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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34762 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Non-US Citizens? Not really any of your business. Actually it's sad as it shows that someone has a very limited view of the world, probably so limited that it doesn't go past their front door. Cheers. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
As well as whether Brexit succeeded or failed. Answer available in March 2019 :-) |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Isn't it just amazing how many ways people can interpret a few simple words to mean something totally different to what their actual meaning was meant to be. Yeah, right. You really ought to avoid sarcasm ("the use of irony to mock or convey contempt"), for it to sting, it needs to be targeted at somebody who believes something along the lines of your ironic comment. Not seen anybody suggest "cell-phones" or "the internet" requires reading new meaning into words. The fact of amendments means that some parts of the original constitution have been deemed outdated, a changing view of who is covered by "equal protection", requires that SCOTUS apply the same law differently today than when that amendment passed (and if you don't believe this to be true, then you seem to be advocating for the rest of us to "live in the past" - which kind of removes your ability to say the comment was ironic). Conversely "Yeah, right" is generally sarcastic whenever used, you can hear the contempt when it's uttered, and you know the person is implying something other than what the words mean on their surface (i.e. using irony). Your failure to understand that different people may have a different view of what it means to "pay attention to the constitution" results in you believing that one group advocates not paying any attention to it. It's not up to you to decide what the constitution means for all citizens, for over 200 years, that's been up to SCOTUS, and if you don't like it, get an amendment passed, or get yourself nominated to SCOTUS and convince four of your fellow jurists to agree with you. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
And, please ... have had some experience as a judge beforehand. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Can we get a recount :-) |
Michamus Send message Joined: 31 Aug 16 Posts: 13 Credit: 2,502,762 RAC: 0 |
Then you haven't been paying attention. Orwell wrote 1984, Animal Farm, et al as warnings against communism, nationalism, censorship and surveillance. To say he didn't intend his book to be "treated as a guide" is pretty ignorant. Also, if I had a penny for every far-rightist that compared Obama to Hitler, Fascism and Orwellian works, I'd have enough for a SETI-Server2. It gets old watching the left call the GOP President Hitler and the right call the Dem President Hitler. Both sides crying wolf about how "this is the end, surely Obama/Trump will be the end of democracy and the beginning of a dictatorship!" is getting pretty silly. Our democracy was sold out a long time ago to corporate interests and greed. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Our democracy was sold out a long time ago to corporate interests and greed. Amen |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
obviously you missed the point. Also,this is anything but Democrat/Republican transition as usual, Trump=extremism. Extremism like many of us haven't seen in our lifetime. If you are familiar with history you can see where this is going to go. This is not an issue of politics on the right or left. This is an issue of extremism and totalitarianism. #resist |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
... Yes, removed regulations and uncontrolled capitalism leads to this. You are finally getting it. #resist |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
"guide" as in thing to be followed (e.g. guidebook, guide dog, etc). Hence the quote, and the apparent similarities between it and recent events ("alternative truth"). Perhaps the intention was unclear. While the parallels between Animal Farm and the rise of Soviet Communism are pretty clear, 1984 appears to be more a commentary on totalitarianism, while Homage to Catalonia is quite anti-Fascist (you may know that Orwell joined the anti-Franco forces during the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s). Thanks for the "pretty ignorant" comment. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
But Bobby meant it should not be a guidebook for dictators. And I'm sure, when it came to previous presidents, the percent that drew comparisons to some nasty figure pales in comparison to those making them now about Trump. Our democracy sold to multi-national corporations? NO Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
A spokesman for Signet Classics which currently publishes 1984 said sales have increased almost 10,000 percent since the inauguration and moved noticeably upwards on Sunday. yep, up 10,000%! Find me another time in our history when that happened??? #resist |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Just wondering how Texan's are reacting to Trump giving away a huge hunk of Texas to Mexico? I wonder if they ever realize he did it? Can't build that wall in the middle of the river. Water treaties say you can't upset the natural flow. That wall is going to be at least a half mile north of the river. So 1/2 mile by 1241 miles of river or 620+ square miles of Texas just got put into Mexico! Of course most of that is private land and the owners won't get squat! (How are they going to get to their land and back?!) Top that off, I wonder how many municipal water supplies just got cut off from the river, now that their inlets are in Mexico! You can be sure the US won't get that land back after the wall goes up no matter who the next president is. You can bet Mexico demands more water too! tRump's simplistic ideas are great and at the maximum level of complexity his supporters can understand. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Just wondering how Texan's are reacting to Trump giving away a huge hunk of Texas to Mexico? I wonder if they ever realize he did it? Well, actually if the wall is built 1/2 mile north of the Rio Grande and Customs stations are AT the wall, it would be a rather large net gain. Big Bend National Park is 1252 square miles in area, and the customs entry point is WELL north of that park (by road(TX 118) from the Customs entry point south to the Rio Grande river is 81+ miles -- it is about 6 miles south of Alpine, and about 66 miles north of the park). A number of years ago, around 2006, a group of friends and I went camping in Big Bend National Park. I had been through that Customs station quite a few times, and they hadn't. One of our number was a university student in the USA on a student visa. I told him he had to bring his visa with him. He didn't because we were not going to be crossing the USA/Mexico 'border' at the Rio Grande. Sure enough, on our way back north, he got detained at that Customs check point. We ALL had to wait on him to get processed. They called both the University he attended (not easy because it was over 'spring break' and it was closed) and his nation's embassy in the USA to verify his butt. It took several hours. As to the water... ROFLMAO. You have ANY idea just how polluted the water in the Rio Grande is (from all of the factories on the Mexican side, Maquiladora and otherwise)? There are a lot of signs near that river warning people to not drink water from it and to stay out of it due to the pollution. You are funny. Har har har. I have never had trouble drinking the water in Mexico.. Me drink out of the Rio Grande? Oh hell no. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
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