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Message 1811375 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:26:34 UTC - in response to Message 1811229.  


Now I must confess, that disappoints me just a bit.
He is changing his stance to cater.
Kissing up for votes.
I have expressed my sentiment many times here....I have no problem with any legal immigrant of any race, religion, or point of origin.

It's the illegals I have a problem with, and I thought Trump was going to deal with that in the manner I wish it to be dealt with.


hehehehe Kittyman I did warn you all about Trump he's another King George III and you lot ended up going to war when he was king .

And who says there's nothing in Astrology (the science of personality profiling not for telling the future) but you can assume what a person is most likely to do on any subject or topic or attitude .


Nahhh...

Trump the Poisonous is more of an 'A. Hitler' than a 'King George III'.

But then, same result... We wound up doing war on that A.H. too.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1811377 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 1811362.  

“When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed” ~ Ayn Rand

55 years ago I read and believed The Fountain Head and Atlas shrugged. By my early 30's I realized she was proposing total crap. I'm soon to be 71.
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Message 1811378 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 1811373.  

“When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed” ~ Ayn Rand

May Director Comy sleep well at night......


Howard Roarke is such an interesting character, it's taken me 1 year to get through 1/4 oof the book. Reading Limbaugh went so much more quickly. Even "Earth in the Balance" went more quickly!


The Fountainhead... good novel. Read it 3 times.
Read the novel 'Atlas Shrugged' 4 times.

Currently reading one of her collections of essays 'Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal'.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1811387 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:59:02 UTC - in response to Message 1811378.  

You may find Ayn Rand more
palatable if you are not Jewish!



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You may find it even more than palatable if you sort of turn off your mind while reading her....
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Message 1811435 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 17:17:41 UTC - in response to Message 1811408.  

Howard Roarke is such an interesting character, it's taken me 1 year to get through 1/4 oof the book. Reading Limbaugh went so much more quickly. Even "Earth in the Balance" went more quickly!

Howard Roark (Mr. Ayn Rand?). Is a very interesting character, with many valid observations and ideas.

But as most fanatics disclose, if they gain power: "My way, or..."


Spoiler as to what happens after the first quarter of the book?
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Message 1811447 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 17:40:47 UTC - in response to Message 1811362.  
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“When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed” ~ Ayn Rand

May Director Comy sleep well at night......


Anywho:

1) Couldn't this go in the Hillary RODHAM Clinton thread? This thread is for Donald JOHN Trump and in your post, it lacks the sometimes necessary overlap.

2) This is one of the few things Rand says that makes complete sense. Are we sure she didn't actually say "When a man cannot make the courts agree with him, he's not truly a man ... not worthy of being called human"?
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Message 1811490 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 19:34:56 UTC - in response to Message 1811459.  

Howard Roarke is such an interesting character, it's taken me 1 year to get through 1/4 oof the book. Reading Limbaugh went so much more quickly. Even "Earth in the Balance" went more quickly!

Howard Roark (Mr. Ayn Rand?). Is a very interesting character, with many valid observations and ideas.

But as most fanatics disclose, if they gain power: "My way, or..."


Spoiler as to what happens after the first quarter of the book?

No spoiler...

Just a general observation.

What he does, his explanation, and where he explains...

You will not put the book down.


I have no problem with wanting to be functional and original. Creative. I am sometimes creative.

I do have a problem with the idea that following anything classic is sub-human.

Putting in the realm of architecture? Maybe interesting in the 1920s? Now? It's boring?

Ms. Francon and Mr. Toohey and the dances they do to appear different? Boring.
Roarke and Ms. Francon's weird submission/domination dance? Perhaps a bit creepy, what I've read so far.

Should continued reading shed any light for me, understanding the minds of others? Particularly, Trump and his supporters?
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Message 1811522 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 20:52:00 UTC

Ayn Rand was instrumental in the cleansing of Hollywood
of not only Communists but Jews by way of the House Un-American
Activities Committee. Right in the thick of all of it was
Walt Disney working hard to get rid of most of the Jewish,
Latino, and other such un-palatable persons from his organization.
You may be asking: "So what?" I have always believed that the
true nature of any one is directly related to the things they
do in life. I was not impressed with some of the terrible things
that Ayn Rand did, and what I think she represented as a philosopher.
I think she should have stayed writing screen plays.



edit:
I believe she may be reasonable for some of the heartless justifications now used by oligarchs in your country in their dealings with your citizens....

re-edit:
I have been waiting years to write that....
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Message 1811541 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 21:47:47 UTC

The former Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul, is named after Ayn Rand!
In the contemporary view of Ayn Rand she was an ideological extremist but without academic authority.
She praises egoism, rejects taxation and advocate the nightwatch state.
But her books sold well and she became a great inspiration to many entrepreneurs, politicians and cultural workers.
Sounds like someone Trump could like.
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Message 1811616 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 0:41:39 UTC

“When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed”
Ayn Rand aside, what is not true in that quote?

