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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19114 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Between 2009 and 2016, sixty three percent of mass shootings happened within private homes. - Louis Klarevas in "Rampage Nation: Securing America from Mass Shootings" For any figures to stand up you need to make absolute definitions of "mass shootings" and "Mass Murder" , including location, and gun-free zones. I suspect you are the FBI definition of "Mass Murder" as the definition of "Mass Shooting". They are not the same. edit] And your quote, obviously taken from the same source as the one you always believe, got his. “98 percent of mass public shootings have occurred in places where guns are banned, just so you understand.†|
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://news.yahoo.com/video/yahoo-news-yougov-poll-trump-133749842.html Voters who cast their ballots for Donald Trump in 2016 are more likely than voters who cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton to say that they have “cheated†on social distancing during the coronavirus pandemic — and much less likely to say they will continue to obey their state’s lockdown order as long as it’s in effect. Have we found the first quick test of potential to be criminal and hence denied access to a firearm? GOP views? (Obviously not universal but statistically significant) We have heard time and time again that criminals will never give up their guns. Is this the same as cheating on social distancing? Are they simply describing who they know best, themselves? Perhaps it is time to add a question on the universal gun tax registration form for political party affiliation. Then depending on the answer require a MMPI to be attached before issuance. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19114 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Just got a link to this, includes the latest updates for April 2020. I've not read it yet so making no observations. Rand Corp. - Gun Policy in America Facts About the Effects of Gun Policies Are Elusive but Important |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Just got a link to this, includes the latest updates for April 2020. I've not read it yet so making no observations.https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy.html I just lightly reviewed the link and would be interested in hearing your opinion after you have done so. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
https://spectator.org/mass-shootings-in-gun-free-zones/ Using an ultra right wing not for profit to proliferate an agenda. Never saw that one coming. 1950 and 2018. That seems kinda arbitrary. Since gun laws and restrictions didn't become a big thing until the NRA went nuclear in the early 1970's with the all Guns are good and its not guns that kill people its people routine. It's funny how a gun will never kill anyone unless someone pulls the trigger. Fun fact. Not having guns achieves the same result without having to have a gun attached to the sentence, and the number 97.8 % seems a bit odd. but lets go with it. Yes churches schools and concerts are gun free zones. Whats your point other than guns are bad. Also of note is the fact that having a gun in public doesn't anyone more safe that not having it. There are laundry lists of people that found having a gun was a detriment in a live fire situation and they were likely to get targeted by either the police or other "good" gun guys. So no not good. I can personally speak about an octagenarian that was eating at a local restaurant and had his revolver in plain sight. The idea that that weapon made him or his wife safe is stupendously stupid. A high school student could have easily disarmed and murdered both of them without even trying very hard. It's pointless to have the weapon if you are incapable of keeping it from someone trying to take it. BTW that restaurant was full. It's not like he needed to protect himself or me from anyone. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
I can personally speak about an octagenarian that was eating at a local restaurant and had his revolver in plain sight. .....if no one accosted, assaulted or violently approached them during your observation I would have to say the revolver had the intended effect..... .....but of course, that's just 'anecdotal'.......... I suggest you go to the link to the Rand Corporation study provided by WK-666 and thoroughly read the section on 'Concealed Carry'. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34984 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
On the "Effects of Concealed-Carry Laws", on the may increase side violent crime but inconclusive and on may decrease side "We found no qualifying studies showing that concealed-carry laws decreased any of the eight outcomes we investigated.". So? |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
First-Time Buyers Explain Why Coronavirus Drove Them to Gun Stores in Record Numbers "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34984 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yep, there are just far too many crazies over there and your leader is the pinnacle of them all. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Maybe Sweden could help the US with more guns. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/05/26/country-rifle-sweden-rainier-arms-bravo-company/ |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-manufacturers-join-coronavirus-fight US gun manufacturers join coronavirus fight by reproducing PPE Aren't guns considered PPE? Or did they just admit they have no Personal Protective Equipment function! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
AR-15 not needed to bring down a deer From the link.... ..."The ban is controversial politically. A petition against the ban started by Conservative MP Glen Motz in December has more than 175,000 e-signatures. " "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34984 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Go Trudeau!!! It's finally time to bring Canada into line with most of the rest of the Commonwealth. ;-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34984 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
If COVID-19 doesn't get you, a neighbour will. :-( |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Bet they don't know they are communist: Karl Marx wrote: “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.†|
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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