Someplace I had heard, but I cannot find the source again, that you can use the OEM board bracket from an AM3 board that you are decommissioning and put it on your new AM4 board and use your AM3 hold downs on your waterblock or air cooler. Take this with the grain of salt it deserves.

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Which one is the currently recommended optimized version for MB on Linux 64bit, http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=48 ?

Haven't done much SETI lately, but am right now trying to get an overview with which Intel CPUs my R7 @ 3.6GHz roughly compares with.

Thanks!

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Which one is the currently recommended optimized version for MB on Linux 64bit, http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=48 ?

Haven't done much SETI lately, but am right now trying to get an overview with which Intel CPUs my R7 @ 3.6GHz roughly compares with.

Thanks!

I'm not sure if anyone has done a comparison of the Linux apps yet.
I would probably start with the AVX app myself.

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FYI if you like Windows 7 or 8(.1) and don't want to "up"grade: Microsoft is now denying updates to Ryzen and Kaby Lake platforms.

(Microsoft's page on this)

It looks like Microsoft is starting to lock down system updates for those using AMD’s Ryzen and Intel’s Kaby Lake processors on older versions of Windows, including Windows 7 and 8.1. Users are now starting to encounter the following error message: “Your PC uses a processor that isn’t supported on this version of Windows”. This message appears when a user attempts to update their OS and a quick look at Microsoft’s support page reveals upgrading to Windows 10 is the only resolution.

Microsoft’s support page on the matter says that Windows 10 is the ‘only’ OS to support these updated hardware configurations. You will need Windows 10 if running Kaby Lake or newer, AMD’s Bristol Ridge or newer (this includes Ryzen), or the Qualcomm 8996 and want to receive important updates in order to remain secure.

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I have been very busy here did not had much time to follow all the posts but I will be off 4 days this week-end and I will get back into it. Still no news from Corsair bracket and its a joke.
I might change my water CPU cooler for another brand that is ready for AM4. My learning Linux project is also on the ice for now. Cheers

Just got Numbskull put back together for crunching after putting in Ryzen and AM4. What a battle. I decided to not wait around for Corsair and put in a Noctua NH-D15-SE-AM4 air cooler temporarily until the bracket shows up. This thing runs hot, at least its reported temperature. Tctl temp is reporting 80° C. with the socket reporting 46° C. But that is a real temperature of 60° C. because the 1700X (mine) and the 1800X have a +20 degree offset put in by AMD. Air coming off the cooler is barely warm in reality. Still have the wrong memory for it and so far can only get it to run at 2400 Mhz instead of its XMP spec of 3200 Mhz. Have only got the CPU running at 3.775 Ghz so far with the Vcpu @1.36 with LL1. CPU utilization is currently only about 75% because I set the max tasks to 12 in app_config. I might push it all the way once I get a better handle on how it runs. Still very much in observation mode since the platform is so new.

Cool ! I am happy for you that you can finally play with it. Here I could have done something with the wraith cooler but... anyway. I do not intend to overclock the 1700 and with the water cooling I am not too worry about the temperature. It will probably also be running 2 GPU and 12 CPU tasks.

Right, that was easy (apart from the motherboard mounting screws which decided to make a break for freedom).
Pulled the Phenom and its motherboard, cleaned all the case fans, replaced one that had died some time ago.
Mounted the Ryzen 7-1700 with its stock cooler, 8GB RAM, connected up the HDD & DVD, PSU (don't forget the 24 way....), plugged a monitor in & turned it on. A message about having a new CPU from the BIOS - well there's a surprise!, reboot, no rude messages, wait a few moments and the Mint boot screen came to life, the the desktop appeared. Launch System monitor - 16 "cores" reported. Resumed SETI, and a load more CPU tasks appeared, and look as if they are running. Time from suspending SETI to resuming - less than 2 hours, no re-installation of the OS, no configuration changes.
What's the system?
Ryzen 7-1700, stock cooler
Asus Prime X370 Pro motherboard
8GB DDR4, 2666MHz Corsair RAM
1 off GTX960 GPU

I'm going to let it run for a few days to see how it settles down before trying any sort of tuning.



