My order is due to be picked tomorrow (10 March) - I'll let you know how I get on.

(One of the reasons for going for a 1700 rather than a 1700X was the inclusion of a stock cooler and the probable shortages of suitable 3rd party coolers for the latter.)

A very smart decision or foresight since the 1700 runs as fast as the 1800X for $170 less.

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Nice work Rick.

Will check on the results later.

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My RYZEN system is up and running. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8221727
System Specs:
* CPU: R7 1700
* MB: Crosshair VI Hero
* Memory: Kingston HyperX 2400MHz 2x8G DIMM
* Storage: Intel 540 Series SSD
Video introduction: https://youtu.be/DZo8Pi1j0XU
I will posting additional assessments on performance this weekend.

Thank you Rick. I cant wait to see how it goes regarding the CPU temperature running full load. Running cool and quiet is a priority here and I choose my components accordingly. Right now there are a total of 15 quiet fans in my case (780t white). The power supply fan never start at 450 watts (RM1000i) the CPU runs at 38 Celsius and the Asus Rog Strix GTX-1070 are at 56 Celsius running two seti@home tasks. I can barely hear the machines when I enter the room and it wont destroy itself if I forget to leave the room door open... I favor cool and quiet operation over high RAC. I am only crunching one third of the time anyway so RAC is not very important for me.

I was not in a hurry to build the new system but since I now have all the parts on my desk its kinda frustrating to wait after the corsair bracket...

The system went to sleep soon after I did last night. Forgot to change the power saving settings. Up and running again...

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I've been reading non-stop for the past couple of weeks about Ryzen forum builds and all the goings on. Everybody is concerned about the reported CPU temperatures that they are seeing. What I haven't seen is anyone pulling out a thermocouple or contactless IR temperature gun and shooting the chip socket or cooler to see what the real temps are. Rick, do you have a temp gun in your toolbox by chance and can get a temperature reading around the socket or back of the socket on the motherboard backside? I really think the readings that people are seeing in the BIOS or monitoring programs are flaky. A lot of people are commenting also that the temperature of the air coming through an air cooler or through a water radiator is only mildly warm. I can't see how a 65W or 95W chip can produce 90° C. temps. The thermal Tmax dissipation for Ryzen 7 is only 128W. It's not like these new chips are producing the kind of waste heat the 220W TDP FX-9570 did.

Got fed up with Amazon about no information on my motherboard order after 2 weeks and have tried to cancel the order. They can't figure out how because I ordered it in a bundle. Ordered the ASUS Prime X370 Pro from Newegg earlier as it was back in stock. Was $10 cheaper too. Hope I see it next week sometime so I can get started on my build. Don't now what I'm going to do for cooling yet since still no word on the AIO bracket. I might have to buy an air cooler to get the build up and running.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

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I've been reading non-stop for the past couple of weeks about Ryzen forum builds and all the goings on. Everybody is concerned about the reported CPU temperatures that they are seeing. What I haven't seen is anyone pulling out a thermocouple or contactless IR temperature gun and shooting the chip socket or cooler to see what the real temps are. Rick, do you have a temp gun in your toolbox by chance and can get a temperature reading around the socket or back of the socket on the motherboard backside? I really think the readings that people are seeing in the BIOS or monitoring programs are flaky. A lot of people are commenting also that the temperature of the air coming through an air cooler or through a water radiator is only mildly warm. I can't see how a 65W or 95W chip can produce 90° C. temps. The thermal Tmax dissipation for Ryzen 7 is only 128W. It's not like these new chips are producing the kind of waste heat the 220W TDP FX-9570 did.

Got fed up with Amazon about no information on my motherboard order after 2 weeks and have tried to cancel the order. They can't figure out how because I ordered it in a bundle. Ordered the ASUS Prime X370 Pro from Newegg earlier as it was back in stock. Was $10 cheaper too. Hope I see it next week sometime so I can get started on my build. Don't now what I'm going to do for cooling yet since still no word on the AIO bracket. I might have to buy an air cooler to get the build up and running.

