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Message 1885745 - Posted: 24 Aug 2017, 9:43:27 UTC

Piing Pong II crazy? I just wonder what was more crazy. The USA & USSR keeping the world on tenderhooks for 45 years wondering which one of the two would lose the plot 1st.

Maybe Ping Pong II takes delight on keeping the USA on tenderhooks.
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Message 1886104 - Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 22:55:19 UTC - in response to Message 1885745.  
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North Korea fires 'unidentified projectile'

SEOUL, Aug. 26 (Yonhap) -- North Korea launched what seems to be short-range missiles into the East Sea on Saturday morning, according to South Korea's military.

The North fired several "unidentified projectiles" from the vicinity Gitdaeryong in Gangwon Province at around 6:49 a.m., said the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS).

Those flew more than 250 kilometers in the northeastern direction, it added.

South Korea and U.S. militaries are analyzing additional information.

The North's move was immediately reported to President Moon Jae-in, added the JCS.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2017/08/26/0401000000AEN20170826000651315.html

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Message 1886125 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 0:47:50 UTC

The North fired several "unidentified projectiles" from the vicinity Gitdaeryong in Gangwon Province at around 6:49 a.m., said the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS).


Hmmmm could the statement by the JCS be a warning for Sum Fat Kid that we can tell instantly from where, at what time, and exactly what trajectory his 'projectiles' take means we can probably intercept them and most certainly obliterate the launch site/vehicle.

I think we let him shoot off his fireworks as long as nothing is destroyed and only the life of a few hundred fish are lost. If on the other hand he misjudges or an accident occurs........

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Message 1886144 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 2:07:06 UTC - in response to Message 1886125.  

Hmmmm could the statement by the JCS be a warning for Sum Fat Kid that we can tell instantly from where, at what time, and exactly what trajectory his 'projectiles' take means we can probably intercept them and most certainly obliterate the launch site/vehicle.

Good point.
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Message 1886168 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 6:45:33 UTC
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I hope they aren't depending on the US Navy to intercept those missiles. Right now it doesn't seem like the Navy can even navigate it's best ships on the open ocean at night without getting hit by another ship, let alone a missile.
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Message 1886206 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 14:11:03 UTC - in response to Message 1886202.  

The North fired several "unidentified projectiles" from the vicinity Gitdaeryong in Gangwon Province at around 6:49 a.m., said the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS).


Hmmmm could the statement by the JCS be a warning for Sum Fat Kid that we can tell instantly from where, at what time, and exactly what trajectory his 'projectiles' take means we can probably intercept them and most certainly obliterate the launch site/vehicle.

I think we let him shoot off his fireworks as long as nothing is destroyed and only the life of a few hundred fish are lost. If on the other hand he misjudges or an accident occurs........

No different than a Murdering Maniac, armed with a rifle, while threatening your life. Fires his weapon continuously near you, and you have no place to protect yourself.

Does one say to the Police: Don't immediately stop him. Because he has yet to fire his weapon directly at you?
That's morally & ethically wrong. What happened to your morals & Ethics?
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Message 1886220 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 14:47:18 UTC - in response to Message 1886211.  

What you are advocating is known as a "pre-emptive strike" so any making that , are enablers of evil.
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Message 1886221 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 14:51:33 UTC

No different than a Murdering Maniac, armed with a rifle, while threatening your life. Fires his weapon continuously near you, and you have no place to protect yourself.

Does one say to the Police: Don't immediately stop him. Because he has yet to fire his weapon directly at you?


Totally different, unless the murdering maniac happens to be holding a group of women and children hostage, and he is wearing a bomb with a dead-mans switch, if he dies so do the innocents.

Now that is more like it.
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Message 1886233 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 15:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 1886229.  

As Bob stated:
I hope they aren't depending on the US Navy to intercept those missiles. Right now it doesn't seem like the Navy can even navigate it's best ships on the open ocean at night without getting hit by another ship, let alone a missile.
It would bee nice if the police is fit for purpose.
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Message 1886242 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 15:42:19 UTC - in response to Message 1886240.  

As Bob stated:
I hope they aren't depending on the US Navy to intercept those missiles. Right now it doesn't seem like the Navy can even navigate it's best ships on the open ocean at night without getting hit by another ship, let alone a missile.
It would bee nice if the police is fit for purpose.

If that is all you have...

...then you'd better upgrade your equipment & update the trainimg if you want to remain effective enough.
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Message 1886250 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 15:55:11 UTC - in response to Message 1886245.  

And if one cannot wait years, as was the British and French problem against Hitler, to do this?
It seems you did take years & still blustering .1953 - 2017, long time to listen to bluster :-)
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Message 1886253 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 16:03:34 UTC - in response to Message 1886251.  

And if one cannot wait years, as was the British and French problem against Hitler, to do this?
It seems you did take years & still blustering .1953 - 2017, long time to listen to bluster :-)

Correct. And a interesting study for future historians.

Now to the present danger.
Naw it's still bluster from both sides. It'll only become a danger once they perfected a working ICBM. Until then, it's all down to diplomacy & as you are a history teacher so aware of this fact, in situations like that, diplomacy always fail - Now that is the REAL danger.
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Message 1886260 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 16:28:27 UTC - in response to Message 1886256.  

