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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Let's settle this once and for all. Try to answer honestly. I am actually curious about whether Americans who call themselves centrists are actually right wing. What the heck? Why are we being told what the outcome should be before we can find the link to the test??? Terrible terrible terrible methodology! Shall I now predict what the test will say about me, without taking it, and why I believe so based on what I do know about myself? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What the heck? I know, being told how to answer the questions before you take the test? Why that is positively Drumpf thinking. Never mind that my "first thought" on seeing the pictures never matched, or came close to the given choices. Then again I've always been orthogonal to traditional right/left demagoguery. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
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KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Let's settle this once and for all. Try to answer honestly. I am actually curious about whether Americans who call themselves centrists are actually right wing. Sigh... This whole left/right dichotomy again... It is not really a good thing. 'Left' and 'Right', when it comes to politics, mean different things to different people (especially to people from different 'nations'/'regions'). And Left/Right is not the only 'axis' in the political spectrum, not even really the most important one in my opinion. Another axis of (in my opinion) greater importance is the libertarian/authoritarian axis. There are others, but to get into those axes would be somewhat more off-topic. This sort of 'political quizzes' are highly biased in most cases, reflecting the biases of their creators. Furthermore, on the left/right axis (indeed on all the axes), a person might hold opinions on some things that might be considered leftist, and opinions on other things that might be considered rightist. Now then, your opinions about me will doubtlessly be different, but here is how I, personally, see myself. On the Libertarian/Authoritarian axis, with Libertarian being +10 and Authoritarian being -10, I would rate myself at about a 6 or a 7. Call it 6.5. On the Right/Left axis, with Extreme Right being a +10 and Extreme Left being a -10, I would rate myself at about a 1. I would consider anything on these scales between a -3 and a +3 as being a Centrist. So, I consider myself to be a Minarchist (as opposed to an Anarchist, I realize that there has to be SOME Government, I just prefer it to be as small as possible) Libertarian Centrist that leans slightly to the Right. You (and others around here) probably think differently about my 'politics', and that is totally fine. What matters to me is what I think about myself. As far as your linked test goes, it states that I am right wing, then it states the following weasel-words... People who have a tendency to support right wing policies were almost ten percent more likely to remember an image with negative connotations. So, this 'test' calls me right wing solely because I gave a 'negative' answer on some (but note, not ALL) of those images.... really??? Bah... I call Bulls**t on that test. Think about it... grilled bugs at that market in Cambodia... of COURSE it is a chance to get sick... call it life experience... I have eaten food from markets like that around the world... And gotten sick on more than one occasion. And I am not complaining about the insects, but about a number of other reasons. Sanitation... Different seasonings than I am used to... etc... etc... |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19063 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Another axis of (in my opinion) greater importance is the libertarian/authoritarian axis. So where does it put me, I see the need that Power needs to be controlled, but looking around I see a lot of people that really need to be controlled more. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Another axis of (in my opinion) greater importance is the libertarian/authoritarian axis. The control of power is the control of people. It is control of people who accumulate power be it via influence or capital. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
The control of power is the control of people. It is control of people who accumulate power be it via influence or capital. So not much control been in effect for 40 years at least |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
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Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
libertarian/authoritarian Kong I don't get it even after reading Clyde's explain libertarian is just another way of saying right wing And authoritarian is the same as a Fascist ! Extreme right wing !!! or Dictator Commy Marxist/Stalinist ........ Maybe your just middle of the road like most extreme on 1 or 2 things but generally if things are explained middle of the road. Maybe time to be Greenie mate !! surprising to find many of them are former Liberal types feed up with the extremes in thee old party Not so much the old tree huggers of the 60-70-80's |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
libertarian is just another way of saying right wing You're thinking only in terms of a single line; left or right. Not everything fits neatly into such simple terms. Think of politics as an X,Y axis You can be Liberal Authoritarian or Conservative Authoritarian (fascist). You can also be a Civil Libertarian or Civil Conservative. As Major Kong said, there are ways to get more detailed, but in general this X,Y axis is the most simple to use that at least alludes to there being more than left or right. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
libertarian is just another way of saying right wing Where do I start ..... Liberal .......Conservative ??? liberal right or left Conservative ? right or left as for Less authoritarian wtf !! The please explain of the word for you to digest ..... Authoritarianism is marked by "indefinite political tenure" of the ruler or ruling party (often in a one-party state) or other authority. The transition from an authoritarian system to a more democratic form of government is referred to as democratization. Dictator , Emperor .... other wise you got no ...OO's ...when hard decisions are needed not what you picture says . Sometimes me thinks to much Uni Tilt's the Neurons in some peoples brains and they over think things :) And can't tell B/s when they read it :) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
ozzfan you have to remember that here in ozz the Liberal and conservatives are one in the same thing Hence the Liberal National Country Party or LNP ( they dropped the Country ) so your graph is flowed Political smarts : why would they drop the Country out of there name , and it's not because they are a coalition ?... Clue , Labour is working class , are there working class in the Country , blue collar as apposed to white collar workers ? Being cynical again I is ...... |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
ozzfan you have to remember that here in ozz the Liberal and conservatives are one in the same thing I'm very well aware the terms are different for other countries, just as Major Kong stated. It doesn't meant he chart is flawed, it simply means you have to modify the verbiage to fit your definitions. You need to learn to be more flexible in how you digest information and not be so strict in your interpretations. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
ozzfan you have to remember that here in ozz the Liberal and conservatives are one in the same thing ozziefan nothing wrong with the verbage mate . John Howard coined the phase wedge politics Make something simple into something complicated to confuse , baffle and cause arguments. Gaddafi used that tactic for over 20 years in his government to keep power and I see wedge politics you guys fall for the varbdge yourself by complicating thing's that don't need to be . While your arguing and anilising this and that the ruling class walk all over you |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
It seems Bobby is correct, Glenn makes every thread about the Second Amendment to the US Constitution, even when the poster he is replying to is a Canadian citizen....Please take care to correctly attribute authorship, I don't believe Bobby would ever say that about a soul mate.... https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77605&postid=1775877 [edit] The test might be a bit more unbiased if one of the answer buttons displayed wasn't pre-highlighted. Looks a little rigged to me if you actually want quantifiable results instead of pure drivel. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
John Howard coined the phase wedge politics It's not wedge politics. It's called being more accurate and nuanced. A great deal is lost when you want to make everything black and white, left or right. There is more to the world than those simple terms. To borrow from Bobby's signature, "I think you'll find it's more complicated than that..." |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
[edit] The test might be a bit more unbiased if one of the answer buttons displayed wasn't pre-highlighted. Looks a little rigged to me if you actually want quantifiable results instead of pure drivel. Did anyone here actually think this was meant to be a serious test? I think it was very tongue-in-cheek with a kernel of truth. I see several people crying foul bs when all of us should be smarter than this. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
[edit] The test might be a bit more unbiased if one of the answer buttons displayed wasn't pre-highlighted. Looks a little rigged to me if you actually want quantifiable results instead of pure drivel. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Alas guys you should give the lady a bit more credit than that as she has brought a few righties out of there closet tongue in check maybe but I suspect her motives are bit more clever than what you give her credit for :) |
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