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Message 1830590 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 20:34:04 UTC - in response to Message 1830569.  

I have no idea what a server grade raid card might cost.

A quick Google search on
server grade raid card
Yields many results of $200 to $400.

Unless you're looking at a 24-channel card, then that's well over $1,000. For example.. Areca ARC-1883ix-24-8SA is ~$1,500.

But it all depends on what will work with the motherboard, what will fit in the server, and how many ports are needed.

I've had good experiences with Areca though. I've got a puny little ARC-1210 that I bought in 2007 and have had a 4x500gb RAID-5 going on it ever since. I plan on upgrading the HDDs to 2 or 4TB drives at some point. Research I've done on the next model up (8-port, IOP334) says that one can do about 450MB/sec worth of throughput, so I figure I should be able to get 375-400 on mine without having to spend more money on a newer card.
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Message 1830593 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 20:48:01 UTC - in response to Message 1830590.  

Unless you're looking at a 24-channel card, then that's well over $1,000.

That should well be affordable for this project.
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Message 1830601 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 22:08:37 UTC - in response to Message 1830593.  

Unless you're looking at a 24-channel card, then that's well over $1,000.

That should well be affordable for this project.

There goes half their yearly budget...

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Message 1830605 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 22:26:57 UTC - in response to Message 1830601.  

This is the most recent I found.
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Message 1830617 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 22:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 1830605.  

The last one I saw must have been removed.

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Message 1830620 - Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 23:11:06 UTC
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Well if past donation drives are any indication, a new RAID card is a total cake walk to gather the funds, purchase it, and ship it directly to SSL. If the community managed to spec, build, and ship several servers a few years ago, I'm sure it can come up with a RAID card.

We just need some info of what exactly is needed (specs, brands/models that are known to not work in Linux, etc) to be able to organize something like that.
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Message 1830635 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 0:58:41 UTC - in response to Message 1830569.  

I have no idea what a server grade raid card might cost.

A quick Google search on
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Yields many results of $200 to $400.



. . That's about what I thought.

. . Hell, if I new exactly what they needed I might even buy one and have it shipped to them :)

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Message 1830639 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 1:07:54 UTC - in response to Message 1830590.  


A quick Google search on
server grade raid card
Yields many results of $200 to $400.

Unless you're looking at a 24-channel card, then that's well over $1,000. For example.. Areca ARC-1883ix-24-8SA is ~$1,500.

But it all depends on what will work with the motherboard, what will fit in the server, and how many ports are needed.

I've had good experiences with Areca though. I've got a puny little ARC-1210 that I bought in 2007 and have had a 4x500gb RAID-5 going on it ever since. I plan on upgrading the HDDs to 2 or 4TB drives at some point. Research I've done on the next model up (8-port, IOP334) says that one can do about 450MB/sec worth of throughput, so I figure I should be able to get 375-400 on mine without having to spend more money on a newer card.


. . Hi CO,

. . At that price level I would need to save my pennies for quite a while :(. Oh well, back to plan A, we need about 200 sponsors who are good for (now) $10 each :)

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Message 1830640 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 1:08:59 UTC - in response to Message 1830593.  

Unless you're looking at a 24-channel card, then that's well over $1,000.

That should well be affordable for this project.


. . I am not at all sure they have a budget as big as you think :).

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Message 1830645 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 1:36:21 UTC - in response to Message 1830566.  
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I hope the servers aren't having hardware problems. Seems like down-time happens almost everyday during this past week. At least the peak donation period is coming soon near the end of the year. Maybe we can get some more details on what might need replacing and any donation goals.

Eric says the raid card in carolyn is the culprit.
Getting rather futzy.


. . Hi Kitty man

. . I have translated "futzy" as "flaky", but what can it cost for a new raid card? I can kick in $2, only need another couple of hundred guys :)

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I have no idea what a server grade raid card might cost.

It looks like Carolyn is one of the HP servers that we did a funding drive for in 2010. So the exact RAID card is uses is probably readily available at server recycling shops for <$50. The questions is do they want replacement parts or look into other server options.
As I recall one things they were looking to do was reduce their server footprint. So a newer, or a segmented box might be able to replace a few of their systems and save on their monthly rack bill.
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Message 1830653 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 2:50:21 UTC - in response to Message 1830645.  

As I recall one things they were looking to do was reduce their server footprint. So a newer, or a segmented box might be able to replace a few of their systems and save on their monthly rack bill.

Perhaps they're going to repurpose the ntpckr server, now that they're heading in a different direction. I notice that it's finally vanished from the SSP, after gathering dust down at the bottom of the server list for years.
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Message 1830655 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 2:53:03 UTC

I wouldn't find it unbelievable to want to move over to some type of blade server type setup.

Or see how well these server-grade Zen CPUs are going to be and maybe build a 2p system with 64c/128t and 512gb of RAM and you can run one 4U machine that has 10+ VMs on it. All the big enterprises are moving to virtualization.. this project would likely be able to do that, as well. Just a thought to throw out there.
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Message 1830675 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 6:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 1830655.  

I'm thinking there needs to be a maximum limit for the number of characters in a User's name...
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Message 1830678 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 6:35:22 UTC - in response to Message 1830675.  

I'm thinking there needs to be a maximum limit for the number of characters in a User's name...

Do long names make servers panic? Enquiring minds want to know ...
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Message 1830679 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 6:45:20 UTC - in response to Message 1830675.  

I'm thinking there needs to be a maximum limit for the number of characters in a User's name...

I agree ..... that user is just being obnoxious.
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Message 1830680 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 6:47:31 UTC - in response to Message 1830679.  

I agree ..... that user is just being obnoxious.

Guess I missed it somewhere.
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Message 1830682 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 6:51:34 UTC - in response to Message 1830680.  

I agree ..... that user is just being obnoxious.

Guess I missed it somewhere.

His long name screws up the formatting of the forum threads to be just about unreadable. I have blocked any further posts.
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Message 1830683 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 7:02:49 UTC - in response to Message 1830682.  

I agree ..... that user is just being obnoxious.

Guess I missed it somewhere.

His long name screws up the formatting of the forum threads to be just about unreadable. I have blocked any further posts.

Ah, found it. Did you get his other two aliases he lists as friends as well?
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Message 1830689 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 7:58:19 UTC - in response to Message 1830683.  

I agree ..... that user is just being obnoxious.

Guess I missed it somewhere.

His long name screws up the formatting of the forum threads to be just about unreadable. I have blocked any further posts.

Ah, found it. Did you get his other two aliases he lists as friends as well?

No, I hadn't paid attention to his "friends". Thanks for pointing out those other alias'. There blocked now too.
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Message 1830693 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 9:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 1830645.  


It looks like Carolyn is one of the HP servers that we did a funding drive for in 2010. So the exact RAID card is uses is probably readily available at server recycling shops for <$50. The questions is do they want replacement parts or look into other server options.
As I recall one things they were looking to do was reduce their server footprint. So a newer, or a segmented box might be able to replace a few of their systems and save on their monthly rack bill.


. . That sounds like a good long term goal but right now a cheap, even if short term, fix for the d/l problems would be a good thing.

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