Former White House counsel Donald McGahn must comply with House subpoena, judge rules

for those of you behind Washington Post no Subscription. I have copy and post.

Spencer S. Hsu and Ann E. Marimow
Washington Post
November 25, 2019, at 3:00 p.m. PST

Former Trump White House counsel Donald McGahn must comply with a House subpoena, a federal court ruled Monday, finding that top presidential advisers cannot ignore congressional demands for information and raising the possibility that McGahn could be forced to testify as part of the impeachment inquiry.

U.S. District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson of Washington, found no basis for a White House claim that the former counsel is “absolutely immune from compelled congressional testimony,” likely setting the stage for a historic separation-of-powers confrontation between the government’s executive and legislative branches.

The House Judiciary Committee went to court in August to enforce its subpoena for McGahn, whom lawmakers consider the “most important” witness in whether Trump obstructed justice in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election.

does anyone remember this.

President Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin giving a joint press conference in Helsinki in 2018.

and President Donald rump says to the press core "I asked Vladimir Putin if he meddled in our US 2016 election and Vladimir Putin told me he did not.

dose anyone else finds this funny Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha LOL ?????

or stupid, Criminal President Donald rump ?????

No paywall McGahn Story
https://apnews.com/22261df99d7541e5a2a4000cd3d14719
includes a copy (link) of the 120 page court order.

Regarding the Mueller investigation, the reason the House investigation wants to speak with Donald McGahn is because they want to find what his actions were in disrupting the Mueller inquiry.
Therefore don't try and write off the Mueller inquiry until after Donald McGahn has been questioned.

Please show where a vote that was cast, was change by Putin and therefore changed the results of the 2016 election.

That is not the question I asked.

I asked does anyone else find it funny that:

President Donald rump with Putin standing right beside him --- says to the press core "I asked Vladimir Putin if he meddled in our US 2016 election and Vladimir Putin told me he did not.

What did tRump expect Vladimir Putin to say? -- Yes Mr. President ... I meddled in your 2016 American election.

Yes, this very important Constitutional issue will probably have to be decided by SCOTUS sometime in the future.

It was decided while I was in High School, and it doesn't look good for the NY mob boss.

Yes, this very important Constitutional issue will probably have to be decided by SCOTUS sometime in the future.

It was decided while I was in High School, and it doesn't look good for the NY mob boss.

I do like the quote that is reported in the BBC take on that ruling.

Judge Jackson also explicitly said the president "does not have the power" to stop his aides from responding to subpoenas from Congress - adding that "presidents are not kings".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50554162

If he was King, you could have taken a leaf out of our history of Tuesday 30 January 1649.

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The judge has also been reported as saying;

“Stated simply, the primary takeaway from the past 250 years of recorded American history is that Presidents are not kings,” Jackson wrote. “This means that they do not have subjects, bound by loyalty or blood, whose destiny they are entitled to control. Rather, in this land of liberty, it is indisputable that current and former employees of the White House work for the People of the United States, and that they take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Moreover, as citizens of the United States, current and former senior-level presidential aides have constitutional rights, including the right to free speech, and they retain these rights even after they have transitioned back into private life.”

JE what did I say yesterday.

No news from you on the Survey USA poll, published two days later than the Emerson College poll, that found 51% supporting Impeachment and 42% against.

We're always waiting for an answer that never comes.

A politician, in the USA, is not a well respected occupation.

And as a U.S. citizen what are you doing, or going to do, to fix that?

Was he right or wrong to interfere?
IMHO, he was right.

He and many members of the military believe Gallagher and others have been wrongly accused of war crimes and that an atmosphere of "political correctness" has led to overzealous prosecutions of military personnel for their actions on the battlefield.

The White House Administration departure lounge seems to need enlarging. :-)

Was he right or wrong to interfere?
IMHO, he was right.

He and many members of the military believe Gallagher and others have been wrongly accused of war crimes and that an atmosphere of "political correctness" has led to overzealous prosecutions of military personnel for their actions on the battlefield.

The White House Administration departure lounge seems to need enlarging. :-)

Slam Dunk, by posing for photos Gallagher was guilty of a their equivalent of section 69 offence. Demotion and posting is a normal punishment.

UK Army Act 1955 section 69,
(1) A person subject to service law commits an offence if he does an act that is prejudicial to good order and service discipline

IMHO, he was right.

Sirius which He do you refer?

Celebrating a killing is not something that should be done. Doesn't matter if it is Bil Ladden celebrating bringing down the twin towers, or Obama celebrating killing Bin Ladden.

Rump is immoral. He, Rump, would and did celebrate killing others.

All dead deserve respect. They are not trophies.

All dead deserve respect. They are not trophies.

Agree, unfortunately, tell that to war correspondents/photographers. Some time ago, reading an article on the Iraq war, photographers were not to photograph American dead, but it was okay to photograph "enemy" dead. Then of course there is Vietnam with a photo of either a squaddie or a correspondent holding up a decapitated head of an "enemy".
That's just the print media, then you have broadcast media.
Anything for a story - right?

IIRC it isn't illegal to take a picture of a dead soldier. However, the Geneva Convention prohibits summary executions on the battlefield.
While in poor taste the photo isnt a war crime. It is however behavior unbecoming of a US serviceman and is punishable.

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Extraordinary, she must really hate herself, ‘I don’t like being called a liar’.

Just maybe then, one shouldn't lie so much, when in a position of responsibility.

edit} A very good question. Fox News Guest Hijacks Segment: ‘Why the Hell Does Tucker Carlson Still Have a Job Here?’

