AND YES "camaraderie" too - before the wolves Attack

TEKLock

AND YES "camaraderie" too - before the wolves Attack - (I did Google both)

TEKLock

As I Look at the Feedback...

Everyone commenting here has been a S@H user for 15 or so years (with one acceptation, not going to mention any names but he didn't understand why 15 years dedication is a 'smigin' better then 10 years - especially considering tech older then 10 years) and that's AWESOME! We are somewhat the founding fathers of this Amazing Effort and Community - I'm very proud of that!

"SETI@home was released to the public on May 17, 1999" - 16 Years

I see some real Heavy Hitters Here - CONGRATS!


TEKLock

Well, somewhere around late '97 or so I wrote a check to the Planetary Society to be used for setting up a SETI search. That money helped get this project off the ground. So some of us actually have join dates that would predate the project.

Now the Planetary Society has a spacecraft in orbit. Join the society, join the team. Do science.

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Well, somewhere around late '97 or so I wrote a check to the Planetary Society to be used for setting up a SETI search. That money helped get this project off the ground. So some of us actually have join dates that would predate the project.

Now the Planetary Society has a spacecraft in orbit. Join the society, join the team. Do science.

'I wrote a check...' - WOW Really - please place more emphasis and merit on DEC 25th 00 - that's your pride point, not "I wrote a check..."

You are a long time Contributor to our Community - That's AWESOME!

TEKLock

Well, somewhere around late '97 or so I wrote a check to the Planetary Society to be used for setting up a SETI search. That money helped get this project off the ground. So some of us actually have join dates that would predate the project.

Now the Planetary Society has a spacecraft in orbit. Join the society, join the team. Do science.

'I wrote a check...' - WOW Really - please place more emphasis and merit on DEC 25th 00 - that's your pride point, not "I wrote a check..."

You are a long time Contributor to our Community - That's AWESOME!

TEKLock

No, if I and a lot of others did not write those checks, then Seti@home would not exist, not just Seti@home but the entire Berkeley Seti program. We, Planetary Society funded the programs that put the receiver at Arecibo, without which ...

As I said, there are some of us to predate the project or join dates.

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Everyone commenting here has been a S@H user for 15 or so years (with one acceptation, not going to mention any names but he didn't understand why 15 years dedication is a 'smigin' better then 10 years - especially considering tech older then 10 years) and that's AWESOME! We are somewhat the founding fathers of this Amazing Effort and Community - I'm very proud of that!

Feel free to mention names; I stand by my statement, and don't mind in the least being the exception. Fortunately, as one of the overwhelming majority of users who don't have the resources to accumulate 100+ years of CPU time, I'll never be qualified to join the club. And I'm very proud of that.

ETA: Also note that 1) lack of agreement ≠ lack of understanding; and 2) as soon as the word "better" (emphasis mine) is used, my point is proven.

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Feel free to mention names; I stand by my statement, and don't mind in the least being the exception. Fortunately, as one of the overwhelming majority of users who don't have the resources to accumulate 100+ years of CPU time, I'll never be qualified to join the club. And I'm very proud of that.

ETA: Also note that 1) lack of agreement ≠ lack of understanding; and 2) as soon as the word "better" (emphasis mine) is used, my point is proven.

You are under some odd notion that it took 'resources' to accumulate 100+ years... strangely that's my piont, you don't get that it Did Not... Old Computers Racked Up massive hours per work unit - dedication and time and perseverance. Also, the word 'better' is used in regard to 10 year old tech versus 15 year old tech - you had it BETTER... we had 333Mhz - 533Mhz processor at BEST and let's not forget Dial-up... You had 2 machines in 2005, a 2000Mhz and 2800Mhz (Better then My 333Mhz)use logic, how long did you take to complete a classic work Unit, about 10 hours at 2000Mhz. Now think about how long it would take for one work unit at 333Mhz, and its not just a factor of 10 - LOL its asking if the computer can be left on at night just to process SETI.

