That would have resulted in impeachment -in other words, kicking him out of office first. Nixon resigned to avoid it, then Ford pardoned to avoid any charges being brought.

(If I missed a detail, I'm too young to know from direct memory.)

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A sitting President cannot be indicted for Criminal Acts

What about Watergate?

Absolutely. The President does not enjoy the protection given to members of Congress. And SCOTUS ruled on that point against Nixon. That's why the office of the special prosecutor could do work.
<ed>Also why Paula Jones could proceed with her suit.

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That would have resulted in impeachment -in other words, kicking him out of office first. Nixon resigned to avoid it, then Ford pardoned to avoid any charges being brought.

(If I missed a detail, I'm too young to know from direct memory.)

Ah, I see. I knew Nixon resigned and was pardoned, but I thought he was indicted while still in office. What you say makes sense. I was pretty young, too, but "Watergate" is etched in my brain. Our local independent tv news channel had 5 minute news recaps once an hour in the evening, and it seemed like that's all I ever heard.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

That would have resulted in impeachment -in other words, kicking him out of office first. Nixon resigned to avoid it, then Ford pardoned to avoid any charges being brought.

(If I missed a detail, I'm too young to know from direct memory.)

Ah, I see. I knew Nixon resigned and was pardoned, but I thought he was indicted while still in office. What you say makes sense. I was pretty young, too, but "Watergate" is etched in my brain. Our local independent tv news channel had 5 minute news recaps once an hour in the evening, and it seemed like that's all I ever heard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon

The Court rejected Nixon's claim to an "absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege of immunity from judicial process under all circumstances."

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/418/683/

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That would have resulted in impeachment -in other words, kicking him out of office first. Nixon resigned to avoid it, then Ford pardoned to avoid any charges being brought.

(If I missed a detail, I'm too young to know from direct memory.)

Ah, I see. I knew Nixon resigned and was pardoned, but I thought he was indicted while still in office. What you say makes sense. I was pretty young, too, but "Watergate" is etched in my brain. Our local independent tv news channel had 5 minute news recaps once an hour in the evening, and it seemed like that's all I ever heard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon

The Court rejected Nixon's claim to an "absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege of immunity from judicial process under all circumstances."

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/418/683/

Well,

Let us see what the Federalist papers have to say on the subject...

Federalist # 69:

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The President of the United States would be liable to be impeached, tried, and, upon conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors, removed from office; and would afterwards be liable to prosecution and punishment in the ordinary course of law.

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http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed69.asp

Federalist # 77:

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We have now completed a survey of the structure and powers of the executive department, which, I have endeavored to show, combines, as far as republican principles will admit, all the requisites to energy. The remaining inquiry is: Does it also combine the requisites to safety, in a republican sense, a due dependence on the people, a due responsibility? The answer to this question has been anticipated in the investigation of its other characteristics, and is satisfactorily deducible from these circumstances; from the election of the President once in four years by persons immediately chosen by the people for that purpose; and from his being at all times liable to impeachment, trial, dismission from office, incapacity to serve in any other, and to forfeiture of life and estate by subsequent prosecution in the common course of law. But these precautions, great as they are, are not the only ones which the plan of the convention has provided in favor of the public security. In the only instances in which the abuse of the executive authority was materially to be feared, the Chief Magistrate of the United States would, by that plan, be subjected to the control of a branch of the legislative body. What more could be desired by an enlightened and reasonable people?

PUBLIUS.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed77.asp

It would seem that it was the intent of the Founding Fathers that the President would be immune from CRIMINAL prosecution *while in office*. Of course, Civil Court cases are another matter entirely, though perhaps it should not be.

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https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Maybe the 'Russian Reset' was intended to provide a dacha in the Urals for Bubba and Hiliary to retire in the event she lost and was indicted.........":D

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Here's a scenario, Hiliary loses, Obama pardons for what's known currently(publicly). Obama leaves office, then the FBI(whose agents are REALLY REALLY pissed off by the hit they have taken to their reps) unleashes the real dirt on both her and Bubba(money laundering, charitable fraud, bribery, treason etc.etc.etc., .............alas, just an old Patriot's pipe dream......the truly evil never pay for their sins.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

MK, I know what Plubis thought he wanted, but they failed to write the document to match their thoughts. They only gave a pass to congress. Document itself is silent on the executive and judicial branches.

