After you remove all the incorrect right wing copycat articles that don't follow the original N.Z. news report there's nothing left in that Bing search that's even close to the proper truth.

New figures show gun owners are holding back on handing in their firearms, because they're waiting to hear how much the Government will pay for them.

Figures released to Newstalk ZB by the New Zealand Police showed that, as of Sunday night, only 530 guns had been handed in since the ban on semi-automatic guns was finalised in early April.

There are around 250,000 licenced firearm holders in New Zealand and it's estimated as many as 300,000 guns could now be illegal.

It comes as gun owners are waiting on any details around compensation for their guns.

Police Minister Stuart Nash said in April that regulations, including a price list, would be considered by Cabinet by the end of May.

Nicole McKee, Secretary of the Council of Licensed Firearm Owners, told Heather du Plessis-Allan that there had not been any communication from Government about prices for the buyback.

"If they are being serious about their considerations and ensuring that there is fair and reasonable compensation, then firearm owners will wait a bit longer to make sure it is just and it is fair when it is received."

The same thing happened here to start with until the "price list" came out and when they found out here that their firearms were worth at least 3 times their cost value they started flooding in. Also remember that it's only semi-auto firearms that have been listed as illegal weapons and not all firearms as some of you Yanks like to tell the rest of the world. ;-)

So The People of New Zealand are waiting for the price to go up on the buyback...... up to three times the amount of the value of the guns.....and the funds used to 'buy back' the guns are taken from the treasury of the Government of New Zealand......which is tax money paid by The People of New Zealand into that treasury.

Let that sink in....... .....must be some real economic geniuses there....

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The Australian government increased the Medicare levy from 1.5% to 1.7% of income for one year to finance the gun buyback program for illegal weapons and I'd imagine that the N.Z. government will do something very similar.

So how's the scaremongering going in that alternative multiverse of yours?

But think of the savings in future years.

"Researchers conservatively estimate that gun violence costs the American economy at least $229 billion every year, including $8.6 billion in direct expenses such as for emergency and medical care,”

But think of the savings in future years.

"Researchers conservatively estimate that gun violence costs the American economy at least $229 billion every year, including $8.6 billion in direct expenses such as for emergency and medical care,”

Now why would people who can't even fact check themselves first before posting rubbish have any thoughts about the cost of such a thing? :-O

But think of the savings in future years.

"Researchers conservatively estimate that gun violence costs the American economy at least $229 billion every year, including $8.6 billion in direct expenses such as for emergency and medical care,”

Now why would people who can't even fact check themselves first before posting rubbish have any thoughts about the cost of such a thing? :-O

Perhaps because they also professes to be fiscally conservative, but of course they are actually fiscally far to the left of socialists, never ever paying for what they purchase.

https://apnews.com/71f23cc05b734d42995bb342676eddda

TORONTO (AP) — Gunfire broke out and a stampede ensued as fans celebrated at a rally Monday for the NBA champion Raptors, leaving four people shot and thousands fleeing less than a block from where the players and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau sat on stage.

Three people were arrested and two guns were recovered, Toronto police said, and investigators did not discuss a possible motive for the attack.

It's gangs as usual... by the way this was about four blocks from where I was working.
Edit: There were two stabbings with four victims as well. I cynically joked earlier in the day I wondered when the shootings and stabbings would be.

Make that five shot with a further six arrests. This one was two blocks from where I am working now.

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https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734346016/10-people-injured-in-mass-shooting-outside-pennsylvania-nightclub

Just before 2 a.m. on Thursday, multiple gunshots rang out as people exited the Deja Vu nightclub in Allentown, Pa.

Police say 10 people who were gathered on or near the sidewalk were shot and hospitalized.

"All victims are expected to survive," Allentown Police Capt. Bill Lake told NPR in an interview.

No one is in custody.

"This does not appear to be an indiscriminate shooting," Lehigh County District Attorney Jim Martin and Allentown Police Chief Tony Alsleben said in a joint statement emailed to NPR. They added, "it appears that at least one individual was a target."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-48729661

A man aged in his 20s has been shot dead at a block of flats in south-west London.

The victim was discovered seriously injured when armed police were called to Exeter House, Watermill Way, Feltham, at 23:05 BST on Friday.

He was treated by paramedics but died at the scene shortly after. His next of kin have been told.

Scotland Yard said nobody else was injured in the shooting and no arrests have been made.

A post-mortem examination will take place "in due course", the force said.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/2-Shot-at-San-Jose-Home-Suspect-Holed-Up-Inside-Police-511715961.html

A suspect fatally shot four people in a San Jose house before turning the gun on himself in what's being described as a murder-suicide, police said Monday.

One man and three women were identified as the victims who were shot inside the home located along the 500 block of Habbitts Court, police said. The suspect was identified as a male.

"It appears the suspect shot the four victims before committing suicide by shooting himself," police said in a statement.