Extraordinary, she must really hate herself, ‘I don’t like being called a liar’.

For those who can't get behind WP's paywall, Self-confessed liar Sarah Sanders says: 'I don't like being called a liar'. ;-)

[edit] No, the new CNN poll is not good news for Trump on impeachment.

Except that we are missing the forest for the trees here: A majority of the country believes the current President of the United States should be impeached and removed from office!

A quick check of history shows how strange that is.
The peak of support for the impeachment and removal of then-President Bill Clinton in 1998 was 29% in CNN polling. That's the highest that number ever went, despite the fact that the House Republican majority did vote to impeach late that year!
Ditto impeachment sentiment for the two presidents between Clinton and Trump. In a 2006 CNN poll, 30% of the public wanted George W. Bush impeached and removed from office; in 2014, 33% said the same of Barack Obama. (Unlike Trump and Clinton, neither Bush nor Obama ever faced any sort of formal impeachment investigation or vote.)
What those historical numbers tell us is that for at least the last two decades, there is roughly 30% of the country that is ready to impeach a president (usually of the party to which they do not belong) at all times.

And the plot thickens.

Trump administration officially put hold on Ukraine aid same day as Trump call.

Sirius, You mention Vietnam. Funny. Perhaps the coverage there was different than here. In WWI, WWII, Korea, the censors would not permit a photo of a dead American soldier. Vietnam changed that. Americans for the first time saw their dead laying in a rice paddy on the evening network news while they had their TV dinner. I think you know where that led.

Rump figured that out too. He doesn't want photos of American war dead. From a propaganda standpoint I see his point. But America has a First Amendment. He can't censor unless government facilities are used to transmit the images. That is not a requirement for a war correspondent today. It was before Vietnam.

I'm not sure how you feel about the traditional trophy photo of the hunter, gun in hand, holding up the head of the beast he just killed. Most of the time the beast isn't even going to be eaten, but the skin will make a rug.

If the photo is to document an after action report, I get that. If the photo is to identify the person, I get that. If the photo is documentary news, I understand that. I don't get a trophy photo of a human being. War is a disgusting thing that one should not relish.

Extraordinary, she must really hate herself, ‘I don’t like being called a liar’.

For those who can't get behind WP's paywall, Self-confessed liar Sarah Sanders says: 'I don't like being called a liar'. ;-)

[edit] No, the new CNN poll is not good news for Trump on impeachment.

Except that we are missing the forest for the trees here: A majority of the country believes the current President of the United States should be impeached and removed from office!

A quick check of history shows how strange that is.
The peak of support for the impeachment and removal of then-President Bill Clinton in 1998 was 29% in CNN polling. That's the highest that number ever went, despite the fact that the House Republican majority did vote to impeach late that year!
Ditto impeachment sentiment for the two presidents between Clinton and Trump. In a 2006 CNN poll, 30% of the public wanted George W. Bush impeached and removed from office; in 2014, 33% said the same of Barack Obama. (Unlike Trump and Clinton, neither Bush nor Obama ever faced any sort of formal impeachment investigation or vote.)
What those historical numbers tell us is that for at least the last two decades, there is roughly 30% of the country that is ready to impeach a president (usually of the party to which they do not belong) at all times.

And the plot thickens.

Trump administration officially put hold on Ukraine aid same day as Trump call.

Further to that Two OMB officials resigned voicing concerns over Ukraine aid hold, official testifies

Thanks for alternate site.

Trump knew about whistleblower complaint when he released Ukraine aid

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump had been briefed on the whistleblower complaint that's now at the heart of the House impeachment inquiry when he released military aid to Ukraine in September, The New York Times reported Monday, citing two people familiar with the matter.
The people told the Times that lawyers from the White House counsel's office briefed Trump on the complaint and explained that they were attempting to ascertain whether they were legally obligated to give it to Congress.
News of Trump's knowledge of the complaint before his decision to release the security assistance underscores a key question at the heart of the impeachment inquiry about whether the aid was tied to Trump's wish for Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.

CNN reported earlier Monday that the White House budget office's first official action to withhold $250 million in Pentagon aid to Ukraine came on the evening of July 25, the same day Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke on the phone, according to a House Budget Committee summary of the office's documents.
A hold had been placed on the Ukraine aid at the beginning of July, and the agencies were notified at a July 18 meeting that it had been frozen at the direction of the President, a week before the Trump-Zelensky call.

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....and CNN has been SO correct on SO many issues of late.........

Something earlier needs comment:

The House Judiciary Committee went to court in August to enforce its subpoena for McGahn, whom lawmakers consider the “most important” witness in whether Trump obstructed justice in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election.

...Amazing how the Dims keep flogging dead horses........the Mueller report is history, it was a wet firecracker and is a straw for grasping by a Dim leadership that just farted again under Adam the Madame Schiff(the biggest pimp Washington has seen since the Cavanaugh hearings).......... the foot steps of Michael Horowitz can be heard approaching with a handful of indictments, some said to be going VERY high up in both the FBI and Intelligence services and the Dims are scared Schiffless.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/10/bill-barrs-doj-opens-criminal

https://www.waynedupree.com/cia-brennan-task-force/

One thing that is certain......a wholly partisan vote to impeach, without any support from the opposing party is an attempted coup of a legally elected President and his administration. And if the stories of even Dim support waning are true the vote may not even pass.....they are now talking about censure instead.....because if there is not a majority voting yes on impeachment the Dims will again look as silly as the actually are.

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