https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47558141
Cause

Far-right President Jair Bolsonaro, who took office in January, has signed a decree making it easier for law-abiding citizens to own a gun, a key campaign promise

Effect

Two gunmen have opened fire at a school in south-eastern Brazil, killing at least six students and two employees, officials say.

Breaking news on WaPo Court rules families of Sandy Hook shooting victims can sue gunmaker Remington over 2012 attack

Connecticut’s Supreme Court has ruled that Remington can be sued over how it marketed the Bushmaster rifle, which was used to kill 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012, the AP reports.

(I can't see it at AP)

Breaking news on WaPo Court rules families of Sandy Hook shooting victims can sue gunmaker Remington over 2012 attack

Connecticut’s Supreme Court has ruled that Remington can be sued over how it marketed the Bushmaster rifle, which was used to kill 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012, the AP reports.

(I can't see it at AP)

And so a boatload of sleazebag attorneys will suck thousands or millions of dollars from the pockets of those grieving families falsely claiming they will reap millions in return. And another boatload of corporate attorneys will suck millions of dollars from the stockholders of one of America's oldest companies to defend the suits.

And when the parents win in the already primed and rigged court system in Connecticut it will be appealed costing the families and Remington millions more in 'billable hours' paid to the legal experts again promising a great windfall.

And finally after many years of litigation back and forth it will reach SCOTUS where it will be reversed in favor of the defendant corporation. Nobody will win except the vultures of the legal profession............as usual. AND in the unlikely event SCOTUS upholds an award to the families, Remington will file bankruptcy, having had ample time to shed assets or otherwise encumber them, again leaving nothing for the grieving families and the stockholders except more grief.

Ah.....the modern American Judicial System.........rigged in all directions for the benefit of the attorneys.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Ah.....the modern American Judicial System.........rigged in all directions for the benefit of the attorneys.

That suspiciously sounds like a cry to reform both your constitution & laws. :-)

That suspiciously sounds like a cry to reform both your constitution & laws. :-)

Just the Tort system. It has made the legal profession a pack of ambulance chasing money mongers.

If you live in the US you are bombarded every few minutes with these vultures ads on television, not offering succor and justice for the deserving, but rather asking the question......"What's your case worth?" and boasting about basically extorting millions of dollars for a sliver in the butt from a park bench.

The Constitution is fine, alive and well. Those who choose to subvert and distort it's meanings for their financial enhancement are scum.

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The Constitution is fine, alive and well. Those who choose to subvert and distort it's meanings for their financial enhancement are scum.

Doesn't that statement belong in the Trump thread?

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The Constitution is fine, alive and well. Those who choose to subvert and distort it's meanings for their financial enhancement are scum.

Doesn't that statement belong in the Trump thread?

I think so.

It's now being reported (though not yet confirmed) that the weapon used in the New Zealand attack was Remington's AR-15 rifle - that same weapon that is named in the current Connecticut court case.

So American gun laws, and by extension American gun culture, are not a purely domestic matter: they (plus Hollywood) have global reach. America needs to consider that, too.

Semi and automatic rifles are available in all countries. Criminals have no problem to get them and I think was happened in Christchurch has nothing to do at all to with American gun culture.
The terrorists seems to have got their inspiration elsewhere.

The main suspected terrorist apparently posted a movie with live murder scenes that the police are trying to get away from social media. There is also a text document circulating where the man claims to have been inspired by various terrorist acts in Europe, including the truck attack on Drottninggatan in Stockholm 2017.
The offender is also said to have been inspired by Anders Breivik and carried out the deed to take revenge for Ebba Ã…kerlund who was killed in the terrorist attack at Drottninggatan - according to a manifesto he should have published just hours before the death.
Ebba Ã…kerlund's mother says that it is deeply tragic that her daughter's death is used for propaganda purposes.
- This goes against everything Ebba was standing for, says Jeanette Ã…kerlund.
The 28-year-old also mentions Anton Lundin Pettersson, who did the school attack in Trollhättan in 2015.
The Swedish Youtube star Felix "Pewdiepie" Kjellberg is also mentioned in a video clip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Fair comment, but according to Remington Arms - Relocation of production plants, Remington appears to be an exclusively American producer of weapons: they moved a production facility from one state to another specifically to avoid enhanced gun control laws. They are part of MAGA, and that is open to questioning.

