Are you left wing or right wing?

Message boards : Politics : Are you left wing or right wing?
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2

AuthorMessage
Profile Sarge
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Aug 99
Posts: 12273
Credit: 8,569,109
RAC: 79
United States
Message 1776304 - Posted: 5 Apr 2016, 2:34:02 UTC - in response to Message 1775951.  

Let's settle this once and for all. Try to answer honestly. I am actually curious about whether Americans who call themselves centrists are actually right wing.

There's a simple test to tell whether you’re more left-wing or right-wing

You'll never guess what I came out as (actually, you will)


What the heck?
Why are we being told what the outcome should be before we can find the link to the test???
Terrible terrible terrible methodology!
Shall I now predict what the test will say about me, without taking it, and why I believe so based on what I do know about myself?
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
ID: 1776304 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 30651
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1776311 - Posted: 5 Apr 2016, 3:34:37 UTC - in response to Message 1776304.  

What the heck?
Why are we being told what the outcome should be before we can find the link to the test???
Terrible terrible terrible methodology!
Shall I now predict what the test will say about me, without taking it, and why I believe so based on what I do know about myself?

I know, being told how to answer the questions before you take the test? Why that is positively Drumpf thinking.

Never mind that my "first thought" on seeing the pictures never matched, or came close to the given choices. Then again I've always been orthogonal to traditional right/left demagoguery.
ID: 1776311 · Report as offensive
Profile William Rothamel
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Oct 06
Posts: 3756
Credit: 1,999,735
RAC: 4
United States
Message 1776314 - Posted: 5 Apr 2016, 4:07:38 UTC

There's a simple test to tell whether you’re more left-wing or right-wing


Most of us are middle-of-the-bird

ID: 1776314 · Report as offensive
Profile KWSN - MajorKong
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 00
Posts: 2892
Credit: 1,499,890
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1776371 - Posted: 5 Apr 2016, 14:38:04 UTC - in response to Message 1775951.  

Let's settle this once and for all. Try to answer honestly. I am actually curious about whether Americans who call themselves centrists are actually right wing.

There's a simple test to tell whether you’re more left-wing or right-wing

You'll never guess what I came out as (actually, you will)


Sigh...

This whole left/right dichotomy again...

It is not really a good thing. 'Left' and 'Right', when it comes to politics, mean different things to different people (especially to people from different 'nations'/'regions').

And Left/Right is not the only 'axis' in the political spectrum, not even really the most important one in my opinion.

Another axis of (in my opinion) greater importance is the libertarian/authoritarian axis. There are others, but to get into those axes would be somewhat more off-topic.

This sort of 'political quizzes' are highly biased in most cases, reflecting the biases of their creators.

Furthermore, on the left/right axis (indeed on all the axes), a person might hold opinions on some things that might be considered leftist, and opinions on other things that might be considered rightist.

Now then, your opinions about me will doubtlessly be different, but here is how I, personally, see myself.

On the Libertarian/Authoritarian axis, with Libertarian being +10 and Authoritarian being -10, I would rate myself at about a 6 or a 7. Call it 6.5.

On the Right/Left axis, with Extreme Right being a +10 and Extreme Left being a -10, I would rate myself at about a 1.

I would consider anything on these scales between a -3 and a +3 as being a Centrist.

So, I consider myself to be a Minarchist (as opposed to an Anarchist, I realize that there has to be SOME Government, I just prefer it to be as small as possible) Libertarian Centrist that leans slightly to the Right.

You (and others around here) probably think differently about my 'politics', and that is totally fine. What matters to me is what I think about myself.


As far as your linked test goes, it states that I am right wing, then it states the following weasel-words...

People who have a tendency to support right wing policies were almost ten percent more likely to remember an image with negative connotations.


So, this 'test' calls me right wing solely because I gave a 'negative' answer on some (but note, not ALL) of those images.... really??? Bah... I call Bulls**t on that test.

Think about it... grilled bugs at that market in Cambodia... of COURSE it is a chance to get sick... call it life experience... I have eaten food from markets like that around the world... And gotten sick on more than one occasion. And I am not complaining about the insects, but about a number of other reasons. Sanitation... Different seasonings than I am used to... etc... etc...
ID: 1776371 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19063
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1776422 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 0:41:41 UTC - in response to Message 1776418.  

Another axis of (in my opinion) greater importance is the libertarian/authoritarian axis.

The most important.

Authoritarian: Those that believe People need to be controlled.

Libertarian: Those that believe Power needs to be controlled.

Note: Authoritarian's believe they are Superior to 'The People', and will be ones Controlling.

