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Message 1824907 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 13:35:28 UTC - in response to Message 1824884.  

sigh. well, he is/was a truck driver. guess that says it all!

What an arrogant statement. Thought better of you, but it seems you're just another overbearing Yank.

You use an ism and you don't like one being pointed out at you?
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Message 1824909 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 13:40:45 UTC - in response to Message 1824907.  

sigh. well, he is/was a truck driver. guess that says it all!

What an arrogant statement. Thought better of you, but it seems you're just another overbearing Yank.

You use an ism and you don't like one being pointed out at you?

& what "ism" would that be? Sexism? For pointing out some facts regarding women in power?

Take Maggie Thatcher. She was a capable & qualified woman, yet the OP couldn't stand her. Fair enough, she stated her reasons why, but it does look like feminism only wants the women they choose to gain power & not all women!
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Message 1824913 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 13:51:16 UTC - in response to Message 1824912.  

Another one who can't see the problem!

Maggie Thatcher - a woman
OP - a woman

Yet one disliked the other immensely.

Don't make sense.
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Message 1824917 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 14:04:06 UTC - in response to Message 1824916.  

Desiring a level playing field is power?!

That makes sense.

The problem then is what happens when it's achieved? Is vital changes made?

Nope, just further cockups, so no difference then between men or women in power. The day that changes for the better, maybe we can all look forward to a better future.

As for despising others, nope, just like pointing out the cockups & useless soundbites.
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Message 1824923 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 14:52:31 UTC

"And Justice for............all?"

I wonder what the effect would be on the Election if several dozen top FBI Agents resigned publicly as 'whistle blowers'.........

"Former U.S. Attorney: Agents See FBI Chief Comey as a ‘Dirty Cop’"

http://spectator.org/former-u-s-attorney-agents-see-fbi-chief-comey-as-a-dirty-cop/

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Message 1824935 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 15:30:43 UTC

Ze Vealthy Aryan people are zuperior.........Heil Hiliary!

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Message 1824942 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 15:48:21 UTC - in response to Message 1824909.  
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sigh. well, he is/was a truck driver. guess that says it all!

What an arrogant statement. Thought better of you, but it seems you're just another overbearing Yank.

You use an ism and you don't like one being pointed out at you?

& what "ism" would that be? Sexism? For pointing out some facts regarding women in power?

Take Maggie Thatcher. She was a capable & qualified woman, yet the OP couldn't stand her. Fair enough, she stated her reasons why, but it does look like feminism only wants the women they choose to gain power & not all women!

When your example is all of one sex, yes it is sexism. Then you come out with the exception that proves the rule.

So we found a group you belong to and use it as an example. Wear it as you force others to wear a group.
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Message 1824943 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 15:48:59 UTC - in response to Message 1824909.  

sigh. well, he is/was a truck driver. guess that says it all!

What an arrogant statement. Thought better of you, but it seems you're just another overbearing Yank.

You use an ism and you don't like one being pointed out at you?

& what "ism" would that be? Sexism? For pointing out some facts regarding women in power?

Take Maggie Thatcher. She was a capable & qualified woman, yet the OP couldn't stand her. Fair enough, she stated her reasons why, but it does look like feminism only wants the women they choose to gain power & not all women!

What you don't know is whether Es would have supported Thatcher had her opponent been as unqualified as Drumpf.

Not disputing that. Just making an observation.
5 women make it to the top & what do they do...mess up big time.


Cinton doing what's best for her.
Merkel doing what's best for her.
May doing what's best for her.
Sturgeon doing what's best for her.
Wood doing what's best for her.


Are you suggesting Bill is a woman? Because the only Clinton to "make it to the top" so far is Bill. If not, don't you think you're being a little hard on the actions undertaken by Hillary should she win the election? Or is it a given that as Hillary is a woman, she will "mess up big time"?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1824956 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 16:52:26 UTC - in response to Message 1824935.  

Ze Vealthy Aryan people are zuperior.........Heil Hiliary!

Don't you have that about face, isn't it Trump that has Aryan ancestry. Blond with paternal family originally from Mosel Valley.
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Message 1824993 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 19:46:24 UTC - in response to Message 1824956.  

Ze Vealthy Aryan people are zuperior.........Heil Hiliary!

Don't you have that about face, isn't it Trump that has Aryan ancestry. Blond with paternal family originally from Mosel Valley.