I'm certain if POTUS did a murder he would be handcuffed, booked, chrged. If it was a jaywalking, doubt it.

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Kong, you can't go back and start quoting from the federalist papers, especially in these forums. Those words were written by old white men with wigs, wooden teeth and owned slaves; therefore, they are no longer relevant. Besides, today's liberal no longer follows the intent of the law. Today's liberal only goes by the letter of the law. Today's liberal bends the letter of the law because in their minds, words change meanings based on what they think they need to force on everybody else today. And in many cases, just ignores the letter of the law if she's been in a position of authority before and/or if she's on the verge of being placed in another position of authority.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Kong, you can't go back and start quoting from the federalist papers, especially in these forums. Those words were written by old white men with wigs, wooden teeth and owned slaves; therefore, they are no longer relevant. Besides, today's liberal no longer follows the intent of the law. Today's liberal only goes by the letter of the law. Today's liberal bends the letter of the law because in their minds, words change meanings based on what they think they need to force on everybody else today. And in many cases, just ignores the letter of the law if she's been in a position of authority before and/or if she's on the verge of being placed in another position of authority.

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

...then the FBI(whose agents are REALLY REALLY pissed off by the hit they have taken to their reps) unleashes the real dirt on both her and Bubba(money laundering, charitable fraud, bribery, treason etc.etc.etc., ..

I'm not Clairvoyant, really.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/02/fbi_sources_tell_fox_news_indictment_likely_in_clinton_foundation_case.html
It seems they have tapes......without 18 missing minutes......do you REALLY want them back in the W.H.???

Moral, don't make the rank and file FBI Agents look like patsies, it will bite you in the ass.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

With the Clintons the 'Hits' just keep on coming.........they are the hot mess, scandal machine that keeps on giving......

Hiliary must have 'made some friends' in the NYPD as well as the FBI....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLAe3UeddUI&feature=em-share_video_user

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

With the Clintons the 'Hits' just keep on coming.........they are the hot mess, scandal machine that keeps on giving......

Hiliary must have 'made some friends' in the NYPD as well as the FBI....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLAe3UeddUI&feature=em-share_video_user

Indeed:

http://nypost.com/2000/03/06/hillary-rips-rudy-on-nypd-in-wake-of-diallo-slaying/

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

What I find most interesting is the UP NEXT section. It is amazing how much google/youtube knows about how a person thinks and how it will provide search results that give confirmation bias to those thought patterns. Of course they are only interested in maximizing visits which maximizes their advertising revenue, but still it is better that a report from a shrink.

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Of course they are only interested in maximizing visits which maximizes their advertising revenue, but still it is better that a report from a shrink.

,,,,,,,which differs from the 'Main Stream Media' because........

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Of course they are only interested in maximizing visits which maximizes their advertising revenue, but still it is better that a report from a shrink.

,,,,,,,which differs from the 'Main Stream Media' because........

because.. the Main Stream Media is what causes me to visit the shrink :))

because.. the Main Stream Media is what causes me to visit the shrink :))

"Just Say No" (to the Main Stream Media, not the drink...":)D

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

because.. the Main Stream Media is what causes me to visit the shrink :))

"Just Say No" (to the Main Stream Media, not the drink...":)D

We happily say no to Fox News, a main stream media outlet!

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...then the FBI(whose agents are REALLY REALLY pissed off by the hit they have taken to their reps) unleashes the real dirt on both her and Bubba(money laundering, charitable fraud, bribery, treason etc.etc.etc., ..

I'm not Clairvoyant, really.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/02/fbi_sources_tell_fox_news_indictment_likely_in_clinton_foundation_case.html
It seems they have tapes......without 18 missing minutes......do you REALLY want them back in the W.H.???

Moral, don't make the rank and file FBI Agents look like patsies, it will bite you in the ass.

Looks like some people are easily fooled by obvious false stories perhaps planted to draw out security leaks ...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/04/fox-news-apologizes-clinton-report/93300254/

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