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Message 2046106 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 0:30:07 UTC - in response to Message 2046097.  
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He will never answer a direct question.
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Message 2046169 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 11:46:35 UTC

Is there any hard evidence or reliable referenced research that shows having a population saturated with lethal weaponry to hand somehow reduces crime or even somehow reduces deadly crime?


Or...obviously 'removing lethal weaponry' doesn't stop mass shootings, and as the gun haters LOVE to parrot.......'even if it saves 'JUST ONE LIFE', it's worth having the 2nd Amendment.

At least WE in America have the CHOICE whether or not to own a firearm as PPE, (the same as a mask).

Since the Fairy Tale of 'removing all guns from society' cannot be accomplished as proven by many countries with deadly results(Charly Hebdo, The Buffalo Club-Darwin Au., Hanau, Germany, and the synopsis.......



and most recently, Nova Scotia,.........how about trying something different? Like giving citizens in the rest of the world the RIGHT to CHOOSE to defend themselves OR NOT, in the most appropriate manner and with the same technology being used against them.

How's THAT for a direct answer?

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Message 2046180 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 13:26:55 UTC

No wonder that......


......defenseless people are being shot to death like unarmed fish in a barrel?

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Message 2046201 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 18:46:01 UTC - in response to Message 2046169.  

Why don't you redo that chart with military operation mass shootings removed.

Also post a chart on the percent of people shot per year based on population.

You might also try a chart on percent of people shot per year based on fraction of gun ownership. That should be a real eye opener.
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Message 2046207 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 20:03:09 UTC - in response to Message 2046201.  

Why don't you redo that chart with military operation mass shootings removed.

Yes. And why didn't the mass armed US population engaged in the mass shootings in Las Vegas and Florida to help the police?
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Message 2046223 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 22:14:42 UTC - in response to Message 2046207.  

Why don't you redo that chart with military operation mass shootings removed.

Yes. And why didn't the mass armed US population engaged in the mass shootings in Las Vegas and Florida to help the police?

Indeed those odds were very unfair. That lone gunman was out-gunned 58-to-one and 49-to-one for those massacres, even if everyone else were still asleep!

Rhetorically: So what happened?!...


Or do we need to train up every USA citizen to become a 'Batman' of 'Gotham City' to get themselves up to minimum gun spec?

Obviously not.

And where is all the 'Batman' super-high-tech personal amour vital 'PPE'?...



The USA guns should be scrapped just as the lynchings of old have been scrapped.

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Message 2046225 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 22:19:25 UTC

Military mass shootings are as much a part of 'our one world' as everything else, why leave them out?

Were the people killed in those 'military' shootings allowed to possess firearms to defend themselves?

Same as saying 'leave the holocaust out of WWII casualties, because they weren't on the battlefield..........

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Message 2046228 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 22:39:48 UTC - in response to Message 2046225.  

Oh dear. Is it a civil war again in the US?
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Message 2046229 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 22:52:04 UTC - in response to Message 2046228.  

Oh dear. Is it a civil war again in the US?
It's on the cards with the attitude that some display on a regular basis. :-(
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Message 2046230 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 23:18:02 UTC - in response to Message 2046229.  
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Oh dear. Is it a civil war again in the US?
It's on the cards with the attitude that some display on a regular basis. :-(
Doesn't matter really. But for heavens sake, doesn't American civilians still understand that guns are not for defending people? At best they work as a deterrent. But they are built to kill people.
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Message 2046231 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 23:30:40 UTC - in response to Message 2046225.  

Military mass shootings are as much a part of 'our one world' as everything else, why leave them out?
At least some of those "gun" deaths were actually by bomb. But hey I get it, a 155mm recoilless rifle with a W-48 shell is still a gun, don't you agree?
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Message 2046235 - Posted: 21 Apr 2020, 23:50:30 UTC - in response to Message 2046231.  

But hey I get it, a 155mm recoilless rifle with a W-48 shell is still a gun
Some agree. We Swedes for instance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l54mOCs_qdA
Oh... That's a military weapon.
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Message 2046308 - Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 11:47:11 UTC

I'm surprised that a citizen wearing a face mask, gloves & a sidearm hasn't been shot because a copper or security guard was in fear of their life.
Can't happen? Won't happen?
Anything is possible in America.
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Message 2046316 - Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 12:19:21 UTC

Doesn't matter really. But for heavens sake, doesn't American civilians still understand that guns are not for defending people? At best they work as a deterrent. But they are built to kill people.

moomin, we DO understand that...........which makes them the 'deterrent' you describe. Criminals not too stupid to actually think are well aware of the fact that breaking into a home could very well result in their 'untimely' departure from this plane.

That's why they LOOK FOR the "Gun Free Zone" signs before robbing liquor and convenience stores. And why THINKING citizens avoid those killing fields.

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Message 2046342 - Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 14:40:24 UTC - in response to Message 2046308.  

I'm surprised that a citizen wearing a face mask, gloves & a sidearm hasn't been shot because a copper or security guard was in fear of their life.
Can't happen? Won't happen?
Anything is possible in America.

Especially if they have darker skin coloration and are going into a financial institution.
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Message 2046361 - Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 15:20:55 UTC - in response to Message 2046342.  

I'm surprised that a citizen wearing a face mask, gloves & a sidearm hasn't been shot because a copper or security guard was in fear of their life.
Can't happen? Won't happen?
Anything is possible in America.

Especially if they have darker skin coloration and are going into a financial institution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/us/coronavirus-masks-racism-african-americans.html
African-American men worry that following the C.D.C. recommendation to cover their faces in public could expose them to harassment from the police.
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Message 2046375 - Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 16:07:51 UTC

Just parking your car?...

Here is the reality of the USA being awash with guns:


US bodycam footage shows man shooting at police
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... in a car park in Sacramento, California, when he started firing at officers.

Bodycam footage shows the officers returning fire, resulting in the window of a nearby car [completely uninvolved] - with passengers inside - being shattered...



Where's that 'Batman' everyday body armor that everyone must wear every day?


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Message 2046377 - Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 16:10:53 UTC - in response to Message 2046316.  

... guns are not for defending people... At best they work as a deterrent. But they are built to kill people.

... Criminals not too stupid ... LOOK FOR the "Gun Free Zone" signs before robbing liquor and convenience stores...

Any examples of that?


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Message 2046379 - Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 16:26:25 UTC

https://spectator.org/mass-shootings-in-gun-free-zones/
According to ABC News, El Paso law enforcement officials advise that, moments before his killing rampage, the shooter cased the Walmart “looking for Mexicans.” While that may be so, it is nevertheless true that, consistent with his “manifesto,” his recon was also calculated to make sure that he would be attacking in a low-security area. In that regard, the Walmart store had no armed security guard, no police presence, and was located in a shopping mall that was a self-proclaimed “gun-free zone.”

....According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, between 1950 and 2018 97.8 percent of all mass public shootings occurred in gun-free zones. Similarly, in the 20 states that allow teachers to be armed, there have been no school shootings (as well as no accidents or injuries caused by firearms possessed by teachers).


Several other instances are referenced in the article and a simple internet search provides several other sources and common sense would also indicate the uselessness of "Gun Free(read "no retaliation") Zones".

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Message 2046380 - Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 16:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 2046316.  

That's why they LOOK FOR the "Gun Free Zone" signs before robbing liquor and convenience stores. And why THINKING citizens avoid those killing fields.
Does that include school kids that now perhaps also want to avoid killing fields as well?
https://attorneysforfreedom.com/blognews/mass-shootings-happen-gun-free-zones
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