I am so tired of hearing 'Aryan' this... and 'Aryan' that... Most people, it seems, do NOT know what 'Aryan' *IS*...

It is a linguistic family, also known as Indo-Aryan.

Indo-European -> Indo-Iranian -> Indo-Aryan.




Of note, about the only significant Indo-Aryan language spoken in Europe is... Romani. Some class it as a 'central' Indo-Aryan language (orange). Others as a northwestern Indo-Aryan language (dark blue).

Of all the peoples of Europe, only the Romani have a legitimate claim on being 'Aryan'. This is highly ironic in light of Hitler's 'Final Solution'. The Romani were targeted, along with the Jews (and some others), for extermination.
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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1824995 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 19:55:14 UTC - in response to Message 1824943.  

Or is it a given that as Hillary is a woman, she will "mess up big time"?

Hmmm...

...let's see...

...Benghazi...

...-mail server...

...naw, can't be can it? They too small an incident to register on the "big" scale?
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Message 1825015 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 21:13:19 UTC

My (apparently bad) attempt at humor was meant as a jab to the attitude of the Clinton machine rather than any ethnic, linguistic or regional aspects.

I apologize for any umbrage taken and stand humbly corrected and chastised by Major Kong...";D>

Perhaps something like 'You vill show us your paperz or ve vill haf to take your veapon.' would have been more in line.

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Message 1825030 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 22:23:19 UTC
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New FBI release on Clinton email probe refers to 'Shadow Government' -- (CNBC)


Hmm.... Interesting...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/17/hillary-clinton-foundation-donors-lobbyists-state-department/92285652/

Double hmm...

Thats two mainstream media reports that are questioning Clinton's... activities.

CNBC and USATODAY.

Everyone STILL think that it is nothing but some silly right-wing, sexist conspiracy?
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1825043 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 22:57:32 UTC - in response to Message 1825030.  

New FBI release on Clinton email probe refers to 'Shadow Government' -- (CNBC)


Hmm.... Interesting...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/17/hillary-clinton-foundation-donors-lobbyists-state-department/92285652/

Double hmm...

Thats two mainstream media reports that are questioning Clinton's... activities.

CNBC and USATODAY.

Everyone STILL think that it is nothing but some silly right-wing, sexist conspiracy?


But the FBI decided not to prosecute her, so it can't be that bad, right?
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Message 1825055 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 23:34:35 UTC

But the FBI decided not to prosecute her, so it can't be that bad, right?
I certainly hope that was sarcasm coming from someone as intelligent as you Gordon.

Since undocumented accusations seem to be the norm in this campaign here's something interesting making the 'rounds'.


We are told to be concerned about Donald's locker room talk! When it comes to "knowing" our candidates, don't you think the media should be the honest broker? Oh, emphasizing "honesty." This fits a pattern that has been whispered about for her 25 years of "Service".


WOW- INTERESTING. Hillary choked, but after she CHOKED - what really happened? WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AT THE NBC COMMANDER IN CHIEF (COC) PRESIDENTIAL FORUM WITH MATT LAUER? DEMOCRAT HILLARY CLINTON’S BEHIND THE SCENES TIRADE AFTER NBC’s MATT LAUER ASKED CLINTON THE ONE QUESTION SHE HAD NOT PRE-APPROVED. VETERAN NBC CAMERAMAN: ‘YOU REALLY HAD TO SEE THIS TO BELIEVE IT...SHE CAME APART – LITERALLY UNGLUED; SHE IS THE MOST FOUL MOUTHED WOMAN I’VE EVER HEARD...AND THAT VOICE AT SCREECH LEVEL...AWFUL’ ”SHE LOOKED SO ENRAGED THAT WE ALL THOUGHT HER HEAD WOULD EXPLODE...IT WAS A FULL MELT-DOWN AND THEN SHE SCREAMED SHE’D GET THAT F - - ING LAUER FIRED FOR THIS. IT WENT ON FOR AT LEAST A HALF HOUR; WE ALL THOUGHT THE EMS WOULD BE THE NEXT CALL.


NBC Associate Producer of Forum: Behind the scenes, NBC technicians and cameramen at the Wednesday night, Commander-in-Chief Forum (Sept 7) report that Hillary Clinton was so angry and incensed that she had been ‘blind-sided’ by one question she was not prepared for and had not approved. “When her time in front of the cameras ended, Clinton shook the hand Lauer extended to her and smiled once more for the wide camera shot and then Hillary proceeded to pick up a full glass of water and threw it at the face of her assistant and the screaming started. She was in a full meltdown and no one on her staff dared speak with her – she went kind of manic and didn’t have any control over herself at that point. How these people work with this woman is amazing to me. Most of the small military audience was cordoned off, their seating not close to Mrs. Clinton but certainly they heard her screaming because it was loud... she really didn’t seem to care who heard any of it.


