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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Due to the demise of my 10 yr old P4 I now have an unused pci GT430. I have a pcie GT430 running in an E5400 machine which has an unused pci buss. Does any one know if it is doable to run both in that machine and if so any tips would be very appreciated. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
betreger one of our users is running the pci 430 and a gtx 640 on the pcie so I would say yes you should be able too as he is able to . As there both GTX 430 you probably wont need different setting for them and can use the cmdline without doing what I have put up in the thread Different Setting for more than 1 GPU |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Glen when I first got the PCI GT430 2 years ago I tried just plugging it into the machine with the PCIe GT430 and it wouldn't boot so there has to be some trick if it can be done. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Depends on the motherboard, I think. There's also the thing where a PCI slot will use the same resources as a PCIe slot, and only one of them can use those at the same time (interrupt number, direct memory access, that sort of thing). |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Well it is an 5 year old low end Dell so the answer is probably no and that make sense. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Problem with Dell is also that most of their motherboards allow only proprietary things to be added, aka things they sell to you. I can check around, got not much to do anyway, if you give the motherboard model. :) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
The user that has the card is Ulrich Metzner so maybe if you ask him if there any special drivers he's using that you can use and what type of MoBo he's using . He has a thread in the Number crunching so maybe leave him a post there and see what he has to say that mite help you . |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
Well it is an 5 year old low end Dell so the answer is probably no and that make sense. Do you have the latest BIOS installed on the motherboard? I have an 11 year old Dell, there isn't any problem running an AGP and PCI video card at the same time. There IS a Problem trying to run an AGP card that is Really a PCIe card with a PCIe to AGP bridge. The machine will not even post if there is just the AGP bridge card installed. IF I set it to use the Real PCI card First, it will then boot using the PCI card, and the AGP bridge card is seen in XP. BUT, ALL attempts to install the Driver for the PCIe bridge card Fails. I tried it for a few weeks and gave up. Seems the 'Ell doesn't work with PCIe bridge cards. I suppose your PCI 430 is really a PCIe bridge card? If it is a bridge card, Good Luck with that ;-) After numerous discussions with the Vendors it was determined the proprietary companies, i.e. Dell, HP, etc, don't supply the BIOS with the settings needed to work with the Bridge cards. That was a while back, who knows, it might work now. Make sure the BIOS is set to use the Real PCIe card First instead of the 'fake' PCI card. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Problem with Dell is also that most of their motherboards allow only proprietary things to be added, aka things they sell to you. I can check around, got not much to do anyway, if you give the motherboard model. :) The computer model is a Studio D540 and its motherboard model is M017G. As an aside it has been running an Asus GT430 in thee PCIe buss for almost it's whole life. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Sorry I can't offer you much help I stopped using PCI cards back in 2000 |
Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 |
Well, hi, here i am. ;) I additionally have the Zotac GT 430 PCI card side by side to the normally Zotac GT 640 PCIe card. The only thing i've done is, i enabled inside the BIOS the option to give an IRQ to the PCI card (= to the GT 430) - that's all. Also i've enabled the option <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> in the cc_config.xml of the BOINC client. The rest is history and can be read here! ;) Aloha, Uli |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Well, hi, here i am. ;) I just went to the bios and found nothing about the IRQ. |
Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 |
I just went to the bios and found nothing about the IRQ. Well, look inside the chipset configuration or inside the legacy setup. I have an AMI BIOS from ~2009. Maybe, on a Dell setup things are different... :? Aloha, Uli |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
I looked around and cannot find a motherboard manual for the M017G. I can find several of the motherboards themselves, ranging from a refurbished one from Dell for $199.- to as low as $59.95 (and in stock). But no manual and thus no help on its BIOS. Sorry. :( |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Here's a link to Dells win 64 bit BIOS for that model of computer from dell http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/studio-desktop/drivers If your not running the 64 bit version or a different op then just change the setting on the top part of the page . |
Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 |
Ok, i have to admit, i use a meanwhile very old ASUS P5B-E board, which concludes itself to being nearly indestructible and is seemingly using Japanese capacitors of very high quality, since it still ever after over 7 years of continually crunching is running flawless at very high speeds. :)) Aloha, Uli |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Thanks guys I will tackle this further tomorrow, the cocktail hour has started here on the upper left coast and I learned the hard way many times don't mess with things while drinking. A reformat and clean install of Windoz all too often happens. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
It is another day and I have concluded with the help I received in this thread that the old Dell can't run 2 GPUs. Thanx to those who contributed. |
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