Hillary Clinton - the next president of America?

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Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0	Message 1827628 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 1:40:14 UTC - in response to Message 1827626. For the good of the country she should step down. Spare the country of a constitutional crisis. I don't really think she should do that any more than I think Trump should step down because of his own problems. If Clinton is elected and then convicted for a criminal offense, the country can deal with it at that point. For The Good of The Country: Why would she do this to us? Doesn't she care? I think Clinton does care, and I think she made some mistakes that could very well land her in hot water, but I don't think she deliberately mishandled emails. Trump is far from perfect, either. Neither should be President. You're probably right there, Clyde, but under the circumstances, I'd still rather have Clinton and her problems in there, than Trump and his. The mind is a weird and mysterious place ID: 1827628 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79	Message 1827636 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 2:46:17 UTC If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 1827636 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66	Message 1827639 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 3:05:37 UTC - in response to Message 1827636. If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine? Probably and that might not be a bad thing. Maybe Coomey knows what what he's doing, how Machiavellian. ID: 1827639 ·

Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0	Message 1827641 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 3:18:35 UTC - in response to Message 1827639. If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine? Probably and that might not be a bad thing. Maybe Coomey knows what what he's doing, how Machiavellian. Good points. Politics seems like a game of poker, with some chess strategy and the skill and luck of pool thrown in for good measure. The mind is a weird and mysterious place ID: 1827641 ·

Sarge Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79	Message 1827645 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 3:23:43 UTC - in response to Message 1827641. Last modified: 31 Oct 2016, 3:24:11 UTC If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine? Probably and that might not be a bad thing. Maybe Coomey knows what what he's doing, how Machiavellian. Good points. Politics seems like a game of poker, with some chess strategy and the skill and luck of pool thrown in for good measure. More like checkers. And I see obstruction of Kaine as well, as the center rightist gets called a leftie commie pinko socialist by those even further right. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. ID: 1827645 ·

Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0	Message 1827648 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 3:28:01 UTC - in response to Message 1827645. If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine? Probably and that might not be a bad thing. Maybe Coomey knows what what he's doing, how Machiavellian. Good points. Politics seems like a game of poker, with some chess strategy and the skill and luck of pool thrown in for good measure. More like checkers. I'm good at two games - Checkers and the card game, War. Maybe I should run for President next time. ;~) The mind is a weird and mysterious place ID: 1827648 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30652 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1827653 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 4:43:54 UTC - in response to Message 1827636. If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine? Nope. Nothing prevents her from being President even if she is in a jail cell. Of course she would be impeached PDQ if she didn't resign, but that is something different. ID: 1827653 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66	Message 1827654 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 4:49:07 UTC - in response to Message 1827653. If she is elected and then convicted, wouldn't we get Kaine? Nope. Nothing prevents her from being President even if she is in a jail cell. Of course she would be impeached PDQ if she didn't resign, but that is something different. Good point ID: 1827654 ·

W-K 666 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19065 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67	Message 1827678 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 7:15:29 UTC Harry Reid, Senate Minority Leader, accuses Comey of breaking the "Hatch Act". From Wiki. The Hatch Act of 1939, officially An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities, is a United States federal law whose main provision prohibits employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president, vice-president, and certain designated high-level officials of that branch, from engaging in some forms of political activity. The law was named for Senator Carl Hatch of New Mexico. It was most recently amended in 2012. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/10/30/harry-reid-says-comey-may-have-broken-the-law-by-disclosing-new-clinton-emails/ ID: 1827678 ·

JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1	Message 1827721 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 13:53:41 UTC Nope. Nothing prevents her from being President even if she is in a jail cell. Lot's of precedent there, both Hiliary and the current 'Thief in Chief' have lots of 'Chicago Politics' in their background. 'Blogo' is still serving the people of the great state of Illinois from a Federal Prison Cell just 8 miles from my front door. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> ID: 1827721 ·

W-K 666 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19065 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67	Message 1827728 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 15:26:32 UTC How did Comey know that the emails on that computer 'appear to be pertinent' on Friday, but didn't get the warrant to examine them until Sunday. Something smells fishy. Either the FBI have looked at them illegally or he doesn't know they are pertinent. It cannot be both. ID: 1827728 ·