Republican Donald Trump also appeared in a separate telecast from Hillary’s and arrived with his two sons but no entourage or assistants in tow. The NBC cameramen involved in his segment said he was a ‘true gentleman’ and Trump and his sons spoke to everyone and thanked them for inviting him to speak: “It was a pleasure to answer your questions, Matt." Hillary Clinton’s segment was much different. According to people working on the sidelines, “When Matt posed the one legitimate question about the FBI investigation concerning her homemade server and the unsecured emails, we could see she was beginning to boil and her eyes looked to pop.” “It was toward the end of her interview so she was becoming unglued by the time Lauer finished with questioning. Afterwards, Hillary went ballistic, throwing a huge tantrum and screaming at her staff, “you f - - - ing idiots, you were supposed to have this thing set up for me and you’ve screwed it up!


If that f - - ing bastard wins we all hang from nooses! Lauer’s finished...and if I lose it’s all on you ass-holes for screwing this up.” Clinton finally stormed off the military ‘set’ and the assistant producer said she was screaming that she wanted to talk to, “the idiot who set this mess up...you do not blindside me! Ever!" Clinton continued to demand to speak with executives at Comcast, parent company to NBC Universal. Her dozen or more aides were visibly disturbed and tried to calm her down when she started shaking uncontrollably. That did not stop her from demanding an executive, “on the phone, now!” She was told the executive-in-charge of the forum was ready to talk with her and was led away by two rather large aides who appeared to help her walk. The TV executives got the message with all of the censuring headlines that followed over the next couple of days when the media turned on Lauer for behaving in a “partisan” manner and “being grossly unfair and critical of the former SOS.”


Matt Lauer was heavily criticized on air by the Clinton campaign the rest of the week with most of the mainstream media joining in. The media appeared to frame Matt’s one serious question as the Clinton campaign was doing...”an unfair and partisan attack on Mrs. Clinton.” Matt Lauer is still facing major backlash following his 23 minutes with Hillary Clinton. Privately, many reporters said Matt handed the Democrat nominee the expected softball questions, but made the decision to ask about the emails because, “the American people deserve an answer from the former secretary of state." Calls were made to New York Times, Washington Post and Huffington Post and Twitter executives with orders to “Crush Matt Lauer.” As you can easily see with all the headlines from the media sources, they did as they were told by the Clinton campaign. Hillary also screamed that she would be “treated with respect at the debates or heads will roll.” Staffers at the Clinton campaign report that they fear her wrath and uncontrollable outbursts, and one described Hillary as “an egotistical psychopath.”


Since Hillary does not allow any staff to have cell phones when she is in their presence, no footage is available, but Hillary will never let this rest. She has made it clear that she wants Matt Lauer to be “persona non grata - for putting her on the spot.” Interim DNC Chairman Donna Brazile, the first black woman to hold the position, was singled out by Hillary during the rant. She screamed at Donna, “I’m so sick of your face. You stare at the wall like a brain dead buffalo, while letting that f - - - ing Lauer get away with this. What are you good for, really? Get the f - - - to work janitoring this mess. Do I make myself clear?” A female NBC executive said that Donna Brazile looked at Mrs. Clinton and never flinched, which seemed to enrage Hillary all the more. The executive continued, “It was the most awful and terrible...and racist display – such a profane meltdown I have ever witnessed from anyone, and I will never forget it. That woman should never see the inside of the oval office I can tell you that. She was unhinged and just continued to verbally abuse everyone; she was out of control.”


No sources quoted, but it's out there.

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Message 1825061 - Posted: 18 Oct 2016, 0:08:31 UTC - in response to Message 1825055.  

But the FBI decided not to prosecute her, so it can't be that bad, right?
I certainly hope that was sarcasm coming from someone as intelligent as you Gordon.


Maybe a little sarcastic, but I'm just not a conspiracy theory type. On the other hand, I definitely think the lobbying activities are a problem.
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Message 1825083 - Posted: 18 Oct 2016, 1:11:52 UTC - in response to Message 1825055.  