ETA: point one and two are simply flawed logic and egocentric attitude, in that order.

I'm sorry, ask around, if you don't understand 15 year old tech, then you don't have a point of reference. If you didn't carry a pager and have AOL disks all over your house and be completely in tune with the handshake of a modem then you ...can't make a piont.

TEKLock

I have been into computers nearly my whole life, having to go over to friend's houses just to get my tech fix. I bought my own computer after saving up some much hard-earned cash in 1992. I remember the days of dial-up BBS access, text-based web pages, Multi-User Dungeon (MUD) games, and loading TSRs and device drivers into the Upper Memory Area just to play some games or load large programs. My first computer was 25MHz, and some here would say I had a fast machine compared to their first.

And I know that there are many here with a much longer history than myself.


But I get Werecow's point. Threads like these, while attempting to congratulate users for longevity and dedication, frequently come across as exclusionary, and that comes across as elitist. I don't have 100 years of CPU time racked up, and many others have stated the same. I'm also not a member of the 16 year club, so I feel excluded from those threads here in Number Crunching as well.

So, I mean if you want to create a club with exclusive members to pat yourselves (ourselves) on the back, you can. I would rather not exclude anybody at all though since we're all in this together.

I appreciate the spirit wherein threads like this are meant, and I know people who start these types of threads mean well, so I usually just stay out of them. But you shouldn't be surprised when someone like Werecow calls out the elitism, and you probably shouldn't fuel the flame by firing back inflammatory words either. It will only drag down the entire thread as it always does. Rather than fuel the flame, try to find a reason to include more people so they don't feel left out. After all, they're here for the same goal, and it's not their fault for joining late.

Feel free to mention names; I stand by my statement, and don't mind in the least being the exception. Fortunately, as one of the overwhelming majority of users who don't have the resources to accumulate 100+ years of CPU time, I'll never be qualified to join the club. And I'm very proud of that.

ETA: Also note that 1) lack of agreement ≠ lack of understanding; and 2) as soon as the word "better" (emphasis mine) is used, my point is proven.

-[ snip ]- BETTER... we had 333Mhz - 533Mhz processor at BEST and let's not forget Dial-up... You had 2 machines in 2005, a 2000Mhz and 2800Mhz (Better then My 333Mhz)use logic, how long did you take to complete a classic work Unit, about 10 hours at 2000Mhz. -[ snip ]-

Greetings,

First of all, I'm forced to agree with Werecow and OzzFan here. This thread smacks of elitism.

You're saying that Werecow starting with a 2Ghz processor was 'better' than you. What does that say about you with a 333Mhz processor vs. my starting processor being a 486 66Mhz? That machine would take an average of a week to do one WU. I was fortunate to make it to 28K+ hours before switching to BOINC and building better and better PCs over the years. I remember dial-up. If memory serves, I believe I started with a 14.4KB modem, gradually working up to 56KB.

I am a 16 year veteran like many others that posted here. So what? I'm proud to be a part of SETI@Home for that long and hope to be for some time to come before I kick the bucket. I have a milestones thread going back to '04 and there's a thread celebrating 16 years of service. I have not posted to either one bragging about my 16 years. This thread is the first I have mentioned it.

I do not feel like I am part of an 'elite' group. We are all here to do one thing and that is to help SETI@Home by crunching data. I'm running 1 PC, so what? My small part is no worse than people running farms. We are all doing our part.

BTW, Classic SETI did not last long after BOINC launched. I don't remember it lasting into '05.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

Something else begs the questions: Why hide your computer(s)? What do you need to hide? How can anyone research your computer history like you do others?

Just askin'... ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Feel free to mention names; I stand by my statement, and don't mind in the least being the exception. Fortunately, as one of the overwhelming majority of users who don't have the resources to accumulate 100+ years of CPU time, I'll never be qualified to join the club. And I'm very proud of that.