KWSN - MajorKong Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0	Message 1827731 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 15:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 1827729. How did Comey know that the emails on that computer 'appear to be pertinent' on Friday, but didn't get the warrant to examine them until Sunday. Something smells fishy. Either the FBI have looked at them illegally or he doesn't know they are pertinent. It cannot be both. Time will tell. Unfortunately, as with Bush Sr. similar situation, we don't have the time. Perhaps, as with Bush Sr.: "Many Republicans claimed that the indictment made by special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh against former Reagan-era Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger the weekend before the 1992 election cost Bush a second term. The indictment, later thrown out," "...a special prosecutor raised new charges against Bush in the Iran-Contra probe, prompting Clinton to claim he was running against a "culture of corruption." http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/flashback-clinton-cheered-11th-hour-indictment-that-doomed-bush-reelection/article/2606000 The same will happen. Nahh... The indictment didn't cost Bush the Elder the 1992 election... It was Bush the Elder's line at the 1988 Republican Convention... Read my Lips... No new Taxes... Well.... guess what... In the 1990 budget agreement, Bush the Elder compromised with the Democrats, and agreed to some tax increases... THAT is what doomed Bush the Elder's reelection in 1992... He BROKE his promise. In the 1992 presidential election campaign, Pat Buchanan repeatedly cited the pledge as an example of a broken promise in his unsuccessful challenge to Bush in the Republican primaries. In the general election, Democratic nominee Bill Clinton, running as a moderate, also cited the quotation and questioned Bush's trustworthiness. Bush lost his bid for re-election to Clinton. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_my_lips:_no_new_taxes https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. ID: 1827731 ·

JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1	Message 1827740 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 16:53:40 UTC James Comey is having the biggest attack of conscience since Judas regretted taking the 30 talents of silver....... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> ID: 1827740 ·

W-K 666 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19065 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67	Message 1827743 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 17:00:24 UTC - in response to Message 1827740. James Comey is having the biggest attack of conscience since Judas regretted taking the 30 talents of silver....... Now you are living in la-la land. Who ever heard of a FBI Director having a conscience. ID: 1827743 ·

JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1	Message 1827753 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 18:18:49 UTC Last modified: 31 Oct 2016, 18:51:26 UTC "The president does not believe that Director Comey is intentionally trying to influence the outcome of an election. Also long time Clinton supporter (used to work for Bubba) Doug Schoen, wrote today "I can no longer support Hiliary due to the fact she will be under constant investigation if not outright indictment her entire term"(sic)....... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> ID: 1827753 ·

JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1	Message 1827778 - Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 22:01:53 UTC Too late to edit but THIS JUST IN....... Chicago Tribune writes Democrats should ask Hiliary to step down...... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-hillary-clinton-emails-kass-1030-20161028-column.html ....and Chicago newspapers should know a lot about covering Political corruption.....another rat leaves the ship...... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> ID: 1827778 ·

shizaru Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 1130 Credit: 1,967,904 RAC: 0	Message 1827862 - Posted: 1 Nov 2016, 11:15:28 UTC Last modified: 1 Nov 2016, 11:31:09 UTC I found this quite interesting considering I'm trying to follow the Podesta leaks yet was still unaware of half the stuff on this list: 18 revelations from Wikileaks' hacked Clinton emails: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37639370 ---- Edit: OK so John McAfee ain't the most reliable of sources but while Clinton's broken record is going, "Russia, Russia, Russia!", McAfee says it's Iran. (payback for Stuxnet?) http://www.csoonline.com/article/3133735/data-breach/john-mcafee-iran-hacked-the-dnc-and-north-korea-hacked-dyn.html ID: 1827862 ·

JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1	Message 1827886 - Posted: 2 Nov 2016, 0:21:17 UTC A sitting President cannot be indicted for Criminal Acts. If she loses the FBI would be smart to wait until after the Inauguration to charge her if they find something 'chargeable'. You can bet Trump wouldn't pardon her. If she tries to pardon herself if she wins, there would be a Constitutional crisis to end all. I think the American voter is gonna hand her a great big surprise next Tuesday. Wanna bet she skips the country if she loses? Kinda like Roman Polanski escaped prosecution..... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> ID: 1827886 ·

Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0	Message 1827891 - Posted: 2 Nov 2016, 0:48:29 UTC - in response to Message 1827886. A sitting President cannot be indicted for Criminal Acts What about Watergate? The mind is a weird and mysterious place ID: 1827891 ·

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