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Message 1977596 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 0:26:59 UTC - in response to Message 1977590.  

Anyone trusting power, or decrying those who do not trust power. Have always gotten what they didn't deserve.


I trust those with the power to make me rich will not do so, though those with the power to make me poor will try to do just that. What do I not deserve as a result of such trust in power?

What will always happen when humans, all of whom have frailties and some which are evil are given or will take Power. This is why we must never trust power.

Yes, it is possible and has happened a few times in human history. That a good person was given or took the power and did good. But what eventually replaces that person?

As an example of those who trust power:

Those that support Socialism, Communism, et al. Cannot explain why those humans given the power, or those in the future using this power. Will not, to those who truly understand human frailties, human evils and human history. Use their authority to increase their power and enrich their wealth to the detriment of the people. As has always happened and will always happen.

Until we can ensure that only benevolent, moral and ethical humans will be given great and centralized power and be replaced with the same.

We must, to the extent possible, limit and decentralize the power we give to humans.


Thanks, though I'm pretty sure others here will agree with me that the non-answer you provided was just what I deserved.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1977651 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 11:49:56 UTC

Speaking of corruption...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-corruption/u-s-drops-out-of-top-20-performers-in-global-corruption-index-watchdog-says-idUSKCN1PN0CU
The United States slid four points lower on a global corruption index in 2018, dropping out of the top 20 countries for the first time since 2011, watchdog Transparency International said in a report that cited growing threats to democracy worldwide.
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Message 1977659 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 13:44:32 UTC - in response to Message 1977657.  

Has there ever been a State of the Union Address that was entertaining?
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Message 1977661 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 13:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 1977657.  

As I have posted. I think it will be more entertaining than any Reality Show :-D
There lays America's main problem today. There's an old saying, pay peanuts & you get monkeys. It seems America much prefer clowns.
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Message 1977665 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 13:59:08 UTC - in response to Message 1977663.  

Agree that both sides inside that Chamber should probably join the Circus :-D
And that, Ladies & Gentlemen, is the State of the Union today. :-(
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Message 1977671 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 14:53:49 UTC

There lays America's main problem today. There's an old saying, pay peanuts & you get monkeys. It seems America much prefer clowns.
The problem with this analogy is that the salary of those 'clowns'(agree completely with the label), is a LOT of peanuts, and they KEEP collecting it after leaving office.

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1977672 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 14:55:18 UTC

We really should rename legislature / parliament and the like to kindergarten
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Message 1977673 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 14:58:36 UTC - in response to Message 1977671.  

There lays America's main problem today. There's an old saying, pay peanuts & you get monkeys. It seems America much prefer clowns.
The problem with this analogy is that the salary of those 'clowns'(agree completely with the label), is a LOT of peanuts, and they KEEP collecting it after leaving office.
Agree & sadly America is not alone there.
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Message 1977678 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 15:10:00 UTC - in response to Message 1977675.  

There lays America's main problem today. There's an old saying, pay peanuts & you get monkeys. It seems America much prefer clowns.
The problem with this analogy is that the salary of those 'clowns'(agree completely with the label), is a LOT of peanuts, and they KEEP collecting it after leaving office.
Agree & sadly America is not alone there.

Interesting and informative that the last 4 posters, 3 American and 1 Irish, with very different opinions about most subjects, agree about politicians.
Make that one Swede as well:)
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Message 1977681 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 15:20:03 UTC - in response to Message 1977678.  
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There lays America's main problem today. There's an old saying, pay peanuts & you get monkeys. It seems America much prefer clowns.
The problem with this analogy is that the salary of those 'clowns'(agree completely with the label), is a LOT of peanuts, and they KEEP collecting it after leaving office.
Agree & sadly America is not alone there.

Interesting and informative that the last 4 posters, 3 American and 1 Irish, with very different opinions about most subjects, agree about politicians.
Make that one Swede as well:)

And an Englishman.

And to get back to the discussion about the US Leader, $1.5 trillion U.S. tax cut has no major impact on business capex plans: survey
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration’s $1.5 trillion cut tax package appeared to have no major impact on businesses’ capital investment or hiring plans, according to a survey released a year after the biggest overhaul of the U.S. tax code in more than 30 years.

The National Association of Business Economics’ (NABE) quarterly business conditions poll published on Monday found that while some companies reported accelerating investments because of lower corporate taxes, 84 percent of respondents said they had not changed plans. That compares to 81 percent in the previous survey published in October.

The White House had predicted that the massive fiscal stimulus package, marked by the reduction in the corporate tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent, would boost business spending and job growth. The tax cuts came into effect in January 2018.

“A large majority of respondents, 84 percent, indicate that one year after its passage, the corporate tax reform has not caused their firms to change hiring or investment plans,” said NABE President Kevin Swift.

The lower tax rates, however, had an impact in the goods producing sector, with 50 percent of respondents from that sector reporting increased investments at their companies, and 20 percent saying they redirected hiring and investments to the United States from abroad.
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Message 1977683 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 15:30:56 UTC - in response to Message 1977675.  