Toms Hardware has been using an IR camera in their reviews for a while.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu,4951-11.html

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Ahh, missed that somehow. So I guess that the CPU heats up to 90° C. without a cooler and still heats up to 90° C with a custom water loop under load. Somehow doesn't make sense. You're constantly removing 95W of heat with the cooler. I guess any cooler just slows down when you hit the inevitable peak temperature reached under load.

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I can't see how a 65W or 95W chip can produce 90° C. temps.

Very easily if the heat isn't being removed (as Tom's Hardware video shows).
There used to be (probably still are?) small low powered (40W or so) soldering irons that reach over 300°c, but they're only good for very small/light work.

So I guess that the CPU heats up to 90° C. without a cooler and still heats up to 90° C with a custom water loop under load. Somehow doesn't make sense.

The pump isn't pumping, or the water block isn't fitted correctly. Most likely the incorrect fitting of the water block, given the issues with the back plate & screws.

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The pump isn't pumping, or the water block isn't fitted correctly. Most likely the incorrect fitting of the water block, given the issues with the back plate & screws.

No I was referring to the fact that all the new Ryzen 7 CPU's, 1700-1800X ramp to 80-90° C. when put under 100% multi-thread load in tests. Doesn't matter whether the cooling is by air or water. Just seems to be the nature of the beast that is Global Foundries 14nm LPP node process. I think the lowest temperature I read for a fully loaded test report had the 1800X at 72° C. with extreme enthusiast custom water cooling. The thermal limit is defined as 95°C. by AMD before a chip starts throttling.

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No I was referring to the fact that all the new Ryzen 7 CPU's, 1700-1800X ramp to 80-90° C. when put under 100% multi-thread load in tests. Doesn't matter whether the cooling is by air or water. Just seems to be the nature of the beast that is Global Foundries 14nm LPP node process. I think the lowest temperature I read for a fully loaded test report had the 1800X at 72° C. with extreme enthusiast custom water cooling.

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Either the temperature reporting is wrong, or the heatsink/water block is incorrectly fitted, or there is a majorly serious issue with their heat spreader/CPU fitting.

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No I was referring to the fact that all the new Ryzen 7 CPU's, 1700-1800X ramp to 80-90° C. when put under 100% multi-thread load in tests. Doesn't matter whether the cooling is by air or water. Just seems to be the nature of the beast that is Global Foundries 14nm LPP node process. I think the lowest temperature I read for a fully loaded test report had the 1800X at 72° C. with extreme enthusiast custom water cooling.

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Either the temperature reporting is wrong, or the heatsink/water block is incorrectly fitted, or there is a majorly serious issue with their heat spreader/CPU fitting.

Yes, that is what is suspected. The temperature reporting is wrong. People have stated that nothing more than a BIOS change from 5704 to 5804 have raised the reported CPU temp by 10° C. on the Hero motherboards. That is what I have been trying to get across. There is no way the reported temps are real, not when any heatsink is barely warm to the touch.

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I guess I Will see right away if this the 1700 produces more heat than the 8350 by looking at the h100i Water temp and how the cooler behaves (fan speed) If Corsair finaly wake up and ship the am4 bracket...

Order has just been shipped - should arrive early next week as I requested "no delivery attempt at weekend" because I'm never sure where I'm going to be at the weekend and the office is all shut up.

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I didn't realize it but I have just discovered that my 1700 came with the AMD wraith cooler :) I go get some RAM at the local store (2400mhz) and I will play with it this week-end. I intend to leave the CPU stock so this cooler will do for now. Before going into full load crunching testing mode there are things to do that wont requires intense cooling. At least for a novice like me...

Bonne fin de semaine !
Marc

I've been reading non-stop for the past couple of weeks about Ryzen forum builds and all the goings on. Everybody is concerned about the reported CPU temperatures that they are seeing. What I haven't seen is anyone pulling out a thermocouple or contactless IR temperature gun and shooting the chip socket or cooler to see what the real temps are. Rick, do you have a temp gun in your toolbox by chance and can get a temperature reading around the socket or back of the socket on the motherboard backside? I really think the readings that people are seeing in the BIOS or monitoring programs are flaky. A lot of people are commenting also that the temperature of the air coming through an air cooler or through a water radiator is only mildly warm. I can't see how a 65W or 95W chip can produce 90° C. temps. The thermal Tmax dissipation for Ryzen 7 is only 128W. It's not like these new chips are producing the kind of waste heat the 220W TDP FX-9570 did.