Remington export a lot of rifles.
Even to countries with more restricted gun laws than the US has.
http://www.vapencentrum.com/sv/startsida/kulgevar/--remington-cid57.htm
Then Remington had some finicial troubles last year.
Maybe they try to avoid enhanced gun control laws because of that.
https://www.jaktojagare.se/kategorier/aktuellt/konkurshotade-remington-fortsatter-20180219/

The US arms manufacturer Remington is being reconstructed after a bankruptcy threat due to a debt burden of about $ 950 million. New capital should be added and customers should not notice any difference to the previous one, promises Anthony Acitelli, CEO of Remington, in a press release

Thank you moomin for the splash of cold water.

The news I have seen states the weapon was an AK-47. A 70+ years old design manufactured in dozens of countries. A Russian invention designed to be cheap, effective at human slaughter, and not suitable for any form of 'hunting'.

I'm so saddened by those who keep insisting the tool is the culprit. The culprit and the ONLY common elements in every mass shooting are a raging hatred of some facet of society, and a target rich environment where the chance of taking return fire is non existent.

As has been amply demonstrated repeatedly since 9/11/2001, Aircraft, Trucks, Cars, Vans, bombs and knives are also used in terror attacks against, not an enemy, but rather innocent people just trying to live their lives.

It's intolerance, hatred, and ultimately madness that is responsible, and as long as one 'side' is set against the other 'side' by divisive speech and propaganda from both 'sides' it will continue and probably increase.

My deepest condolences to the victim's families, friends and the entire country of New Zealand (and to those in Brazil).

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I wonder how much NRA $'s will suddenly be heading over to N.Z. now to fight the "Howard Solution" that the N.Z. government there is now planning on implementing.

Trump the Genius from Karlstad has tweeted this today...

Just spoke with Jacinda Ardern, the Prime Minister of New Zealand, regarding the horrific events that have taken place over the past 24 hours. I informed the Prime Minister....
....that we stand in solidarity with New Zealand – and that any assistance the U.S.A. can give, we stand by ready to help. We love you New Zealand!

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern wants to change the weapon laws.
During a press conference, the Prime Minister told, among other things, that the chief suspect had a gun license and used five different weapons during the attack. Weapon purchases had begun in December 2018.
"I can tell you one thing right now: our weapon laws will change," Ardern said during the press conference.
Exactly how the change looks like was not clear at the moment. Ardern said, however, that a ban on semi-automatic weapons is being considered. Two of the five weapons used during the deed were semi-automatic.

The "Howard Solution" is what is being rumored ATM.

Prime Minister John Howard convinced the states to adopt the gun law proposals made in a report of the 1988 National Committee on Violence as the National Firearms Agreement.[41] The Australian Constitution does not give the Commonwealth power to enact gun laws. In the face of some state resistance, Howard threatened to hold a nationwide referendum to alter the Australian Constitution to give the Commonwealth constitutional power over guns. The proposals included a ban on all semi-automatic rifles and all semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns, and a system of licensing and ownership controls...

...The Australian Constitution requires just compensation be given for property taken over, so the federal government introduced the Medicare Levy Amendment Act 1996 to raise the predicted cost of A$500 million through a one-off increase in the Medicare levy. The gun buy-back scheme started on 1 October 1996 and concluded on 30 September 1997. The government bought back and destroyed over 1 million firearms

No firearms were "Confiscated" and there are still banned firearms turning up from that era now as there was no firearm registry at that time, but if you got caught with a banned weapon then you felt (and still feel) the weight of the law upon you.

The use of military/assualt type firearms was already banned here back in the 1970's.

2 Assault rifles 2 shotguns at least 1 was a lever action the have not said what the 5th gun was

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The American Consitution was based on the Magna Carta . So i believe that Americans also have the ASSUMED right that is in the MAGNA CARTA. You do not need the 2nd to garrentee the right to bear arms One day i hope your sick country will learn and introduce real gun reform other wise you are fast becoming the Ass___s of the world and making enemy's of your Allies when you try to interfear with gun laws in other country's .

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Glenn, Understand, the NRA isn't America.

I'm so saddened by those who keep insisting the tool is the culprit. The culprit and the ONLY common elements in every mass shooting are a raging hatred of some facet of society, and a target rich environment where the chance of taking return fire is non existent.

ONLY ??!!

Surely the presence of a gun is also a common element?

Richard you have been reading this forum long enough to know some posters do not use Boolean logic.

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