But the FBI decided not to prosecute her, so it can't be that bad, right?
I certainly hope that was sarcasm coming from someone as intelligent as you Gordon.

Since undocumented accusations seem to be the norm in this campaign here's something interesting making the 'rounds'.


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No sources quoted, but it's out there.


Seriously? And she must've found all the hidden hot mics and slammed them to destruction.

This is also includes any ZOOM recorders, small and easy to hide.

C'mon folks, there are better things to attack her on than unsubstantiated claims. Same goes for Trump.
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Message 1825094 - Posted: 18 Oct 2016, 1:49:24 UTC

You can't get alot more left handed reporting than CNBC, (Except for sister MSNBC), So it is a little surprising to see the following:
A new trove of interview summaries and notes from the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails lays out a series of allegations that could prove fodder for future attacks on the Democratic presidential nominee.
The 100 pages, released Monday morning, include claims that Clinton "blatantly" disregarded protocol. Other claims include that a group of powerful State Department employees attempted to coordinate a document release, and that a department official asked for a "quid pro quo" related to the former secretary of state's emails.
The documents, part four of four to be released by the FBI, include notes and interview summaries that may illuminate more about the bureau's decision not to recommend Clinton be prosecuted for her actions.
Many Republicans have criticized that decision, but FBI Director James Comey has repeatedly insisted the move was apolitical.
"I want the American people to know we really did this the right way. You can disagree with us, but you cannot fairly say we did it in any kind of political way," Comey said in July.

hmmm.. what would the FBI consider more "political way" than timing than waiting until a few weeks before national election? Too late to allow critical inspection by the voters.

but wait, there's more!

Separately, one claim from the FBI documents that was receiving attention online was that one interviewee said there was a "stark difference" between Clinton's "obedience to security and diplomatic protocols" and that of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Clinton, the interviewee said, "blatantly" disregarded such protocols, including her frequent refusal to attend foreign diplomatic functions with the local ambassador.

"This frequently resulted in complaints by ambassadors who were insulted and embarrassed by this breach of protocol," the interview summary said, adding that the subject claimed that "Clinton's protocol breaches were well known throughout Diplomatic Security and were 'abundant.'"

—NBC News and Reuters contributed to this report.
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Message 1825096 - Posted: 18 Oct 2016, 1:51:35 UTC

Off=topic, but did you SERIOUSLY just denigrate the hand with which I write? I've seen no sign of you as a Christian fundamentalist, so where's this sinister view coming from about lefties being sinister???
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You can't get alot more left handed reporting than CNBC, (Except for sister MSNBC), So it is a little surprising to see the following:
A new trove of interview summaries and notes from the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails lays out a series of allegations that could prove fodder for future attacks on the Democratic presidential nominee.
The 100 pages, released Monday morning, include claims that Clinton "blatantly" disregarded protocol. Other claims include that a group of powerful State Department employees attempted to coordinate a document release, and that a department official asked for a "quid pro quo" related to the former secretary of state's emails.
The documents, part four of four to be released by the FBI, include notes and interview summaries that may illuminate more about the bureau's decision not to recommend Clinton be prosecuted for her actions.
Many Republicans have criticized that decision, but FBI Director James Comey has repeatedly insisted the move was apolitical.
"I want the American people to know we really did this the right way. You can disagree with us, but you cannot fairly say we did it in any kind of political way," Comey said in July.

hmmm.. what would the FBI consider more "political way" than timing than waiting until a few weeks before national election? Too late to allow critical inspection by the voters.

but wait, there's more!

Separately, one claim from the FBI documents that was receiving attention online was that one interviewee said there was a "stark difference" between Clinton's "obedience to security and diplomatic protocols" and that of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Clinton, the interviewee said, "blatantly" disregarded such protocols, including her frequent refusal to attend foreign diplomatic functions with the local ambassador.

"This frequently resulted in complaints by ambassadors who were insulted and embarrassed by this breach of protocol," the interview summary said, adding that the subject claimed that "Clinton's protocol breaches were well known throughout Diplomatic Security and were 'abundant.'"

—NBC News and Reuters contributed to this report.


Critical inspection by the voters? What?!?
Those that think she's corrupt, remain convinced.
A small percentage might be swayed to that as a new opinion. No inspection.
Some will vote for her knowing she's corrupt but, knowing the Ls and Gs have no chance and that Trump stands a chance of being far far worse.
And then that small percentage of her acolytes.
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