Interesting to see how little RAM is being used - with 14 CPU tasks, and 1 GPU task 1.7GB (I'm running Petri's "magic" app). This compares with the 4GB being used on my last Windows PC - which is only running 4 CPU tasks and 4 GPU tasks (SoGs)

Nice. I hope it will go as smoothly here when I finally get on to it.

Someplace I had heard, but I cannot find the source again, that you can use the OEM board bracket from an AM3 board that you are decommissioning and put it on your new AM4 board and use your AM3 hold downs on your waterblock or air cooler. Take this with the grain of salt it deserves.

That is only true for one motherboard. The ASUS Crosshair VI Hero motherboard has both sets of mounting holes. The original position for the AM3 socket and another set of holes for the new AM4 socket. No other manufacturer has done similar. And that is the only motherboard in the ASUS lineup that does it. But it does make it simple to reuse your existing AM3 cooling solution.

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Right, that was easy (apart from the motherboard mounting screws which decided to make a break for freedom).
Pulled the Phenom and its motherboard, cleaned all the case fans, replaced one that had died some time ago.
Mounted the Ryzen 7-1700 with its stock cooler, 8GB RAM, connected up the HDD & DVD, PSU (don't forget the 24 way....), plugged a monitor in & turned it on. A message about having a new CPU from the BIOS - well there's a surprise!, reboot, no rude messages, wait a few moments and the Mint boot screen came to life, the the desktop appeared. Launch System monitor - 16 "cores" reported. Resumed SETI, and a load more CPU tasks appeared, and look as if they are running. Time from suspending SETI to resuming - less than 2 hours, no re-installation of the OS, no configuration changes.
What's the system?
Ryzen 7-1700, stock cooler
Asus Prime X370 Pro motherboard
8GB DDR4, 2666MHz Corsair RAM
1 off GTX960 GPU

I'm going to let it run for a few days to see how it settles down before trying any sort of tuning.



Interesting to see how little RAM is being used - with 14 CPU tasks, and 1 GPU task 1.7GB (I'm running Petri's "magic" app). This compares with the 4GB being used on my last Windows PC - which is only running 4 CPU tasks and 4 GPU tasks (SoGs)

Well that was a lot simpler than what I went through. I needed to do the complete re-install of Windows 10. Basically, a whole day to get it running stable. Still not running at its potential. Have to wait for microcode and RAM compatibility updates. AMD says sometime around May should be when they ship updated code and BIOS to the board makers.

Though even only running at 70%, I am knocking a half hour off CPU tasks. Have the CPU and board running at 3.825 Ghz and memory at 2.4 Ghz. That CPU speed is what the 1700X is supposed to run with 2 cores boosted to that speed. I have all sixteen cores running that speed. Completely stable. Reported temperatures are scary, not what you were used to with the Phenom or FX processors, but they say that is normal for the Ryzen chips. Nothing to worry about. Its been enlightening and interesting for sure.

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Which one is the currently recommended optimized version for MB on Linux 64bit, http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=48 ?

Haven't done much SETI lately, but am right now trying to get an overview with which Intel CPUs my R7 @ 3.6GHz roughly compares with.

Thanks!

I'm not sure if anyone has done a comparison of the Linux apps yet.
I would probably start with the AVX app myself.

I did some testing with Linux apps and yes AVX was slightly faster.

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Cool ! I am happy for you that you can finally play with it. Here I could have done something with the wraith cooler but... anyway. I do not intend to overclock the 1700 and with the water cooling I am not too worry about the temperature. It will probably also be running 2 GPU and 12 CPU tasks.

You really should try. The 1700 seems to be the sweet spot for overclocking. Lots of people are posting stable 4.0+ Ghz speeds at only 60° C full load temps.

