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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11366 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Demand side economics failed in the 30s. No it did not. Demand side economics failed in the 60s and 70s. And demand side economics is failing today. You are correct on this one because since Reagan we have had trickle down.
That was the wild west from the "reforms" to our financial system culminating in the great recession of 2008. The chickens came home to roost. I wish I were able to live in the simplistic alternate universe you see but the facts and numbers totally belie your viewpoint. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30734 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Become educated about Reagan; Largest tax increase in history! https://thinkprogress.org/10-things-conservatives-dont-want-you-to-know-about-ronald-reagan-7a87723a4f68#.kqqxewn4w Now when you get over your shock that Reagan was a RINO ... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30734 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sarge, No, they will think you want to jail people for 50 years for smoking some weed, jail them for burning a flag, jail them for doing any work on Sunday, refuse trans people a restroom, bar all knowledge of contraception ... execute, yes you are in favor of capital punishment, just not pubic where the people might see it and rise up against you. bobby, Let's. Until the 1960's all the southern states were rabid democrat. Then in the late 60's the Democrats dropped their racism and George Wallace broke off the DixieCrats from the Democrats. By the 1990's all of those racists had left the Democrats forever and joined the Republicans, calling themselves TEA. They had to have some place to spread their racist filth. They are the ones who who didn't want to free the slaves. They are the ones who had to be defeated in our civil war. And they are the ones who wrote the Jim Crow laws. Very correct. They are now the TEA who joined and subverted the republicans. Today's democrat continues to tax and spend. Yes, just like Ronald Reagan! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30734 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Why did Reagan win? Because he was a union boss! |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Sarge, And I'm a republican in a UK context, though that says nothing of which party I'll vote for in the US, what of it? Those in the UK know what is meant even if it sometimes confuses americans. The US does not have primacy for English language use around the world (which is a good thing, many americans are confused about the terms "republic" and "democracy", thought that's be done to death in other threads). If you were to say you're a "conservative Muslim", it could mean something very different to a "conservative Republican". If you want language to be clear, use more words to clarify what you mean. Which rules do the "conservative" Saudis like to follow? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Why did Reagan win? Yep. S.A.G. (screen actors guild)... And he was a Democrat. Democrats used to be the conservative party and the republicans the moderate/liberal party... Then along came Goldwater and LBJ. Republicans went conservative, Democrats went liberal. Reagan did not leave the Democrat party... in his own words, it left him. Now it looks like that the two parties are on their way back... Trump, the Republican nominee, appears to be pandering to the old core-group of the Democrats: organized labor. Clinton, the Democrat nominee, appears to be courting many of the Conservative core-groups. In reality, both the Democrats and the Republicans are the same: Both are authoritarian parties concerned with power and control. Power and control over the hearts and minds of the People. To use an example from literature: IngSoc from Orwell's 1984. In Orwell's 1984, the 3 Party slogans were: 1. War is Peace. 2. Freedom is Slavery. 3. Ignorance is Strength. Sound familiar to today? Thoughtcrime, newspeak, doublethink... I urge each and every one of you to read 1984. If you have already read it, please read it again. Then make up your own mind about what is going on today. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
& brought to the screen by Wilfred Greatorex's 1990 Dubbed 1984+6. Both were great books & interesting. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
I've head that due to the well published and long standing disagreements Hiliary continues to have with her Secret Service detail she will be replacing them with her original private security force. "I HAVE FLYING MONKEYS AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM!" "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I've head that due to the well published and long standing disagreements Hiliary continues to have with her Secret Service detail she will be replacing them with her original private security force. LOL....now THAT surely fits her...... Meow! "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
With all those crooks in the US, it was obvious that one day you would have 2 contending. :-) |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
I've head that due to the well published and long standing disagreements Hiliary continues to have with her Secret Service detail she will be replacing them with her original private security force. More precisely, it is a choice between a potential fascist dictator (Trump) and a mobster (Clinton)... unless we can have an extreme miracle and get one of the other candidates (Johnson, Stein, etc.) elected... https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Sarge, Did Guy SERIOUSLY try to go there with that one? Wow. Don't tell me about blurring lines. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Mark Stevenson Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 1736 Credit: 174,899,165 RAC: 91 |
unless we can have an extreme miracle We could always send Boris J ( our foreign sec ) he was born in New york or somewhere over there so he could be your president / cic Life is what you make of it :-) When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30734 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Did Guy SERIOUSLY try to go there with that one? Yes he did. Seems his world view is ... |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
unless we can have an extreme miracle Uhh... If he was in fact born in NYC, and if the rest of the requirements for 'natural born' citizen were satisfied, he would STILL have to reside in the USA for 14 years to become eligible to be President. US Constitution. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5... No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Clinton is going to win with supporters like this: Oh, I know the truth about what went on during this time. Various friends in high (or low, depending on your point of view) places. Most people don't understand. The Democrats allowed the tax cut portion of Reagan's programs to go through, knowing it was popular and also knowing that his program would fail without the more important rest (government spending cuts) of it getting enacted therefore could be used to discredit Reagan, Republican Party, and conservatism and/or limited Government in general. They won that hand of Political Poker. Demand-side economics is a total, abject failure. Supply-side economics didn't fail. It NEVER GOT completely enacted. Reagan had the correct idea. He just didn't have the 'stones' to get it done. He COULD have, like the occasional State Governor, done it by vetoing everything that came across his desk that didn't match his program. He did not. He was too willing to compromise on principle. It is the main reason I wound up leaving the Republican Party back in the mid-late 1980's. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30734 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And nobody's getting the whole truth about the Ronald Reagan administration and the Democratic Congress of the time. Right, since the democrats were in control they deserve all the credit for all the good that happened while Reagan was in office! See how blind hate works |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30734 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
(government spending cuts) Ah, yes, Republican Military Spending Pork Barrels! :) |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Supply-side economics didn't fail. It NEVER GOT completely enacted. There was no demand-side economics prior to Keynes, and Keynes didn't start influencing US economics until FDR. The Great Depression was the result of supply-side economics. Tried and failed, abysmally. I suspect there are very few economists that advocate a return to demand-side for this very reason. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
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