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HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Tech Report's endurance experiment finally ended. It had a surprising winner. In my main gaming machine I'm wearing the 240GB SSD about 1% a year according to the Sandisk app. However I'll probably be upgrading to a 480-512GB in the next year or so. Then rotate the 240GB into my HTPC which is running an older 120GB SSD now. I have been running BOINC on the SSDs since I got them. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Tech Report's endurance experiment finally ended. It had a surprising winner. I've been running two Samsung 840 Pro's in my daily driver / gaming machine running BOINC for a year now. With RAID 0, I'm getting some highly impressive 1GB/s (yes, Gigabyte per second, not Gigabit per second) transfer rates! :-D |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Samsung 840 250 GB gives me about 100 MB/s on this HP 635 running SuSE Linux 13.1.Much better performance of an OCZ 120 GB, on my SUN WS which gives more than 200 MB/s as second disk. The first is a 1 TB hybrid Seagate 2.5 inches which gives the same performance of the Samsung although it spins at only 5400 RPM. Tullio |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13751 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
The first is a 1 TB hybrid Seagate 2.5 inches which gives the same performance of the Samsung although it spins at only 5400 RPM. For very short bursts; sustained speeds are nowhere near that of a SSD. And for random I/O the hybrid HDD, like all other HDDs, isn't even in the race. Grant Darwin NT |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
My data are those of the hdparm tool of Linux.The performance of the Samsung 840 is vastly inferior to the one advertised. Tullio |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Samsung 840 250 GB gives me about 100 MB/s on this HP 635 running SuSE Linux 13.1. Sounds like a regular Samsung 840, which performed considerably worse than the 840 Pro series, which topped all the disk benchmarks a year ago. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
The older OCZ Vertex Plus is performing substantially better then the Samsung. I took it off this laptop and put it a a second disk on my older SUN WS as a swap disk. Tullio |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6653 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
I just recently bought and installed a 1 TB Samsung 850 PRO, and I went from 20-25 minute boot up times to a complete restart in less than 3 minutes. I wish they had included the 850 in their tests, but this drive has a 10 year warranty. Now that I have made the jump to SSD, I will never go back! This thing is fantastic! Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
The older OCZ Vertex Plus is performing substantially better then the Samsung. I took it off this laptop and put it a a second disk on my older SUN WS as a swap disk. But is your Samsung a regular 840 or a 840 Pro, as there is a vast difference in their performance? I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
It is a regular 840 MZ-7TD250. Tullio |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
I just recently bought and installed a 1 TB Samsung 850 PRO, and I went from 20-25 minute boot up times to a complete restart in less than 3 minutes. I wish they had included the 850 in their tests, but this drive has a 10 year warranty. Now that I have made the jump to SSD, I will never go back! I made that jump with a 128GB 840 Pro on my system drive 2 years ago, but had to RMA it because it died a 18 months ago,and swapped out my data drive w/ another 128GB a little over a year ago. The only HDD on my system is a WD 256GB and is used for backup and system restore. It takes approx. 1.5 - 2 minutes to get the system completely up and running from a cold start. The only way I'll go back is to have one of them die and then it will only be temporary until it can be replaced. I'm an old man and they just might outlast me. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I have a 2 TB hard disk on my latest PC. It is a HP Pavilion 500-152ea and I suspect it is a Seagate hybrid. No information is given on the brochure. Hardware manuals do not exist, even online. Boot time in Windows 8.1 is about 2 minutes. Tullio |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
boot up times to a complete restart in less than 3 minutes. My current boot time is ~15-20 seconds from power on to login screen. It only takes about another 10 seconds once I log in to load all my startup applications (which I keep very low as a matter of habit). Now that I have made the jump to SSD, I will never go back! Agreed. :-) Now I have to try to resist the urge to go around upgrading all my machines to SSDs lest I go broke doing so! :-D |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I just recently bought and installed a 1 TB Samsung 850 PRO, and I went from 20-25 minute boot up times to a complete restart in less than 3 minutes. I wish they had included the 850 in their tests, but this drive has a 10 year warranty. Now that I have made the jump to SSD, I will never go back! You had a 20-25 minute boot up time? What the heck is your machine doing at start up. Loading the matrix? And I mean the actual matrix not the movie or game. :P Is the 850 the replacement product for the 840 or just a higher end series? In either case I would hope for the same or better out of it vs the 840. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6653 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
I just recently bought and installed a 1 TB Samsung 850 PRO, and I went from 20-25 minute boot up times to a complete restart in less than 3 minutes. I wish they had included the 850 in their tests, but this drive has a 10 year warranty. Now that I have made the jump to SSD, I will never go back! The 850 is an upgrade from the 840. It took top marks in the research I did. I have a full developers installation of LabVIEW with hundreds of device drivers, along with many, many other programs. Visual Studio 2008, SQL Server 2008, and of course hundreds of naked dancing girls! That is what caused the long boot up times. Now, once the desktop appears, I am at full usage in just a few seconds. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34945 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I just recently bought and installed a 1 TB Samsung 850 PRO, and I went from 20-25 minute boot up times to a complete restart in less than 3 minutes. I wish they had included the 850 in their tests, but this drive has a 10 year warranty. Now that I have made the jump to SSD, I will never go back! I also have to wonder about those times as both my rigs use 128GB Crucial M4's as boot drives with just Windows and most of my major programs installed on them while WD black HDD's handle data, BOINC, swap files and files being worked on. From a cold start my 3570K is ready to use in 17sec's and my 2500K in 20sec's (more than half that time is taken up by the motherboards initialising), yes that is seconds, and even when I was using WD black HDD's as my boot drives those boot times were still not much longer than a minute (and well less than 2min's). So yeah I also have to wonder what the heck you're loading at boot. [edit] you beat me to it Steve. Cheers. |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6653 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
Basically, I have 650 Gig filled on a 1 TB drive as the main drive. I have 4 other 1 TB internal drives for files and games, and another 4 TB for external drives for my Wildlife Outdoor Webcam. I also have a 5 TB external detached backup drive, for making me ransom-ware proof. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Is the 850 the replacement product for the 840 or just a higher end series? In either case I would hope for the same or better out of it vs the 840. There is both an 840 and 840 Pro, likewise an 850 and 850 Pro. The Pro series are getting top marks. In this case, the 850 Pro uses newer 3D NAND technology with better performance and a few minor bugfixes in the firmware. I'm pretty sure you can update the 840 Pro firmware to get the same fixes. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
I'll be finding out this weekend what Vanilla Win10 tech preview boot times will be on a 850 Pro 256 GiB, on an older Core2Duo that doubles as my Linux Box. Back when I switched my main development machine to Intel chipset RAID 10, that was near vanilla Win7 w/sp1. clean like that it was able to acheive boot to desktop times in the sub 20 second region, though naturally filling the drive and all sorts of installed services and drivers entropy have brought that close to the 40 second mark. That's 4 1TB seagate barracudas, 2 from the original raid install remaining, and 2 newer spares manufactured after the floods. The main dev machine only has Sata2, while the Linux machine may have sata3, which I'll be checking, so it'll be an interesting comparison for me. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34261 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Is the 850 the replacement product for the 840 or just a higher end series? In either case I would hope for the same or better out of it vs the 840. I have a 850 Evo and getting same speed as the pro version. I read that the difference between the Evo and Pro is just the warranty. To be fair i`m almost certain that the drive won`t last the warranty span. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
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