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Message 1867554 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 2:07:59 UTC

Well My worst fears came true, I put the Corsair Air 540 case on My cart, and even though it barely shows, the tubing is in the way of a front/top mounted 120x25mm radiator, the top 120mm screw holes for a fan or radiator are about 1" from the 360EX radiator, so I have undo all 12 screws, and mount the 360EX tubing down. At least I got the case on the cart, that's step 1, step 2 will mount the cooler from the bottom to the cpu, and the cpu cooler mounting will be done. I hope. The envelope is acting as a temp dust cover for the top of the case.

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Message 1867564 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 3:06:55 UTC

i thought you were going to get the x9
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Message 1867581 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 4:33:34 UTC - in response to Message 1867564.  
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i thought you were going to get the x9

Maybe to replace My current case, or maybe it will be a Corsair Carbide Air 740. Murky, is the future.
Right now the Air 540 works, and is E-ATX compatible, and is hybrid compatible too, and the 740 has no 5.25" drive bays.

The inside of a 740 case.

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Message 1867583 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 4:46:22 UTC

the x9 looks to have a lot of space
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Message 1867584 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 5:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 1867583.  

the x9 looks to have a lot of space

Maybe, but an X9 might be almost too much space for Hybrid video cards, like the 1070 or the 1080, or the 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid, the MSI 1070 and 1080 Seahawk X cards, not the MSI 1070/1080 Seahawk EK X version, which is a different type of card from a hybrid. I'm watching 1070, 1080, and 1080 ti SC2 hybrid cards, both EVGA and MSI, MSI Seahawk X cards were designed in concert with Corsair, EVGA made their own hybrid cards, I think. I'm not watching any FTW hybrid cards, since I find the only psu that could possibly handle 4 EVGA 1080 Ti SC2 hybrid video cards, is the Corsair Ax1200i, since it appears one will need 2 power cables per FTW, Ti SC2 Hybrid, and Seahawk EK X card. Ordinary 1070/1080 EVGA hybrid video cards and 1070/1080 MSI Seahawk X video cards only require one 8pin power cable per card. What is the limiting factor on these cards? The tubing length, from the card to the radiator, Zalster uses a 540 case with four 1070 EVGA hybrid video cards. The price was right for Me, this used 540 case cost Me less than $107 delivered. the pic below is of a 740 case that I grabbed from online.

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Message 1867588 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 5:44:55 UTC

if you're going to jam five radiators in most cases you're going to have hoses in three different directions along with the clashing airflow just to have that one display window

with an x9 you can put everything up top and do whatever you want with the front or the bottom
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Message 1867594 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 6:24:29 UTC - in response to Message 1867588.  
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Zoom, hope it's ok if I show them what you are talking about.

I mounted 3 cards with the radiators inside of the case to the 360mm intake opening, the 4th card has it's radiator and fan on the outtake opening in the back. The CPU radiator is mounted on the top

I moved the fans "outside" the case but under the grill in what would be the intake (you can orient the fans to either direction of your choosing)



I have several of these cases, each housing different cards. Some have 980Ti (the 1080Tis SC2 are same size), some have 1070s, others have TitanX that I hybridized. And yes, I have hoses going in all 3 directions. I addressed the issue of any heat in the case by placing spacers on the side with the PSU (a 1600W EVGA) and then making that the bottom of the case. So now that clear plastic panel is the "top" of the computer. But leaving that plastic in only kept the heat in. I tried drilling holes, mounting fans but nothing worked. The best solution was to remove the plastic window and cover it with a mesh. That allowed for passive radiation of the heat.

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Message 1867596 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 6:28:23 UTC - in response to Message 1867588.  

if you're going to jam five radiators in most cases you're going to have hoses in three different directions along with the clashing airflow just to have that one display window

with an x9 you can put everything up top and do whatever you want with the front or the bottom

With the 540 case that I have, that will be all outward airflow, 1 to the rear, 2 to the top, and 1 to the front, the motherboard in there has only 3 pcie slots, with 4 1070/1080/Ti cards, that would be 1 to the rear, 1 to the top, and 3 to the front, all pointing outward, air can come in from the bottom, and the rear vents. The 740 has 120/140mm fan holes in the bottom of the case, and the rear vents I think can mount some smaller fans there too. I can't keep on making changes forever, My income isn't exactly limitless you know.

740 rear view.