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Reported temperatures are scary, not what you were used to with the Phenom or FX processors, but they say that is normal for the Ryzen chips. Nothing to worry about.

AMD comment on various reported Ryzen issues, and the reported CPU temperatures are mentioned.

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Which one is the currently recommended optimized version for MB on Linux 64bit, http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=48 ?

Haven't done much SETI lately, but am right now trying to get an overview with which Intel CPUs my R7 @ 3.6GHz roughly compares with.

Thanks!

I'm not sure if anyone has done a comparison of the Linux apps yet.
I would probably start with the AVX app myself.

. . Since AMD opted to implement their AVX at half the bit width that Intel use you might want to try the highest SSE version that is available for a comparison. Not sure of that is SSSE3.0 or SSE4.1. I know I would like to know which crunches faster on the R7.

. . please keep us informed.

Stephen

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Right, that was easy (apart from the motherboard mounting screws which decided to make a break for freedom).
Pulled the Phenom and its motherboard, cleaned all the case fans, replaced one that had died some time ago.
Mounted the Ryzen 7-1700 with its stock cooler, 8GB RAM, connected up the HDD & DVD, PSU (don't forget the 24 way....), plugged a monitor in & turned it on. A message about having a new CPU from the BIOS - well there's a surprise!, reboot, no rude messages, wait a few moments and the Mint boot screen came to life, the the desktop appeared. Launch System monitor - 16 "cores" reported. Resumed SETI, and a load more CPU tasks appeared, and look as if they are running. Time from suspending SETI to resuming - less than 2 hours, no re-installation of the OS, no configuration changes.
What's the system?
Ryzen 7-1700, stock cooler
Asus Prime X370 Pro motherboard
8GB DDR4, 2666MHz Corsair RAM
1 off GTX960 GPU

Interesting to see how little RAM is being used - with 14 CPU tasks, and 1 GPU task 1.7GB (I'm running Petri's "magic" app). This compares with the 4GB being used on my last Windows PC - which is only running 4 CPU tasks and 4 GPU tasks (SoGs)

. . Ironically that is exactly the configuration I have been planning. I priced all the bits then held off because of the dramas over Windows and the SMT function and BIOS issues that have been mentioned. I can wait another month or 3. I had intended to get around the SMT confusion by running with HT off. But I was waiting to be sure whatever mobo stock is for sale has the revised/debugged BIOS. So I am very interested in your results.

Stephen

Which one is the currently recommended optimized version for MB on Linux 64bit, http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=48 ?

Haven't done much SETI lately, but am right now trying to get an overview with which Intel CPUs my R7 @ 3.6GHz roughly compares with.

Thanks!

I'm not sure if anyone has done a comparison of the Linux apps yet.
I would probably start with the AVX app myself.

I did some testing with Linux apps and yes AVX was slightly faster.

. . Was that on a Ryzen system? I think he may be well advised to try some comparisons for himself on his Ryzen rig.

Stephen

Cool ! I am happy for you that you can finally play with it. Here I could have done something with the wraith cooler but... anyway. I do not intend to overclock the 1700 and with the water cooling I am not too worry about the temperature. It will probably also be running 2 GPU and 12 CPU tasks.

You really should try. The 1700 seems to be the sweet spot for overclocking. Lots of people are posting stable 4.0+ Ghz speeds at only 60° C full load temps.

. . I read a review saying that at 3.6GHz with the stock cooler it was quite stable, I think it might have been Tom's Hardware. So I was planning at staying at 3.5GHZ but maybe ....

Stephen

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Which one is the currently recommended optimized version for MB on Linux 64bit, http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=48 ?

Haven't done much SETI lately, but am right now trying to get an overview with which Intel CPUs my R7 @ 3.6GHz roughly compares with.

Thanks!

I'm not sure if anyone has done a comparison of the Linux apps yet.
I would probably start with the AVX app myself.

. . Since AMD opted to implement their AVX at half the bit width that Intel use you might want to try the highest SSE version that is available for a comparison. Not sure of that is SSSE3.0 or SSE4.1. I know I would like to know which crunches faster on the R7.