Understanding your ignorance of history.
You would await a Homicidal Maniac, holding hostages, time to perfect his detonator?
Or a Homicidal Maniac time to perfect his ICBM's?
Interesting.
hahahaha, stop with the funnies Clyde. It seems you need a reminder, do the names Hitler & Stalin mean anything to you?
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Message 1886266 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 16:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 1886265.  

Understanding your ignorance of history.
You would await a Homicidal Maniac, holding hostages, time to perfect his detonator?
Or a Homicidal Maniac time to perfect his ICBM's?
Interesting.
hahahaha, stop with the funnies Clyde. It seems you need a reminder, do the names Hitler & Stalin mean anything to you?

Since I have already stated that Kim is, as Hitler was, the Immediate Threat. With Stalin understood as a Necessary Evil to align with to stop the Immediate Threat Hitler.

What exactly is the context of your question?
& Just how was the immediate threat of Hitler stopped?
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Message 1886292 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 21:52:42 UTC - in response to Message 1886266.  

Understanding your ignorance of history.
You would await a Homicidal Maniac, holding hostages, time to perfect his detonator?
Or a Homicidal Maniac time to perfect his ICBM's?
Interesting.
hahahaha, stop with the funnies Clyde. It seems you need a reminder, do the names Hitler & Stalin mean anything to you?

Since I have already stated that Kim is, as Hitler was, the Immediate Threat. With Stalin understood as a Necessary Evil to align with to stop the Immediate Threat Hitler.

What exactly is the context of your question?
& Just how was the immediate threat of Hitler stopped?

Firebombing of innocent civilians in Dresden ... a war crime.
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Message 1886318 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 23:17:09 UTC - in response to Message 1886293.  
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In diplomatic usage, protecting power refers to a relationship that is initiated when a sovereign state does not have diplomatic representation in another country.
Guess what country have protecting power to two countries west of me in NK?
If diplomacy or negotiations doesn't work we are in deep s**t.
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Message 1886323 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 23:24:35 UTC

Now to get away from the usual claptrap rhetoric of the clueless.

North Korea increases missile tests in response to US-South Korea joint military exercises.

No cheers for either side here.
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Message 1886329 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 23:45:54 UTC - in response to Message 1886323.  

So when Trump said he would unleash "fire and fury like the world has never seen" on North Korea didn't help.
Big surprise!
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Message 1886414 - Posted: 27 Aug 2017, 15:20:12 UTC - in response to Message 1886242.  

As Bob stated:
I hope they aren't depending on the US Navy to intercept those missiles. Right now it doesn't seem like the Navy can even navigate it's best ships on the open ocean at night without getting hit by another ship, let alone a missile.
It would bee nice if the police is fit for purpose.

If that is all you have...

...then you'd better upgrade your equipment & update the trainimg if you want to remain effective enough.


I might point out that neither Naval vessel struck by commercial vessels was navigating 'the open ocean at night' but rather were operating in heavy traffic lanes in the vicinity of two of the most crowded ports in the world. No excuse for the accidents but there was mitigation.

As to upgrading and updating the previous administration has made that a very long process after they decimated the Armed Forces of the United States in the name welfare and Obummercare.

Selling your rifle because the cost of ammunition became a burden makes little difference when the bear breaks down your door........

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Message 1886419 - Posted: 27 Aug 2017, 15:59:29 UTC - in response to Message 1886414.  

As Bob stated:
I hope they aren't depending on the US Navy to intercept those missiles. Right now it doesn't seem like the Navy can even navigate it's best ships on the open ocean at night without getting hit by another ship, let alone a missile.
It would bee nice if the police is fit for purpose.

If that is all you have...

...then you'd better upgrade your equipment & update the trainimg if you want to remain effective enough.


I might point out that neither Naval vessel struck by commercial vessels was navigating 'the open ocean at night' but rather were operating in heavy traffic lanes in the vicinity of two of the most crowded ports in the world. No excuse for the accidents but there was mitigation.

Give me a f'n break. Guided missile destroyer with the best radar money can buy and it can't miss a cargo ship?! What mitigation is it when you know you are going into a heavy traffic area and don't double the watch? What mitigation was there when the captain ran his ship aground on a charted reef? How about when a different captain ran over a fishing boat? And those are just from when tRump took over. He is the top man. His watch, his neck! Court marshal his sorry butt!
The real issue here is arrogance. The US Navy will run its ship where ever it wants because we are the biggest SOB on the water. Chinese are right, our freedom of navigation is dangerous. Dangerous because the US Navy can't steer a ship!

I was having brunch with three sailors and all of them said the same thing. Officers don't know their job. They aren't trained. One even said he had to go nearly to insubordination to get some wet behind the ears officer to realize he was hazarding his vessel with his orders.

I strongly suspect this is because the entire system of selecting and training officers is broken. Take a fast food joint. You don't get hired to be a manager at one, you get hired in at the bottom. You learn every job by doing it. Once you have that knowledge then they can teach you the people skills to be a manager. Armed forces hire in at officer levels people who don't know any of the jobs of the people they manage. That is a disaster waiting to happen, and it has.
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