Oh, please.
Get over yourself already.
Silencer, leave Janne and his flag. Alone.
The topic is. Racist?

I wonder what Janne and his flag has to do with racism to do:)
Anyway. Racism is a subset of xenophobia. Full period.

Subset or union?

That was a tricky question.
Xenophobia is a set.
But a union is union of more than one sets...

Oh, please.
Get over yourself already.
Silencer, leave Janne and his flag. Alone.
The topic is. Racist?

I wonder what Janne and his flag has to do with racism to do:)
Anyway. Racism is a subset of xenophobia. Full period.

Subset or union?

That was a tricky question.
Xenophobia is a set.
But a union is union of more than one sets...

Wasn't thinking straight.

In any case the thought process behind the sets is identical.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77901&postid=1730245 wrote:

I think that lack of education feeds murderer, rapists and traffickers.
It doesn't take a criminologist to figure that out just by looking the education level at convicted persons.

Made me think for a second ....
http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet wrote:

If current trends continue, one in three black males born today can expect to spend time in prison during his lifetime

(Preview won't allow cut/paste, but that is okay as there is additional good reading starting chapter 11 page 235.)
https://books.google.com/books?id=s4CKqxi6yWIC&pg=PA241&lpg=PA241&dq=iq+of+convicts&source=bl&ots=gaz2g5ykAd&sig=BO0iRMHhs75zsmKOvq6h0_pqqng&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBmoVChMItYnYvf-dyAIVEjOICh1TGQNq#v=onepage&q=iq%20of%20convicts&f=false
Page 242 indicates the average criminal scores about 10 IQ points lower than the average non-criminal 92 / 102. Also that IQ difference is testable at age 4!

https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html wrote:

AFRICAN AMERICANS currently score lower than European Americans on vocabulary, reading, and mathematics tests, as well as on tests that claim to measure scholastic aptitude and intelligence. This gap appears before children enter kindergarten (figure 1-1), and it persists into adulthood. It has narrowed since 1970, but the typical American black still scores below 75 percent of American whites on most standardized tests. On some tests the typical American black scores below more than 85 percent of whites?

The black-white test score gap does not appear to be an inevitable fact of nature. It is true that the gap shrinks only a little when black and white children attend the same schools. It is also true that the gap shrinks only a little when black and white families have the same amount of schooling, the same income, and the same wealth. But despite endless speculation, no one has found genetic evidence indicating that blacks have less innate intellectual ability than whites.

Also consider ...
http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2012/5/1-17541_Study-Prison-Inmate-Intelligence-Influences-Miscon_article-wide.html wrote:

A prison inmate’s IQ, as well as the average IQ of a prison unit, can play a role in predicting violent prison misconduct, according to a recently published UT Dallas study.
...
The findings show that inmates with above average IQs were at a reduced risk of being involved in a violent incident and individuals assigned to units with a higher average IQ score were significantly less likely to commit violent behavior.

https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html wrote:

When black or mixed-race children are raised in white rather than black homes, their preadolescent test scores rise dramatically. Black adoptees' scores seem to fall in adolescence, but this is what we would expect if, as seems likely, their social and cultural environment comes to resemble that of other black adolescents and becomes less like that of the average white adolescent.

Taking all of this together is very interesting. It seems to indicate that if we are going to use affirmative action as a tool that it needs to be applied at the preschool level! By the time of college or looking for a job it is far too late to effect change on a large scale. It also seems to indicate that there is something in African Culture that holds children back, as no genetic difference evidence exists; that some sort of group think, or lack thereof, is a large factor.

A long read http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/ but an important one. After reading this, is it white privilege that has formed the ghetto and African Culture such that children brought up there are at such a disadvantage?

This begs the question, what action will work? Simply giving money to leave the ghetto will not. The ghetto culture will not instantly evaporate from the people just because they aren't living in the ghetto. Giving better schools at grade school is already too late for differences noted at age 4! (of course it will help, just not nearly enough) What might work is that the children in school today are taught they they can't bring up their children as they were, they must bring them up different so they are not behind even before they enter school. (Classes on how to be a white parent, something that is foreign to their culture) Obviously this is a several generation fix.


[it is getting late and I have to hit post and get some sleep, so this is unfinished]

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Women kicked off Napa Valley Wine Train file $11m racial discrimination suit

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Reality Internet Personality

Three Caucasian young people (they look to me like they are in their 20's) are currently accused of killing an elderly man who was out walking his dog in a public park in the SF Bay Area. This has been a big news story in our area lately. It was a horrific crime and my heart breaks for the victim's widow and for the victim's family and friends.

The suspects are innocent until proven guilty, of course, but the news media reported some pretty damning evidence linking these three suspects with this murder and, tragically, with another murder of a Canadian citizen who was visiting the area to attend a musical festival a few months ago. It is possible, even probable, that at least one of these three young people will ultimately be convicted of two murders, and that the other two will be convicted of being accomplices to two murders.

As I was turning off the television this morning and sailing out the door, I heard a correspondent on our local news station describe these three youths as "drifters" and "lost souls".

If these three young people had darker skin, I am pretty sure that the same news anchor would have described them as "monsters" and/or "thugs".

Institutionalized racism. Sadly, it is just not all that hard to find in our country.

May our recognition of it lead to its eradication.

Peace on earth.

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As I was turning off the television this morning and sailing out the door, I heard a correspondent on our local news station describe these three youths as "drifters" and "lost souls".