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1811640 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 1:28:00 UTC - in response to Message 1811362.  

“When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed” ~ Ayn Rand


Wow there she is again .

A Russian old lady whom has been proven to be a complete dunce and her theories disproven in a classic experiment and you American quote her .

Wow how she had so much power boggles me .

She had the ear of Greenspan and others wake up

She is a true communist and so are her ideas god dam it
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Message 1811642 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 1:38:33 UTC - in response to Message 1811635.  
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Should continued reading shed any light for me, understanding the minds of others? Particularly, Trump and his supporters?

Sarge... Sorry for the delayed response.

Roark's (Ayn Rand) beliefs are shared by a large portion of the American People. Most of them will probably vote for Trump.

Trump's real belief's? Who knows.

Not wishing to give away Roark's explanation, and to who at the end:

We should continue this discussion upon your completion


Clyde I get really annoned when I here her F-ing name man .

America is a refection of her theories right now and why your in so much trouble in the classic experiment to prove her crap it failed not even 1/2 way into it and what happened in that experiment is exactly what you see in you country bully's taking your right and wealth away from you .

GRRRRRRR to Ayn Rand
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Message 1811648 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 2:06:13 UTC - in response to Message 1811635.  

Should continued reading shed any light for me, understanding the minds of others? Particularly, Trump and his supporters?

Sarge... Sorry for the delayed response.
Roark's (Ayn Rand) beliefs are shared by a large portion of the American People. Most of them will probably vote for Trump.
Trump's real belief's? Who knows.
Not wishing to give away Roark's explanation, and to who at the end:
We should continue this discussion upon your completion.

I will give you this CLUDE.
AYN Rand found that the real Power in America was in the Movie Industry.
After, as a spoiled brat, in Soviet Russia, as she moved to the USA, she realized that the only way to Power was Sucking Up.
All of Ayn Rand's Philosophy has no more relevance than the bile spewed by Stalin.
Her's was just a Mindless Recoil.

I actually like Her work, as Fiction, Nothing More.
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Message 1811651 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 2:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 1811648.  


Should continued reading shed any light for me, understanding the minds of others? Particularly, Trump and his supporters?

Sarge... Sorry for the delayed response.
Roark's (Ayn Rand) beliefs are shared by a large portion of the American People. Most of them will probably vote for Trump.
Trump's real belief's? Who knows.
Not wishing to give away Roark's explanation, and to who at the end:
We should continue this discussion upon your completion.
I will give you this CLUDE.
AYN Rand found that the real Power in America was in the Movie Industry.
After, as a spoiled brat, in Soviet Russia, as she moved to the USA, she realized that the only way to Power was Sucking Up.
All of Ayn Rand's Philosophy has no more relevance than the bile spewed by Stalin.
Her's was just a Mindless Recoil.

I actually like Her work, as Fiction, Nothing More.


Your 100% right there guido you said what I was trying to say .
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Message 1811669 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 2:45:40 UTC - in response to Message 1811656.  

Alan Greenspan was so wrong about the GFC that it could be said he caused it.
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Message 1811683 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 3:04:37 UTC

Revealed: Donald JOHN Trumps's Debt.
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Message 1811730 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 5:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 1811683.  

Revealed: Donald JOHN Trumps's Debt.

Yeah, great, but I gave you link to that story two (2) days ago.
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Message 1811810 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 11:18:19 UTC - in response to Message 1811616.  
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“When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed”
Ayn Rand aside, what is not true in that quote?

It does not take into account the words of the 2nd President, John Adams:

It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished
(source)

The presumption of innocence requires the law provide protections for the guilty (and thus the corrupt). Rand is wrong, the nation is not doomed, its people are better off.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1811898 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 21:12:42 UTC

Trump increasing payments to himself or his companies as campaign donations increase.

Donald Trump 'quadrupled rent for own campaign's Trump Tower HQ as donor funding increased'

The rent increased from $35,458 in March to $72,800 in April, $110,684 in June and $169,758 in July. It is unclear if the campaign increased the space it occupies in Trump Tower, though staffing levels have remained consistent.

Mr Trump's real estate holdings have proved an asset for his campaign, and the campaign's use of them has provided revenue for his business.

He has held several campaign events at his Mar a Lago resort in Florida, and the campaign has paid about $260,000 to use his golf courses and restaurants over the past three months.

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