There lays America's main problem today. There's an old saying, pay peanuts & you get monkeys. It seems America much prefer clowns.
The problem with this analogy is that the salary of those 'clowns'(agree completely with the label), is a LOT of peanuts, and they KEEP collecting it after leaving office.
Agree & sadly America is not alone there.

Interesting and informative that the last 6 posters, 3 American , 1 Irish, 1 Swede & 1 Englishman with very different opinions about most subjects, agree about politicians.

That dispels your notion on social media. :-)
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Message 1977693 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 15:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1977686.  

Negative. One agreement does not excuse the hysterical name calling infecting Social Media :-)
Who are the Trumper brothers - Never & Always?
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Message 1977697 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 15:58:12 UTC - in response to Message 1977694.  

You mean they really "exist"? Which one became president & where?
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Message 1977698 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 15:58:19 UTC - in response to Message 1977684.  

And to get back to the discussion about the US Leader,
$1.5 trillion U.S. tax cut has no major impact on business capex plans: survey
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration’s $1.5 trillion cut tax package appeared to have no major impact on businesses’ capital investment or hiring plans, according to a survey released a year after the biggest overhaul of the U.S. tax code in more than 30 years.

The National Association of Business Economics’ (NABE) quarterly business conditions poll published on Monday found that while some companies reported accelerating investments because of lower corporate taxes, 84 percent of respondents said they had not changed plans. That compares to 81 percent in the previous survey published in October.

The White House had predicted that the massive fiscal stimulus package, marked by the reduction in the corporate tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent, would boost business spending and job growth. The tax cuts came into effect in January 2018.

“A large majority of respondents, 84 percent, indicate that one year after its passage, the corporate tax reform has not caused their firms to change hiring or investment plans,” said NABE President Kevin Swift.

The lower tax rates, however, had an impact in the goods producing sector, with 50 percent of respondents from that sector reporting increased investments at their companies, and 20 percent saying they redirected hiring and investments to the United States from abroad.

It appears from the referenced article that during the first year of the tax cuts. There was no impact in some sectors and a positive impact in others.

How this will play out in the coming years is a good question.

The problem of the way you stated it, is that you failed to quantify the sectors and some could read it as neutral and positive, when in fact, compared to how Trump predicted it inject life into the whole business sector it is almost a complete failure.
The goods producing sector employs ~21 million out of a total of nearly 260 million employed persons. So it is only 8% of the workforce and only half of that sector increasing investments.

So in only ~4% of the overall numbers did it have a positive effect.

As I said those tax cuts for big business were a dismal failure.
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Message 1977702 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 16:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1977688.  

It appears from the referenced article that during the first year of the tax cuts. There was no impact in some sectors and a positive impact in others.

How this will play out in the coming years is a good question.

It is obvious that the tax cuts are increasing the disparity of income and wealth between the wealthy and the rest of the population besides increasing the federal budget deficit which will eventually cause severe inflation.
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Message 1977705 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 16:22:07 UTC - in response to Message 1977683.  
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Interesting and informative that the last 6 posters, 3 American , 1 Irish, 1 Swede & 1 Englishman with very different opinions about most subjects, agree about politicians.

LOL. Remind me of stories like "One American, one Irish and one Swede was sitting in a pub. Suddenly Jesus enter the pub...".
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Message 1977707 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 16:28:46 UTC - in response to Message 1977705.  

Interesting and informative that the last 6 posters, 3 American , 1 Irish, 1 Swede & 1 Englishman with very different opinions about most subjects, agree about politicians.

LOL. Remind me of stories like "One American, one Irish and one Swede was sitting in a pub. Suddenly Jesus enter the pub...".

Jesus Ramirez?
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Message 1977712 - Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 23:57:42 UTC - in response to Message 1977702.  

As I was going to say before the outrage rudely interrupted ...

Tax cut is enlightening in some other ways as well. The 96% no change shows that corporate taxes are seen as a pass through cost by corporations to the consumer. The only other explanation is that corporate tax is so de minimis that it has no effect of the bottom line.

In any case the huge tax giveaway is far too large for the tiny ROI to the USA. Or voodoo economics is a failure.
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Message 1977721 - Posted: 30 Jan 2019, 1:07:53 UTC

Tresemme Tres Two

Nice hair spray, Donald. Is it scented?
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Message 1977770 - Posted: 30 Jan 2019, 6:24:34 UTC - in response to Message 1977681.  

There lays America's main problem today. There's an old saying, pay peanuts & you get monkeys. It seems America much prefer clowns.
The problem with this analogy is that the salary of those 'clowns'(agree completely with the label), is a LOT of peanuts, and they KEEP collecting it after leaving office.
Agree & sadly America is not alone there.

Interesting and informative that the last 4 posters, 3 American and 1 Irish, with very different opinions about most subjects, agree about politicians.
Make that one Swede as well:)

And an Englishman.

And a South African.
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