So where does it put me, I see the need that Power needs to be controlled, but looking around I see a lot of people that really need to be controlled more.
ID: 1776422 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 30651
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1776424 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 1:22:58 UTC - in response to Message 1776422.  

Another axis of (in my opinion) greater importance is the libertarian/authoritarian axis.

The most important.

Authoritarian: Those that believe People need to be controlled.

Libertarian: Those that believe Power needs to be controlled.

Note: Authoritarian's believe they are Superior to 'The People', and will be ones Controlling.

So where does it put me, I see the need that Power needs to be controlled, but looking around I see a lot of people that really need to be controlled more.

The control of power is the control of people. It is control of people who accumulate power be it via influence or capital.
ID: 1776424 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24879
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1776426 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 1:31:41 UTC - in response to Message 1776424.  

The control of power is the control of people. It is control of people who accumulate power be it via influence or capital.

So not much control been in effect for 40 years at least
ID: 1776426 · Report as offensive
Profile William Rothamel
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Oct 06
Posts: 3756
Credit: 1,999,735
RAC: 4
United States
Message 1776429 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 1:58:57 UTC

The New York primary is coming up!!

ID: 1776429 · Report as offensive
Darth Beaver Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Aug 99
Posts: 6728
Credit: 21,443,075
RAC: 3
Australia
Message 1776490 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 6:09:19 UTC - in response to Message 1776371.  

libertarian/authoritarian

Kong I don't get it even after reading Clyde's explain

libertarian is just another way of saying right wing

And authoritarian is the same as a Fascist ! Extreme right wing !!!

or Dictator Commy Marxist/Stalinist ........

Maybe your just middle of the road like most extreme on 1 or 2 things but generally if things are explained middle of the road.

Maybe time to be Greenie mate !! surprising to find many of them are former Liberal types feed up with the extremes in thee old party

Not so much the old tree huggers of the 60-70-80's
ID: 1776490 · Report as offensive
OzzFan Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 02
Posts: 15691
Credit: 84,761,841
RAC: 28
United States
Message 1776529 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 9:57:44 UTC - in response to Message 1776490.  
Last modified: 6 Apr 2016, 10:04:44 UTC

libertarian is just another way of saying right wing

And authoritarian is the same as a Fascist ! Extreme right wing !!!


You're thinking only in terms of a single line; left or right. Not everything fits neatly into such simple terms. Think of politics as an X,Y axis



You can be Liberal Authoritarian or Conservative Authoritarian (fascist). You can also be a Civil Libertarian or Civil Conservative. As Major Kong said, there are ways to get more detailed, but in general this X,Y axis is the most simple to use that at least alludes to there being more than left or right.
ID: 1776529 · Report as offensive
Darth Beaver Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Aug 99
Posts: 6728
Credit: 21,443,075
RAC: 3
Australia
Message 1776555 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 11:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 1776529.  
Last modified: 6 Apr 2016, 11:21:47 UTC

libertarian is just another way of saying right wing

And authoritarian is the same as a Fascist ! Extreme right wing !!!


You're thinking only in terms of a single line; left or right. Not everything fits neatly into such simple terms. Think of politics as an X,Y axis


Where do I start .....

Liberal .......Conservative ???

liberal right or left

Conservative ? right or left

as for Less authoritarian wtf !! The please explain of the word for you to digest .....

Authoritarianism is marked by "indefinite political tenure" of the ruler or ruling party (often in a one-party state) or other authority. The transition from an authoritarian system to a more democratic form of government is referred to as democratization.


Dictator , Emperor ....

other wise you got no ...OO's ...when hard decisions are needed not what you picture says .

Sometimes me thinks to much Uni Tilt's the Neurons in some peoples brains and they over think things :)

And can't tell B/s when they read it :)
ID: 1776555 · Report as offensive
Darth Beaver Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Aug 99
Posts: 6728
Credit: 21,443,075
RAC: 3
Australia
Message 1776612 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 14:21:03 UTC

ozzfan you have to remember that here in ozz the Liberal and conservatives are one in the same thing

Hence the Liberal National Country Party or LNP ( they dropped the Country )

so your graph is flowed

Political smarts : why would they drop the Country out of there name , and it's not because they are a coalition ?...

Clue , Labour is working class , are there working class in the Country , blue collar as apposed to white collar workers ?