ETA: Also note that 1) lack of agreement ≠ lack of understanding; and 2) as soon as the word "better" (emphasis mine) is used, my point is proven.

-[ snip ]- BETTER... we had 333Mhz - 533Mhz processor at BEST and let's not forget Dial-up... You had 2 machines in 2005, a 2000Mhz and 2800Mhz (Better then My 333Mhz)use logic, how long did you take to complete a classic work Unit, about 10 hours at 2000Mhz. -[ snip ]-

Greetings,

First of all, I'm forced to agree with Werecow and OzzFan here. This thread smacks of elitism.

You're saying that Werecow starting with a 2Ghz processor was 'better' than you. What does that say about you with a 333Mhz processor vs. my starting processor being a 486 66Mhz? That machine would take an average of a week to do one WU. I was fortunate to make it to 28K+ hours before switching to BOINC and building better and better PCs over the years. I remember dial-up. If memory serves, I believe I started with a 14.4KB modem, gradually working up to 56KB.

I am a 16 year veteran like many others that posted here. So what? I'm proud to be a part of SETI@Home for that long and hope to be for some time to come before I kick the bucket. I have a milestones thread going back to '04 and there's a thread celebrating 16 years of service. I have not posted to either one bragging about my 16 years. This thread is the first I have mentioned it.

I do not feel like I am part of an 'elite' group. We are all here to do one thing and that is to help SETI@Home by crunching data. I'm running 1 PC, so what? My small part is no worse than people running farms. We are all doing our part.

BTW, Classic SETI did not last long after BOINC launched. I don't remember it lasting into '05.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

+1, or create a thread for users with >1000 machines crunching. Lets be real elite.

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That summarizes my thoughts quite well, OzzFan.

I would add, though, that my first "computer" was a Pickett NE-4ES -- so I've obviously experienced the evolution of technology first-hand, and can relate to all the aforementioned growing pains. ;-)

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Greetings,

First of all, I'm forced to agree with Werecow and OzzFan here. This thread smacks of elitism.

You're saying that Werecow starting with a 2Ghz processor was 'better' than you. What does that say about you with a 333Mhz processor vs. my starting processor being a 486 66Mhz? That machine would take an average of a week to do one WU. I was fortunate to make it to 28K+ hours before switching to BOINC and building better and better PCs over the years. I remember dial-up. If memory serves, I believe I started with a 14.4KB modem, gradually working up to 56KB.

I am a 16 year veteran like many others that posted here. So what? I'm proud to be a part of SETI@Home for that long and hope to be for some time to come before I kick the bucket. I have a milestones thread going back to '04 and there's a thread celebrating 16 years of service. I have not posted to either one bragging about my 16 years. This thread is the first I have mentioned it.

I do not feel like I am part of an 'elite' group. We are all here to do one thing and that is to help SETI@Home by crunching data. I'm running 1 PC, so what? My small part is no worse than people running farms. We are all doing our part.

BTW, Classic SETI did not last long after BOINC launched. I don't remember it lasting into '05.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

I think the stats & such can be fun, but when people start taking it to seriously it gets weird.

Classic ran through most of 2005. From http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/: "On December 15, 2005, after 6 years of operation, Classic SETI@home sent out its last workunit. On December 22, we stopped receiving results." So April '99 to December '05 or 6 year 9 months. For anyone to have 100 years of CPU time they would have to averaged about 14.8 years of CPU time a year. So basically have 15 machines running 24/7.
Speed is irrelevant when only looking at CPU time. So those 15 machines could have only done 1 WU a month & racked up that much CPU time. Which would only be a little over 1200 WUs. Sure a lot of KW/Hs were used, but not a lot of work was done. Which is why I think the CPU time by itself is meaningless.

It was always fun to see the stacks & farms people built at home to run SETI@home in the classic days. Using lots of cheap slower bits. Back then you could build a bunch of celeron machines for $100-150 each. Now that gets you a MB.

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