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Message 1858864 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 5:15:54 UTC

No work is going out to any of my systems. Kind of expected that when things were back online, but server status page still shows a ton of work available - but that also shows as of 1hr ago, so that stat is not updating either.
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Message 1858871 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 6:20:10 UTC
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I'm now connecting to the Scheduler more often, although still plenty of Scheduler errors there. Now when a connection does go through the response is within 3 seconds. And it's always "Project has no tasks available".

The database/File status page is now updating.
Apparently work is being split, and someone somewhere has received some work- Ready-to-send buffer has dropped by 100,000.
I just can't get any, even with changing application settings.


EDIT-
*bangs head on desk*
30 seconds after posting, one of my systems picked up some work.
Still can't get any on my main system, but at least there is some out there, occasionally, when you can contact the Scheduler...
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Message 1858873 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 6:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 1858871.  

looks like I'm out of beer.... Going to go stock up to ride this through.
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Message 1858884 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 7:29:39 UTC

Scheduler errors just about cleared up.
Now getting work on some requests.
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Message 1858893 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 8:19:08 UTC - in response to Message 1858884.  

Scheduler errors just about cleared up.
Now getting work on some requests.

Looking over my logs I didn't have very many failures and my caches filled up pretty quickly.

Project details for: SETI@home including all dates
Scheduler Requests: 701
Scheduler Success: 98 %, Count: 690
Scheduler Failure: 1 %, Count: 11 (Total)
Scheduler Failure: 1 % of total, Count: 10 (Couldn't connect to server)
Scheduler Failure: 0 % of total, Count: 0 (HTTP service unavailable)
Scheduler Failure: 0 % of total, Count: 0 (HTTP internal server error)
Scheduler Failure: 0 % of total, Count: 1 (Failure when receiving data from the peer)
Scheduler Failure: 0 % of total, Count: 0 (Timeout was reached)
Scheduler Timeout: 0 % of failures

Project details for: SETI@home including 01-Apr-2017
Scheduler Requests: 78
Scheduler Success: 88 %, Count: 69
Scheduler Failure: 11 %, Count: 9 (Total)
Scheduler Failure: 10 % of total, Count: 8 (Couldn't connect to server)
Scheduler Failure: 1 % of total, Count: 1 (Failure when receiving data from the peer)

Project details for: SETI@home including 31-Mar-2017
Scheduler Requests: 20
Scheduler Success: 90 %, Count: 18
Scheduler Failure: 10 %, Count: 2 (Total)
Scheduler Failure: 10 % of total, Count: 2 (Couldn't connect to server)

SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
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Message 1858908 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 10:32:40 UTC

Given the length of the outage, all things told, it's actually recovering pretty well. Now, if I can just recover from the havoc adding Einstein caused, I'll be happy ... NOT impressed with the initial startup process there ...
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Message 1858915 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 11:28:33 UTC - in response to Message 1858908.  

Given the length of the outage, all things told, it's actually recovering pretty well. Now, if I can just recover from the havoc adding Einstein caused, I'll be happy ... NOT impressed with the initial startup process there ...


. . Did you set the E@H resource priority to 0%? That advice proved successful for me.

Stephen

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Message 1858921 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 11:55:17 UTC - in response to Message 1858915.  

Given the length of the outage, all things told, it's actually recovering pretty well. Now, if I can just recover from the havoc adding Einstein caused, I'll be happy ... NOT impressed with the initial startup process there ...


. . Did you set the E@H resource priority to 0%? That advice proved successful for me.

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I also added E@H, but couldn't find where to set resource proiority....?
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Message 1858937 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 13:11:31 UTC - in response to Message 1858921.  

Given the length of the outage, all things told, it's actually recovering pretty well. Now, if I can just recover from the havoc adding Einstein caused, I'll be happy ... NOT impressed with the initial startup process there ...


. . Did you set the E@H resource priority to 0%? That advice proved successful for me.

Stephen

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I also added E@H, but couldn't find where to set resource proiority....?



I too wasn't able to find the setting in BOINC Manager to change the priority on projects. And I made the mistake of downloading a crap load of tasks from 2 other projects so it might be a couple days before my Windows machine is able to start the Seti tasks it has. But I'm glad to wake up and see new Seti tasks have been downloaded to my 2 best computers!
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Message 1858940 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 13:25:24 UTC

The resource share is found on their website project preferences at Einstein just like here at SETI. ;-)

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Message 1858945 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 13:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 1858940.  

The resource share is found on their website project preferences at Einstein just like here at SETI. ;-)

Cheers.



Thanks, I have changed the preference settings so now Einstein will remain an active project, but will use 1% of my resources during normal ops.
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Message 1858947 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 13:57:50 UTC - in response to Message 1858945.  
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Thanks, I have changed the preference settings so now Einstein will remain an active project, but will use 1% of my resources during normal ops.