Being cynical again I is ......
ID: 1776612 · Report as offensive
OzzFan Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 02
Posts: 15691
Credit: 84,761,841
RAC: 28
United States
Message 1776613 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 14:25:27 UTC - in response to Message 1776612.  

ozzfan you have to remember that here in ozz the Liberal and conservatives are one in the same thing

Hence the Liberal National Country Party or LNP ( they dropped the Country )

so your graph is flowed


I'm very well aware the terms are different for other countries, just as Major Kong stated. It doesn't meant he chart is flawed, it simply means you have to modify the verbiage to fit your definitions. You need to learn to be more flexible in how you digest information and not be so strict in your interpretations.
ID: 1776613 · Report as offensive
Darth Beaver Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Aug 99
Posts: 6728
Credit: 21,443,075
RAC: 3
Australia
Message 1776625 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 14:58:28 UTC - in response to Message 1776613.  

ozzfan you have to remember that here in ozz the Liberal and conservatives are one in the same thing

Hence the Liberal National Country Party or LNP ( they dropped the Country )

so your graph is flowed


I'm very well aware the terms are different for other countries, just as Major Kong stated. It doesn't meant he chart is flawed, it simply means you have to modify the verbiage to fit your definitions. You need to learn to be more flexible in how you digest information and not be so strict in your interpretations.


ozziefan nothing wrong with the verbage mate .

John Howard coined the phase wedge politics

Make something simple into something complicated to confuse , baffle and cause arguments.

Gaddafi used that tactic for over 20 years in his government to keep power and I see wedge politics you guys fall for the varbdge yourself by complicating thing's that don't need to be .

While your arguing and anilising this and that the ruling class walk all over you
ID: 1776625 · Report as offensive
Profile JaundicedEye
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Mar 12
Posts: 5375
Credit: 30,870,693
RAC: 1
United States
Message 1776634 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 15:32:35 UTC - in response to Message 1776276.  
Last modified: 6 Apr 2016, 15:38:40 UTC

It seems Bobby is correct, Glenn makes every thread about the Second Amendment to the US Constitution, even when the poster he is replying to is a Canadian citizen.
...Please take care to correctly attribute authorship, I don't believe Bobby would ever say that about a soul mate.... https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77605&postid=1775877

[edit] The test might be a bit more unbiased if one of the answer buttons displayed wasn't pre-highlighted. Looks a little rigged to me if you actually want quantifiable results instead of pure drivel.

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
ID: 1776634 · Report as offensive
OzzFan Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 02
Posts: 15691
Credit: 84,761,841
RAC: 28
United States
Message 1776641 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 15:51:49 UTC - in response to Message 1776625.  

John Howard coined the phase wedge politics

Make something simple into something complicated to confuse , baffle and cause arguments.


It's not wedge politics. It's called being more accurate and nuanced. A great deal is lost when you want to make everything black and white, left or right. There is more to the world than those simple terms. To borrow from Bobby's signature, "I think you'll find it's more complicated than that..."
ID: 1776641 · Report as offensive
OzzFan Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 02
Posts: 15691
Credit: 84,761,841
RAC: 28
United States
Message 1776642 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 15:54:25 UTC - in response to Message 1776634.  

[edit] The test might be a bit more unbiased if one of the answer buttons displayed wasn't pre-highlighted. Looks a little rigged to me if you actually want quantifiable results instead of pure drivel.


Did anyone here actually think this was meant to be a serious test? I think it was very tongue-in-cheek with a kernel of truth. I see several people crying foul bs when all of us should be smarter than this.
ID: 1776642 · Report as offensive
Profile Sarge
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Aug 99
Posts: 12273
Credit: 8,569,109
RAC: 79
United States
Message 1776718 - Posted: 6 Apr 2016, 21:52:56 UTC - in response to Message 1776642.  

[edit] The test might be a bit more unbiased if one of the answer buttons displayed wasn't pre-highlighted. Looks a little rigged to me if you actually want quantifiable results instead of pure drivel.


Much in the last few days to respond to, but I'll respond to just this for now. I am crying foul about the article describing the research and then linking to the test. We did not see a research journal article about the test, nor the test as originally presented. So, yes, the version Es linked us to was probably a bit tongue-in-cheek.
Did anyone here actually think this was meant to be a serious test? I think it was very tongue-in-cheek with a kernel of truth. I see several people crying foul bs when all of us should be smarter than this.

Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
ID: 1776718 · Report as offensive
Darth Beaver Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Aug 99
Posts: 6728
Credit: 21,443,075
RAC: 3
Australia
Message 1776747 - Posted: 7 Apr 2016, 0:05:08 UTC
Last modified: 7 Apr 2016, 0:05:52 UTC

Alas guys you should give the lady a bit more credit than that as she has brought a few righties out of there closet tongue in check maybe but I suspect her motives are bit more clever than what you give her credit for :)
ID: 1776747 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 · 2

Message boards : Politics : Are you left wing or right wing?


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.