But on re-reading the statement below:

'The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun'

I see the difficulty that would pose in distinguishing between who's who.

Yes, that seems to be the crux of the issue.
Government = Bad Guy
Examples abound, from Pol Pot to ...

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And that's my view.

I sense you have issues. Thank you for clarifying them.

It crossed my mind that a less contentious solution would have been to allow the GOP candidates weapons too.

But on re-reading the statement below:

'The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun'

I see the difficulty that would pose in distinguishing between who's who.

I have no issues. You asked for my view, I gave it. Accept it or not does not matter to me. If you have a point to make, make it, don't couch your comments in attempted psychobabble words like 'sensing'.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

'The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun'

Perhaps a bullet proof jacket is better.
No licence needed to wear them.

'The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun'

Unless he's faster and better shooter than you

Perhaps a bullet proof jacket is better.
No licence needed to wear them.

or gun control ops that bad word

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or gun control ops that bad word

Gun control doesn't work.
Criminals and bad guys get their weapons anyway.
In Scandinavia it's cheaper and more easy to buy them illegally.

The Gun Control Crowd is lying about their intentions.

It is not about Gun Control. But People Control.

The Left, as The Nazis. Truly believe they are superior.

Very succinctly put.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Would have responded earlier but the dog needed a cr*p.

I have no issues.

Then you're a rare man. The extravaganza of bold text appeared to suggest otherwise.

You asked for my view, I gave it. Accept it or not does not matter to me. If you have a point to make, make it, don't couch your comments in attempted psychobabble words like 'sensing'.

I'm interested. I get why the right to bear arms was so cherished to begin with. Wherever colonial Britain stuck her snout - scars abound. I suspect the Africa thread will highlight a few. But you've been electing your own for long enough, and you're more armed than ever. Which leaves your civil war.

Other nations disarmed on cessation of hostilities. Why not America?

If you don't mind another question? You believe gun ownership makes America a safer place. Do you advocate that the rest of the world follows your example?

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We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Apart from pain. And maybe humiliation. And obviously death. And failure. But apart from fear, pain and humiliation, failure and the unknown and death - we have nothing to fear. Who’s with me?

Other nations disarmed on cessation of hostilities. Why not America?

USA is forbidden to have a standing army. Someone had to have weapons at the ready.

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The extravaganza of bold text appeared to suggest otherwise.

You misinterpret passion as issues.

I'm interested. I get why the right to bear arms was so cherished to begin with. Wherever colonial Britain stuck her snout - scars abound. I suspect the Africa thread will highlight a few. But you've been electing your own for long enough, and you're more armed than ever. Which leaves your civil war.

Other nations disarmed on cessation of hostilities. Why not America?

This entire part of your post indicates your misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the reason for the 2nd Amendment. The Right to keep and bear arms is not just for personal protection or as deterrent to invasion by a foreign power, it was intended by the authors as insurance against a tyrannical threat from within as well. A disarmed population is the first step to total control. Many examples exist in history I will not belabor them. I don't understand what your comment on the Civil War was about.

If you don't mind another question? You believe gun ownership makes America a safer place. Do you advocate that the rest of the world follows your example?

I really don't know where this comes from. No other government on earth that I am aware of, Constitutionally guarantees it's citizens the right to keep and bear arms. Speaking for myself I really don't care what the rest of the world does or does not want in the way of personal firearms. What I do have a BIG problem with is other countries trying to change our guaranteed rights(UN Small Arms Treaty). That is what 1776 was all about in the first place.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

That is what 1776 was all about in the first place.

Yes. The USA couldn't protect all citizens due to the revolution at that time.
Then the Civil War came along and the same story with villains around.
But surely, its now 2015...
The US is the most powerful nation in the world to deal with those villains.

Good to see then that America hasn't got long before it implodes .

FERGUSON riot is this the start of a 2nd civil war in America ?

gees all them arms are keeping you all safe then

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or gun control ops that bad word

Gun control doesn't work.
Criminals and bad guys get their weapons anyway.
In Scandinavia it's cheaper and more easy to buy them illegally

and your country can boast about how bad It doesn't work when they compare them self's to Somalia or you can chose to compare the state with lowest death rate and compare that to a whole country and only just beat said country (Australia witch also has states) and somehow be so proud of your achievement

..at making your self's look foolish to the whole world

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Glen,

I was going to reply to your fevered double post, but as usual you only want to argue your self-delusional ideals not have an intelligent discussion. So, as with Michael, I hereby put you on my 'ignore as irrelevant' list.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Glen,

I was going to reply to your fevered double post, but as usual you only want to argue your self-delusional ideals not have an intelligent discussion. So, as with Michael, I hereby put you on my 'ignore as irrelevant' list.

I could be calling this wrong, but are you quite short? For your age.

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We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Apart from pain. And maybe humiliation. And obviously death. And failure. But apart from fear, pain and humiliation, failure and the unknown and death - we have nothing to fear. Who’s with me?

I could be calling this wrong, but are you quite short? For your age.

No, the Moai are extremely tall.
As all things in life, perspective is everything.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Of the few Kiwis I have known your sense of social responsibilty is quite different. Those folks were rugby men and that very well explain their viewpoint.

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no mate i'm 5 foot 10 plus i used to own guns mate and i don't drive a tank either so your way off the mark mate .

To to assume i'm short and have a small member is totally wrong , i just don't need a big v8 or assault rifle to substitute for being short or having a small member .

I just woke up to the fact weapon like assault rifles are not needed by the public and the more guns on the streets the more mass murders will happen .

It is not the 1750's where people are uneducated animals , and the weapons of today have got to a point where they do't kill only one person at a time but can kill dozens in only a few short pulls of the trigger

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Glen,

I was going to reply to your fevered double post, but as usual you only want to argue your self-delusional ideals not have an intelligent discussion. So, as with Michael, I hereby put you on my 'ignore as irrelevant' list.

I guess the truth hurts right

And it was you that put that stupid video up all i have done is say what was said in the vid

Not my problem you can't see how stupid it make you all look and i put that down to the Brain washing you have all been drum'd into believing

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Of the few Kiwis I have known your sense of social responsibilty is quite different. Those folks were rugby men and that very well explain their viewpoint.

Umm mate I'm not a Kiwi simular flag but we have white stars the Kiwi's have red .

I'm a Australian the Kiwi's live over the ditch 1500 klm's away besides there a strange lot the Kiwi's hehehehehe

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(ignore mode off)
@ Glen Wow, three successive posts. Wipe the foam from around your mouth and please do wear a hat the next time you go out in the sun........ttfn
(ignore mode re-engaged)

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>