If you want to add E@H as a backup project the right thing to do is set recources to 0% (zero). With 1% Boinc will fill your cache with E@H WU.

Zero allow Boinc to get new E@H WU only when your S@H cache is empty and 1 WU at a time only.
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Message 1858956 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 14:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 1858937.  
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I too wasn't able to find the setting in BOINC Manager to change the priority on projects. And I made the mistake of downloading a crap load of tasks from 2 other projects so it might be a couple days before my Windows machine is able to start the Seti tasks it has. But I'm glad to wake up and see new Seti tasks have been downloaded to my 2 best computers!


Priority for projects are found on the individual project "my account" page. You will need to go to Einstein@home and select your account, then found you project preferences, find the one your computer is set to and then change the value from 100% or 50% to 0%. Then save. Have your computer update to that project, it will then be told it's new priority. The next time it connects again, it will follow that priority. In this case with a 0%, it will default as a back up project. When your main project has no work, the back up will down load just enough work to keep it busy for that duration (normally just 1 work unit per GPU unless you have an app_config.xml which tells it a different values). Once the main project starts to send work, the back up will not download any new work.

Edit....

Damn you Juan and your fast Brazilian typing....lol
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Message 1858983 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 17:32:58 UTC - in response to Message 1858763.  

Everything working now.
Thanks to the SETI staff for all their hard work on this.
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Message 1859030 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 21:55:27 UTC - in response to Message 1858921.  

Given the length of the outage, all things told, it's actually recovering pretty well. Now, if I can just recover from the havoc adding Einstein caused, I'll be happy ... NOT impressed with the initial startup process there ...


. . Did you set the E@H resource priority to 0%? That advice proved successful for me.

Stephen

:)

I also added E@H, but couldn't find where to set resource proiority....?


. . I had the same problem. You have to set it on the E@H site, their selections are on a small menu bar just below the larger title bar at the top of the page.

. . I hope that helps.

Stephen

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Message 1859032 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 22:01:40 UTC - in response to Message 1858937.  

Given the length of the outage, all things told, it's actually recovering pretty well. Now, if I can just recover from the havoc adding Einstein caused, I'll be happy ... NOT impressed with the initial startup process there ...


. . Did you set the E@H resource priority to 0%? That advice proved successful for me.

Stephen

:)

I also added E@H, but couldn't find where to set resource proiority....?



I too wasn't able to find the setting in BOINC Manager to change the priority on projects. And I made the mistake of downloading a crap load of tasks from 2 other projects so it might be a couple days before my Windows machine is able to start the Seti tasks it has. But I'm glad to wake up and see new Seti tasks have been downloaded to my 2 best computers!


. . That confounded me as well. I expected too much of the manager. You have to set each projects priority on that projects own site.

Stephen

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Message 1859034 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 22:04:33 UTC - in response to Message 1858945.  

The resource share is found on their website project preferences at Einstein just like here at SETI. ;-)

Cheers.



Thanks, I have changed the preference settings so now Einstein will remain an active project, but will use 1% of my resources during normal ops.


. . As ironic as it may seem you can set it as low as zero. Then it will only d/l tasks when your main project/s are without work. I have found so far that this works very well for me.

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Message 1859053 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 22:55:49 UTC - in response to Message 1858937.  

. . Did you set the E@H resource priority to 0%? That advice proved successful for me.

I also added E@H, but couldn't find where to set resource proiority....?

I too wasn't able to find the setting in BOINC Manager to change the priority on projects. And I made the mistake of downloading a crap load of tasks from 2 other projects so it might be a couple days before my Windows machine is able to start the Seti tasks it has. But I'm glad to wake up and see new Seti tasks have been downloaded to my 2 best computers!

To set resource priority to other than the default 100, on the E@H web page, under tabs:
Account>Preferences>Project
it's the first field, Resource Share.

Like others, it may be a while before I'm back to pumping SETI, as I ended up with like 5600 tasks between 5 machines before I could get it choked off.
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Message 1859058 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 23:06:55 UTC

1 thing I found out a long time back was to set all my backup projects to use the generic/primary (default) preferences and set that low (0.5 days/0.1extra) while here at SETI I use the other venues for my rigs and set those high (5 days/0.1extra).

This way you won't get flooded by your backup projects when they're called upon. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1859085 - Posted: 2 Apr 2017, 1:05:12 UTC - in response to Message 1859058.  
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Lol wiggo I tried that, had everything set to 0 priority and everything was fine, then wanted a 'little' cache, so set profile to 0.01 days(EDIT: Priority 1), double checked all the web prefs before applying .... the poof ... ARGGG .... damn that local 1.5 day setting .... I'm saving the tasks for Tuesday now, LOL.
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