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Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I posted a few pics of one of the leaf cleaners (Railhead Treatment Trains or RHTT) a while back. Today I spotted this RHTT waiting at the signal outside East Croydon. This gives a better view of the "tanks" that contain the mixture that is sprayed on the rails. Here a close up of 73965, Also a longer view just as one of the newest Thameslink EMU's passes. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Nice, Bernie. I really need to post some of my recent pictures one of these days. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22220 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
That is one of the Brush re-engined class 73/9s - lots of new equipment inside, more power and less noise when running in diesel mode, but about the same in electric mode. The old 600hp English Electric 4SRKT having been replaced with a 1600hp MTU engine, which gives them about the same power at rail in both diesel and electric (750v DC, third rail) modes - making a useful small engine out of what was an "old knacker". Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65763 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
That is one of the Brush re-engined class 73/9s - lots of new equipment inside, more power and less noise when running in diesel mode, but about the same in electric mode. The old 600hp English Electric 4SRKT having been replaced with a 1600hp MTU engine, which gives them about the same power at rail in both diesel and electric (750v DC, third rail) modes - making a useful small engine out of what was an "old knacker". There's nothing wrong with a little recycling, just gives some muscle to some older hardware, sweet. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30676 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
The UK's somewhat lowbrow 'Channel 5' TV channel has been running a second series of: Chris Tarrant: Extreme Railway Journeys (I don't know if there are any national restrictions on that link) (Chris Tarrant is a somewhat lowbrow UK rent-a-presenter, but you can always turn down the volume...) They showed a fair variety of Cuban routes and equipment last week: tonight was Japan, and they're doing Canada next week. Nothing very technical, but they do cover a wide range of trains each episode, albeit superficially. Much more train action than Michael Portillo's matching offering on the BBC. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65763 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Bullet train project actually on track Re "Bullet train likely to miss budget, deadline targets" (Page 3A, Oct. 25): A recent report on the California high-speed rail gave readers a dramatic but false impression of where our program stands in terms of costs and technical hurdles. In truth, we are making steady progress. Work is underway on the over 100-mile rail segment in the Central Valley, with over $2 billion in construction contracts executed. Drive along Highway 99 and you will see crews. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Bullet train project actually on track As much as it pains me to say this, I find the LA Times report more credible than the head of the government agency being criticized. And I would like to suggest that any further discussion of California HSR should more properly occur in the Politics Forum. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30676 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And I would like to suggest that any further discussion of California HSR should more properly occur in the Politics Forum. +many |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Time perhaps for a nice train pic. This I saw today. Sunrise reflected off the windows of one of Chicago's office blocks as P42 #16 departs with train 381 destination Quincy, IL. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
And I would like to suggest that any further discussion of California HSR should more properly occur in the Politics Forum. If we can be disciplined enough, I'd like to keep discussion of the ACTUAL construction here. I certainly agree that discussion of the politics of it can go to Politics. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65763 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
And I would like to suggest that any further discussion of California HSR should more properly occur in the Politics Forum. Some I think don't like any talking about HSR in CA, except in the r/w zone, aka Politics. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
And I would like to suggest that any further discussion of California HSR should more properly occur in the Politics Forum. Watching the "construction" of the Merced-Fresno leg, all I see is demolition of buildings in downtown Fresno, and a few bridge pilings at the San Joaquin River crossing at the Fresno-Madera County line. The next leg, Fresno-Bakersfield, the route is still not finalized, although purchase of property and eminent-domain court fights are in progress. Recently, both the Kings County Board of Supervisors, and the Hanford City Council, voted NOT to participate in a study with CHSR Authority to site a station on the east side of Hanford. CHSR is a highly-divisive subject in the Fresno-Tulare-Kings Counties area. Even discussion of construction progress can devolve into a heated political discussion. The Ballot Proposition authorizing CHSR actually failed in most San Joaquin Valley Counties, but it passed state-wide, so we are stuck with it. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30676 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And I would like to suggest that any further discussion of California HSR should more properly occur in the Politics Forum. Not just divisive there, but at the southern end as well where everyone wants it to go through their town but forbid it to go through some other sensitive area. As that route isn't picked yet the politicians are free to monkey, which they will, to help their big campaign donors and have their land values explode. Reminds me of William Mulholland and Fredrick Eaton who knew where the LA aqueduct was going and bought up the land before they bought it up for the city. Then the CHSR politicians will pick a route like city politicians did for the Metro Green Line in Los Angeles that goes almost to a useful destination, but stops short and turns away, so people have to get off and take a shuttle bus to a super major international airport, really making it attractive to ride. I hope the politicians prove me wrong! |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
It's really kind of understandable why the railroads in the old days would use dummy companies to buy their rights of way. If the owners knew it was a major railroad buying, they would raise the price. In that regard, it would be nice if the route planners could do their work in secret, doing what's best for the people instead of the politicians. However, we are still getting too close to politics here. In regards to CHSR, I want facts here, not personal opinions. I have opinions too, but I'm withholding them. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
It's really kind of understandable why the railroads in the old days would use dummy companies to buy their rights of way. If the owners knew it was a major railroad buying, they would raise the price. In that regard, it would be nice if the route planners could do their work in secret, doing what's best for the people instead of the politicians. Which is why I objected to Vic's post, and suggest that any further discussion of California HSR should more properly occur in the Politics Forum. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
It's really kind of understandable why the railroads in the old days would use dummy companies to buy their rights of way. If the owners knew it was a major railroad buying, they would raise the price. In that regard, it would be nice if the route planners could do their work in secret, doing what's best for the people instead of the politicians. Vic's post was about the politics, but did not express his own opinion. That's barely within my limits. The subsequent discussion has expressed personal opinion (yes, including my own), which is not. If it keeps up, I will start clicking red Xes. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22220 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
(Trying to avoid a red-x) A question - The picture of the mock-up quite clearly shows the train to be a Siemens unit, does anyone know if this is a relation to the high speed units they are delivering to Eurostar for the Channel Tunnel? Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65763 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
(Trying to avoid a red-x) Siemens has a factory here in California, that's all I know. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30676 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It's really kind of understandable why the railroads in the old days would use dummy companies to buy their rights of way. If the owners knew it was a major railroad buying, they would raise the price. In that regard, it would be nice if the route planners could do their work in secret, doing what's best for the people instead of the politicians. David, I don't think the project is quite far enough along for there to be much of a technical nature to discuss. The rest of the project being so highly politicized I doubt even a discussion of which automatic control method wouldn't devolve into politics. I "+many"'d because of this and discussion needs to be in the politics fora so no one feels the need to red-x and we don't contribute to the mods workload. |
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