. . please keep us informed.

Stephen

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Will start testing earliest tomorrow evening. Currently I'm testing long running Einstein (Gravitational Wave search) WUs with 8 and 16 threads.
3.6GHz with the Wraith Spire is realistic. My R7 (8y old Enermax Pro82+ Bronze & 32GB DDR4) manages that at 1.1625V, consuming 120W with Einstein, 145W with WCG or mprime. The Spire should be able to cool that. It had no problem with 3.2GHz and way to high auto voltage of 1.35V.

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Which one is the currently recommended optimized version for MB on Linux 64bit, http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=48 ?

Haven't done much SETI lately, but am right now trying to get an overview with which Intel CPUs my R7 @ 3.6GHz roughly compares with.

Thanks!

I'm not sure if anyone has done a comparison of the Linux apps yet.
I would probably start with the AVX app myself.

. . Since AMD opted to implement their AVX at half the bit width that Intel use you might want to try the highest SSE version that is available for a comparison. Not sure of that is SSSE3.0 or SSE4.1. I know I would like to know which crunches faster on the R7.

. . please keep us informed.

Stephen

8-}

Unfortunately, we are stuck with SSE3 in the current apps. I've found over the past couple of years that the SSE3 app is not as fast as the AVX version. I miss Joe Segur's efforts.

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Someplace I had heard, but I cannot find the source again, that you can use the OEM board bracket from an AM3 board that you are decommissioning and put it on your new AM4 board and use your AM3 hold downs on your waterblock or air cooler. Take this with the grain of salt it deserves.

That is only true for one motherboard. The ASUS Crosshair VI Hero motherboard has both sets of mounting holes. The original position for the AM3 socket and another set of holes for the new AM4 socket. No other manufacturer has done similar. And that is the only motherboard in the ASUS lineup that does it. But it does make it simple to reuse your existing AM3 cooling solution.

Thanks for the correction.

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I had some time to play with Linux today while waiting for corsair AM4 bracket. Mint is installed and updated. BOINC is installed and I have ran 2 WU using CUDA60. When I look at ''computers on this account'' I see the same machine twice. One on WIN10 and the other one on Linux. Next step is to install system monitoring tools and then I might make a permanent switch to Mint. I have to say that it feels light and fast. On Windows 10 I am using all CPU and GPU meter as it is very visual so you know right away if your machine is crunching or not. Not quit as easy on Linux it seems. Once I have accomplished that I will try to install and run the special CUDA apps... But for now I am still learning all the //$$ sudo +++ /et/etc/etc/etc $$$ needed to use the terminal. Lots of work ahead. Learning Linux is not easy.

Just put Numbskull back into service crunching BOINC. Replaced the dual rank memory with single rank memory. Boy, what a difference. Put in the DOCP profile for XMP 3200 and just like that, the machine boots into 3200 Mhz memory. No fighting the BIOS involved. Ran a couple of hours of Prime95, the latest version on Blend with the FMA2 settings and had to use Optimized settings for the phase converters to pass P95 without errors. For some reason, I guess the increase in the Infinity Fabric speed, from my previous best at 2400 Mhz to 3200 Mhz, increased the socket temperatures from 46-50° C to 79°C. It didn't make any difference in Auto or LLC1 in socket temps. The CPU temps are right back at 80-82° C. where they were before crunching on the previous memory and same 3.825 Ghz CPU core clocks at 100% utilization that they were before. Essentially running stock CPU, SoC and memory voltages and everything mostly in Auto in the BIOS, except for the Optimized phase inverters previously mentioned.

I think I will let this run for a day and see where the results end up. Hopeful there will be no Invalids or Errors. I don't think I will push any higher in clocks for the time being since 3.8 Ghz is where the 1700X is supposed to max out on core clocks. I wish I could get the socket temps back into the 50's. Things will change again I'm sure once I get the AIO water cooler back installed.

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