Officers responded to the scene around 8:40 p.m. and found "several" family members running away from the house, according to police. Officers learned that the suspect shot at least one person and that other victims were still possibly trapped inside.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-guns/supreme-court-strikes-down-stiff-firearms-penalties-idUSKCN1TP1YR

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Conservative Justice Neil Gorsuch sided with the U.S. Supreme Court’s four liberal members on Monday in striking down as unconstitutionally vague a law imposing stiff criminal sentences for people convicted of certain crimes involving firearms.

In the 5-4 decision, the court ruled against President Donald Trump’s administration in declaring that the federal law in question was written too vaguely and thus violated the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of due process. The court’s four other conservative justices dissented, including Brett Kavanaugh, who like Gorsuch was appointed by Trump.

The court invalidated the firearms convictions of two men prosecuted in Texas on a variety of charges for their roles in a series of 2014 gas station robberies in Texas. Although the robbers were armed, no shots were fired.

The law, the most recent version of which was passed by Congress in 1986, imposed additional penalties on anyone who committed certain violent crimes while in possession of a firearm.

https://apnews.com/c33417690c4b4ea2aab0f82c0e7c9816

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — Police continued Sunday to investigate a shooting at a Baton Rouge nightclub that left seven people injured, even as officials in Louisiana’s capital city pledged to do more to fight gun violence after several high-profile shootings.

Local news outlets report gunfire strafed the inside and parking lot of the Stadium Ultralounge & Bar early Saturday, apparently after a fight in which video footage showed one man breaking a bottle over another man’s head.

At least two people were seriously wounded at the Stadium Ultralounge & Bar, although not all injuries may stem from gunshots, authorities said. No arrests have been made and officials on Saturday urged people who might know something to contact them.

Macy Bell, 21, of Baton Rouge, was at the club when the shooting broke out. She told The Advocate that the fighting began when someone smashed a bottle over another person’s head. Bell remembers the shooting went on for “about five minutes.” The gunfire continued outside.

https://apnews.com/c33417690c4b4ea2aab0f82c0e7c9816

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — Police continued Sunday to investigate a shooting at a Baton Rouge nightclub that left seven people injured, even as officials in Louisiana’s capital city pledged to do more to fight gun violence after several high-profile shootings...

... the fighting began when someone smashed a bottle over another person’s head. Bell remembers the shooting went on for “about five minutes.” The gunfire continued outside.

So for The Great America, what is it to be?

The continued power of your NRA and continuing the 'fun' days of the Wild West?

Or, dismantling the NRA and their deadly toys?

(Or everyone could be educated better but that one is likely too hard and costly...)


Which option and how?

Only in the USA?...
Martin

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... the fighting began when someone smashed a bottle over another person’s head.

Let's dismantle the bottle makers and those purveyors of liquids that use them.........only then will we be truly safe.

Don't like our Constitution? Don't come here.

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Well, your constitution did prohibit the sale of alcohol for a while, so there's a precedent.

And many religions (Methodist Christians, Muslims) also discourage the consumption of alcohol. The beginnings of a trend, there?

The US Constitution? There are exceptions where the "right to bear arms" don't apply.
This incident is one of them.

Louisiana law generally prohibits a person from intentionally carrying a firearm, openly or concealed, while on the premises of an alcoholic beverage outlet, which includes any commercial establishment in which alcoholic beverages are sold in individual servings for consumption on the premises, whether or not such sales are a primary or incidental purpose of the business of the establishment.

... the fighting began when someone smashed a bottle over another person’s head.

Let's dismantle the bottle makers and those purveyors of liquids that use them.........only then will we be truly safe.

Don't like our Constitution? Don't come here.

Good distraction argument there...

The bottle didn't put bullet holes in seven people.


Note that the USA constitution was formulated in the days of slavery and civil war. Hopefully, time has moved on for the better since those 'heady' days?

Or is the USA forever lost in the fun folklore of a Hollywood created Wild West?...

Or, get real?


Only in the USA...
Martin

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See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

https://apnews.com/c33417690c4b4ea2aab0f82c0e7c9816

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — Police continued Sunday to investigate a shooting at a Baton Rouge nightclub that left seven people injured, even as officials in Louisiana’s capital city pledged to do more to fight gun violence after several high-profile shootings.

Local news outlets report gunfire strafed the inside and parking lot of the Stadium Ultralounge & Bar early Saturday, apparently after a fight in which video footage showed one man breaking a bottle over another man’s head.

At least two people were seriously wounded at the Stadium Ultralounge & Bar, although not all injuries may stem from gunshots, authorities said. No arrests have been made and officials on Saturday urged people who might know something to contact them.

Macy Bell, 21, of Baton Rouge, was at the club when the shooting broke out. She told The Advocate that the fighting began when someone smashed a bottle over another person’s head. Bell remembers the shooting went on for “about five minutes.” The gunfire continued outside.

It is obvious that thoughts and prayers are having the desired effect.

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Well, your constitution did prohibit the sale of alcohol for a while, so there's a precedent.

And many religions (Methodist Christians, Muslims) also discourage the consumption of alcohol. The beginnings of a trend, there?

https://gizmodo.com/one-in-five-americans-get-hurt-by-someone-elses-drinkin-1836015431

One in Five Americans Get Hurt By Someone Else's Drinking Every Year