View of where the motherboard goes, and the bottom fan holes, minus the hinged door.

The back where the drives and psu goes, and the 740 is nearly tool free, the 2.5" hdd and the dvd drive in the 540 did not need any screws to be mounted, sure the psu did, but I didn't design the case.

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Message 1867597 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 6:36:37 UTC

how would you run four video cards in just three slots
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Message 1867600 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 6:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 1867594.  

That's ok Zalster.

I have an NZXT 810 for a custom looped PC, but this is going to take time, and I have more than a few credit cards and a credit line to pay down now, while boosting My credit score.

I figured the 1080 Ti's might take a lot of power, I thought about not going beyond 2 or 3 with the current case that I have, which would keep the power to a 1200w Corsair psu, 4 1070 MSI 1070 Seahawk EK X cards would also need a 1200w AX1200i psu, 3-EVGA hybrid 1070/4-MSI Seahawk X 1070 cards would not require more than an 850w psu, at least in theory, Corsair in regards to the 850w psu, an HX850i, all psus used would be Platinum level.
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Message 1867602 - Posted: 16 May 2017, 6:57:25 UTC - in response to Message 1867597.  

how would you run four video cards in just three slots

I wouldn't, 3 slots is 3 cards, I have an Asus Rampage IV Extreme motherboard, that is if the Asus RIVE motherboard works fully again, it used to work until a leak developed in a cpu cooler that had a loose screw on the cold plate, this was an Alphacool cpu cooler that I had bought new, of course the email proving that I'd bought the cooler new is long gone, the Asus has 4 slots, and can take 4 cards. To test that Asus RIVE motherboard again, means I need to get a new cpu cooler, and I only have two cpu coolers that are usable right now.
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Message 1867625 - Posted: 17 May 2017, 3:45:11 UTC - in response to Message 1867588.  

if you're going to jam five radiators in most cases you're going to have hoses in three different directions along with the clashing airflow just to have that one display window

with an x9 you can put everything up top and do whatever you want with the front or the bottom

Having a X9 myself I would probably choose to go with a dual stacked X5 setup for a large multi GPU setup.
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Message 1869146 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 19:35:30 UTC

Ok I got the danged Captain 360 EX installed tubes down, it fits. What's the next step?
Getting the parts out to mount the pump/coldplate to the cpu, I may have to do some reading again.

Now I have no problem w/an X9 or an X5 Tt case, it's just not what I have, besides I bought the 540 case used on Amazon, it works for Me.
To retest the Asus Rampage IV Extreme motherboard and the 3820 cpu & 1 stick of ram, I'm planning on getting a Captain 240 EX in Black, there is a White version of course.
I wish there was a Captain 280 EX, but for the moment there isn't. Since I need a working cpu cooler, the Captain 240 EX seems to be the least costly cpu water cooler on Amazon, at least for the moment,
I might be able to get that Captain 240 EX in August, but no promises, the money just has to be there, in June I need to renew My drivers license, there goes $33.00, but it's a necessary expense.
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Message 1869158 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 20:49:15 UTC

so i'm too lazy to read, did you de-lid the cpu? and this motherboard/ram/psu, all this stuff still works? were you going to throw away all those stock fans and get super duper fans?
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Message 1869168 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 21:39:28 UTC - in response to Message 1869158.  

so i'm too lazy to read, did you de-lid the cpu? and this motherboard/ram/psu, all this stuff still works? were you going to throw away all those stock fans and get super duper fans?

I think Xeon cpus are soldered down, the ram, psu, and cpu all work, the stock fans for the Captain 360 EX are being used, all 3 of them.

The motherboard was sold to Me as working. I do have an i5 750 cpu in case the bios is not the latest, so that I can flash the motherboard bios.
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Message 1869170 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 21:45:45 UTC
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If you think it's easy to do anything in My body, it's not, and I do the best that I can, when I feel up to doing something, I do something, lazy I'm not, but then I'm not able bodied anymore, all the work I did today was done while sitting down.

I take 4 Tylenol 650mg extended release caplets a day, and 2 Naproxen Sodium pills for any pain, and to keep any My body temp down to normal, and I have a lot of pain, plus pills for high blood pressure, cholesterol, vitamins C & D, My Doctor wondered why I took Vitamin C, I guess He never heard of scurvy or a lack of vitamin C in the body, I can't tolerate any citrus or pineapple, though if there is cream cheese, pineapple is ok, but bad for the waistline.