Got fed up with Amazon about no information on my motherboard order after 2 weeks and have tried to cancel the order. They can't figure out how because I ordered it in a bundle. Ordered the ASUS Prime X370 Pro from Newegg earlier as it was back in stock. Was $10 cheaper too. Hope I see it next week sometime so I can get started on my build. Don't now what I'm going to do for cooling yet since still no word on the AIO bracket. I might have to buy an air cooler to get the build up and running.

I have a temp gun. I will do some assessments tomorrow. I am finishing up a video on benchmarks with several other CPU's. I have included AVX CPU app performance in the benchmarks. HWMonitor doesn't give a good temp reading but the latest Beta of HWInfo seems to give good info. I have the R7-1700 OC'ed to 3.5GHz with no change to Vcore or LLC. MB reported Package temp is 63C and CPU reported Tctl is 58.9C. This is with 15 threads of CPU tasks and 1 GPU task. After I update the BIOS, I will work more with the OC settings. So far it is looking really good!

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Thanks Rick, curious what the temp gun shows on the socket and on the cooler fins. I hope you are well read up on all the forum reporting of the pitfalls that can occur with BIOS updating. You are taking a chance every time it seems. How did you achieve your OC? Through multiplier or BCLK? Right now the Tctl that the latest HWinfo 5.46 reports is probably the most accurate reading of the core temp.

I decided I wasn't going to wait on Corsair and ordered the AM4 edition of the Noctua NH-D15 air cooler to tide me over until the AIO bracket shows up. I expect the cooler and motherboard to arrive midweek. Still haven't decided to just try my Corsair 3000 CL15 memory or turn it back in for 3200 memory. I have to find the review that talked about the Ryzen Infiinity Fabric and how it likes even numbered CAS timings. That will help me decide whether to go to the 3200 CL16 memory.

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So far it is looking really good!

That sound so good to my ears... Unfortunately for me I wont have time to work on the machine this week end like I had planed earlier today :(

For those who are running the ASUS Crosshair VI Hero motherboard, there has been a release of a new BIOS 0902 that supposedly solves the "bricking" problem when the BIOS is updated or goes into 'auto-update' loop. The new BIOS also seems to have reduced the load temperatures by 10° C.

Overclock.net rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

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Thanks Rick, curious what the temp gun shows on the socket and on the cooler fins. I hope you are well read up on all the forum reporting of the pitfalls that can occur with BIOS updating. You are taking a chance every time it seems. How did you achieve your OC? Through multiplier or BCLK? Right now the Tctl that the latest HWinfo 5.46 reports is probably the most accurate reading of the core temp.

I decided I wasn't going to wait on Corsair and ordered the AM4 edition of the Noctua NH-D15 air cooler to tide me over until the AIO bracket shows up. I expect the cooler and motherboard to arrive midweek. Still haven't decided to just try my Corsair 3000 CL15 memory or turn it back in for 3200 memory. I have to find the review that talked about the Ryzen Infiinity Fabric and how it likes even numbered CAS timings. That will help me decide whether to go to the 3200 CL16 memory.

I let the system stabilize running SETI and made the follow observations with temp gun and HWInfo 5.45-3090:
Back of VRM with temp gun is 46C
Back of CPU with temp gun is 51C, MB CPU Temp is 61C, CPU Tctl is 56C
Back of GPU (Nano) with temp gun is 44C, Crimson reports 47C
Top of VRM Heat sink 40C (Hottest reading)
Top of Chipset 37C (Hottest reading)
CPU Cooler fins 44C (Hottest reading)

Overclocked to 3.5GHz with no change to LLC or Vcore. Bclk is unchanged at 100MHz. Only changed core ratio. I am using the AMD Wraith cooler, as it looked like it was more effective than cooler than came with the CPU. Plan to move to a modified Fractal Design Kelvin as soon as the new mount comes in from Fractal Design.

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What is the ambient temperature?

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Darwin NT