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SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6653 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
The problem with stopping Kim from causing harm by force, may cause the death and untold suffering of millions. I would not want to be living in South Korea or Japan if we decided to stop the violence against others. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The problem with stopping Kim from causing harm by force, may cause the death and untold suffering of millions. I would not want to be living in South Korea or Japan if we decided to stop the violence against others. And that is the six million life question. Is it possible to bring him down without scrificing millions of innocent lives? One has to weigh the millions of innocents he shall sacrifice in his own honor if we do nothing. Where is the balance? I do not confess to know the answer. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30697 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The problem with stopping Kim from causing harm by force, may cause the death and untold suffering of millions. I would not want to be living in South Korea or Japan if we decided to stop the violence against others. And that is the question. How many innocent die if military action is taken? I find such slaughter of innocents rather repugnant. Apparently there are some who post here who wish to do so with glee in their hearts. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Would a military decision. If not 100% successful (1 or more Atomic Bombs not destroyed). Which could be transported on an 'Ox Cart'. Also threaten millions. Captain obvious, yes it would. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The fact is, I am ready to die. Most of the rest of the human race is not ready to die by the whim of a self supporting ruler of kings , as he supposes himself to be. So, the rest of the world just stands by and waits for his next bowel movement? No, I think we nuke him now, before he gets bolder. And that is not a rhetorical statement. I think we go and bomb Kung Foo Chow right now, this instant. Take him out of the gene pool. And I do realize that this means taking out a few million of his faithful with him. I am not ignorant of that fact. I also am not ignorant of the pain and suffering he shall bring upon those who happen to survive his regime every moment he is left alive. The greater good would be served by taking him out as soon as possible. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30697 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Regime change to force your moral code upon others. Didn't learn a damn thing from Vietnam ... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Regime change to force your moral code upon others. ... therein lies the problem Which is the lesser evil? Blondie or Ping Pong? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30697 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Regime change to force your moral code upon others. Equal, the evil being forcing upon others. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I also am not ignorant of the pain and suffering he shall bring upon those who happen to survive his regime every moment he is left alive. I find it to be very wrong that those who have never seen war up close are so eager to enter into a war. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I also am not ignorant of the pain and suffering he shall bring upon those who happen to survive his regime every moment he is left alive. You are somehow misquoting me. I have never been in armed combat. Thankfully, that is true. But, you cannot take that as meaning I do not reaalize what war is. I lost friends in that war. True, real companions who were old enough to serve, my friend. Men who went to war and never came back. Your dismissal of me simply because I myself did not die in the conflict is ignorant at best. And totally pisses me off at it's worst. I survived the vietnam conflict by the grace of god not having placed me there. And yet I consider it one of the worst conflicts that mankind has inflicted upon itself. Does that make it clear enough for you, Gary? I do hope that it does. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I also am not ignorant of the pain and suffering he shall bring upon those who happen to survive his regime every moment he is left alive. Just because I am German by birth does not make me Hitler. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Just because I am German by birth does not make me Hitler. Of course not. And Hitler was an Austrian by the way. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Just because I am German by birth does not make me Hitler. Facts seldom matter, what does matter is how he feels. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Clyde I don't make things up. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Just because I am German by birth does not make me Hitler. Wait a minute. Kittyman has German ancestors named Saddlemaker. What's wrong with that? So do I. About 300 years ago Mr Frick came to Sweden. He was a Tailor but changed his name to Nils Matsson. https://sok.riksarkivet.se/Sbl/Presentation.aspx?id=14470 Do I feel like a German. Not Really:) Oh Trump has also German ancestors:) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19101 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Just because I am German by birth does not make me Hitler. But do any of them, like I do, a 100% English gentleman, have a German birth certificate? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Just because I am German by birth does not make me Hitler. A 100% English gentleman? Are you sure? I'm quite certain that you have some other genes. Like Scot, Wales and even Scandinavian Genes:) No needs for birth certificate. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19101 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Only native Briton, Anglo-Saxon (fathers side) and Norman (mothers side) genes found. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Only native Briton, Anglo-Saxon (fathers side) and Norman (mothers side) genes found. Yes. Normans also know as Norsemans. Hehe:) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19101 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Only native Briton, Anglo-Saxon (fathers side) and Norman (mothers side) genes found. More like northern French genes, from area conquered by the Norsemen. |
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