3 dislocated joints, OA, 2 ankles ruined to fix a broken left leg, back problems when I stand, I'm 6'1" tall, and some of My weight pulls on My spine, according to the scales I've been on I'm about 440lbs, I also have part of My stomach above My diaphragm, makes it hard to breathe at times, and recently prostate(partial blockage) and kidney problems(cysts).

I should be at sea level, in a coastal area, like Long Beach CA, or Mar Vista CA, or Dominguez CA, or San Gabriel CA, or Alhambra CA, or Lakewood CA, or Culver City CA, but I'm not so lucky, and not rich.
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Message 1871507 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 3:23:56 UTC

I picked up My mail, which included 4.5lbs of powdered whole eggs in 2 bags, and I got a bargain, an Asus RIVBE motherboard that's in perfect condition, the seller couldn't test it, and had terrible pics, but it was packed very well, it has no cracks, and the cpu socket pins are in perfect condition, not bad for $167.15 total delivered(150.00+17.15). I will have to buy a i/o shield, since one was not included, but that is only $6.80 total, and I need an Asetek 2011 bracket kit for testing, I can't find My 2011 screws, there goes another $11.41 on the card.

This will be My last motherboard for a while, I need to pay down a few cards, I've also got a Captain 240EX cpu cooler on the way from Amazon, I wish they had the 280EX for sale, RGB leds or not, so far it's just with a few select Deepcool PC cases.

Once I've tested the Asus RIVE and its 3820 cpu, then I'll test the RIVBE with the Xeon E5-1650 v2 Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz 6 core cpu, I need to post some pics, but today was very HOT, like 103F, and I was out in that driving 2 friends around.

But any testing will be with the Asetek cpu cooler, the 240EX is for when I get a suitable Corsair 740 case, Amazon does love Me.

I also picked up a damaged about a week back, an Asus R3E motherboard, how damaged? Some person used LN on the motherboard I think, and so some of the cpu pins need fixing, thankfully the motherboard was inexpensive, $114.90 delivered(99.95+14.95), and so will the repairs too, bent pins, I'll have an expert do that, since My hands are not steady, and My eyesight is not good enough, repairs could be around $160 total before shipping, still a bargain, even after repairs, at least compared to an intact Asus R3E motherboard.

And I know why didn't I just buy a new motherboard?

Then I'd have to buy a new 5930K cpu and DDR4 ram, and 5930K cpus aren't cheap, these will do nicely, and I have DDR3 ram(memory) that I can test with. I don't like the 5820K cpu, which has only 28 pcie lanes, instead of 40 lanes.

And I still need to work on 2 video cards, one needs heatsinks on the ram and vrm's, and the other just needs screws, a nut, and some washers installed, but I have the pieces at least.
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Message 1871508 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 3:31:52 UTC - in response to Message 1871507.  

And you can't afford to fix your furnace issues, cool.
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Message 1871515 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 4:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 1871508.  
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Oh the furnace will get fixed, that was before I got a couple new cards, I have all Summer, it will get fixed, one way or another, besides I didn't ask for money to do anything. Furnace or not, I even turned in My HD cable tv box, plus when I get the Virgin Mobile 4G modem, I can get off cable for just over 30 days, to get Spectrum Internet Assist, which costs $14.99 a month for 30/4 or maybe 30/5 internet service here, which has an unchangeable New customer requirement, age is not a problem, and how I finance something is My business, same for repairs.

I had tried 3G via My phone, it was very slow, and the adapter driver was buggy enough to corrupt Firefox, I had to uninstall, and then reinstall everything related to the browser.

Even My relatives know as long as I can pay the bills, put food on the table, and keep a roof over My head, I'll be ok.

If you want to criticize Me for what I buy, and how I pay for it, don't.

As that would be unwelcome here, I don't go into Politics, not here at least.
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Message 1872110 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017, 1:40:43 UTC

Ok I put the Intel Xeon 1650 v2 3.5GHz Ivy Bridge cpu in the Asus Rampage IV Black Edition today, getting the energy to do this was not easy.

This is where this motherboard will stay for a bit until I can do some testing, and even after that it will stay there until I can use a credit card to get a case, but that may be a while, but I've got time.

A pic of the damaged Asus Rampage III Extreme, the cpu socket has some bent pins. Sorry if the pic doesn't show the bent pins. Both motherboards were steals, price wise.

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