couple years ago this scenario was unthinkable.
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Message 1915369 - Posted: 27 Jan 2018, 0:15:23 UTC - in response to Message 1915362.  
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But frankly this is MAD.
Today the US have 6,800 warheads, Russia 7,000.
Russia perhaps have 8,000 warheads by 2026
Now if Russia have more warheads than the US and violating a treaty.
Does it matter?
Russia will probably say the difference is peanuts.
But when North Korea has 15 the world goes bananas.
But for very good reasons I would say.
So why are the US and Russia allowed to have more than 14,000 together?
Makes no sense.
This make sense though.

Scary thing that only a few couple years ago this scenario was unthinkable.

You can't put the genie back in the bottle and add biological weapons.

Unfortunately, the question is when, not if, an 'accident' or a rogue state, a rogue leader, a rogue general, a terrorist group...
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Message 1915377 - Posted: 27 Jan 2018, 0:53:43 UTC - in response to Message 1915369.  

Unfortunately, the question is when, not if, an 'accident' or a rogue state, a rogue leader, a rogue general, a terrorist group...

Yes thats scary as well.
Perhaps even more scary.
Accidents has already happened when false alarms have been triggered.
Three times only within a couple of months lately in Japan, Sweden and Guam.
Perhaps more.
I wonder where all the rogue states, rogue leaders, rogue generals, terrorist groups, etc get their nukes from?
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