If these three young people had darker skin, I am pretty sure that the same news anchor would have described them as "monsters" and/or "thugs".

The anchor or the news writer? Well, we know that they are in the business to sell advertising and the more eyeballs they have the more they can sell. Sorry if I'm a cynic but they pander to what they can. Of course that just adds fuel to the fire.

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Anchor or news writer - doesn't really matter who decided to call these three suspects "drifters" and "lost souls".

Three white kids, who may very well have committed two horrific murders, were described in relatively kind terms on the local news I tuned into this morning. My point is simply that young people of color are not generally shown the same relative kindness.

I do not think that the anchor (or news writer) was even aware that young suspects of color are generally not shown such kindness. I do not think the anchor (or news writer) is a bad person, is an overtly racist person or is guilty of having some subversive financial agenda. I do not think that the anchor (or news writer) tries to get a larger audience by calling young suspects of color less kind terms. People tend to tune into crime stories, especially so if they happen nearby. Perhaps I am naive, but I do not think audience size (at least consciously!!!) has anything to do with what descriptors are applied to various suspects. Local people watch the local news to hear about local crimes. (Probably just one of those evolutionary by-products that assists us in self preservation...) Audience size is probably pretty consistent when a local, violent crime is committed.

The title of this thread is "Racist? [yes you are]", I presume to remind us all that racial bias is deeply ingrained in our culture and that we should recognize it in ourselves so that when it rears its ugly head we see it for what it is and then will ourselves, consciously, not to be be influenced by it or act upon it. I suspect that the anchor (or news writer) was unaware of his (or her???) racial bias this morning.

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Could be wrong, but Walter Cronkite and journalism passed away a long time ago. Corporate bean counters now run the newsroom and those story ticklers and headlines are written in the marketing department, not the news department. Large corporations own most media today and corporate bean counters rule the roost.

I remember one a local TV station got into a lot of trouble over. Mid afternoon they ran a tickler for the evening news "Boil water alert issued, film at 11" Raised a lot of panic because they didn't say where! Of course it did its purpose to get people to watch their news. IIRC that station was forced to can the person a couple months later when their FCC/public file was full of complaints. He had been brought in as a big hotshot for getting ratings up.

So I think the people who write these headlines/stories are very much aware of how to word them to cause panic and get eyeballs to watch a train wreck. Then there is the station's lawyer. Being white, the lawyer might actually be worried that if they use strong language the suspects might have enough to hire a lawyer to sue the station, he isn't concerned about that for a person of color who he can use color as a card with the jury if it happens.

So not only is it institutionalized, they are intentionally exploiting it. Racist? [yes you are]

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In Brazil 81 percent of the country's 204 million inhabitants are watching on TV every night. Since the majority of the population is Afro-Brazilian you would think that it should be crawling with series of colored actresses in the lead role.

The truth is that it was not until a few weeks ago before a Brazilian television series had a black couple in the lead role. The series broke apartheid called "Mister Brau".

http://especiaiss3.gshow.globo.com/series/gshow/misterbrau/materias/464.html

Sweden school killings: Attacker 'had racist motives'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34612000
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/23/pictured-hero-teaching-assistant-cut-down-by-sweden-school-killer-trying-to-save-his-pupils-5457739/

It isn't all in the USA ...
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/10/26/genocide-myanmar-rohingya.html

By eleven minutes in to the video you will have heard the entire GOP load of crap about non-whites, but spoken about Rohingya, not blacks and Latinos.

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Ah, someone else has issues with stop and frisk ...
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/ontarios-carding-ban-could-be-model-for-other-193550163.html

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/us/racism-problem-cnn-kff-poll/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/26/us/ferguson-racism-or-racial-bias/index.html

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http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2015/12/12/Study-Harder-to-get-Airbnb-room-with-black-sounding-name/1181449962005/

CAMBRIDGE, Mass., Dec. 12 (UPI) -- When Harvard researchers sent out fictitious rental requests to several thousand Airbnb hosts in the United States, those with "black-sounding names" were less likely to be accepted than those with "white-sounding names."

Distinctively African American names used by researchers included Lakisha, Latoya, Rasheed, Darnell and others. Distinctively white names included names such as Anne, Kristen, Brad and Todd.

Black-sounding names earned an approval rate of 43 percent, while white-sounding names were approved 50 percent of the time. Researchers say the discrepancy was consistent whether the host reviewing applications was white or black, male or female.

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Therefore...

7% difference.

According to The Left and The Right: Should have been MUCH bigger.

Cite please?

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Therefore...

7% difference.

According to The Left and The Right: Should have been MUCH bigger.

Cite please?

Opinion.

Ah so, as valid as the left or the right.

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Therefore...

7% difference.

According to The Left and The Right: Should have been MUCH bigger.

Cite please?

Opinion.

Ah so, as valid as the left or the right.

Both of their beliefs are incorrect. Regarding percentage of white racism in The West.

Until you provide a cite listing what percentage they believe you are just venting bovine waste.

A 7% increase, regarding 'dismissing' a 'Black' name, over a 'White' name:

Fails to disclose pervasive Racism.

7% is statistically significant. However you seem to be setting up an argument that 'pervasive' is equivalent to 'universal' so you can declare yourself on the high moral ground.

pervasive: adjective: spreading widely throughout an area or a group of people

widely: adverb: over a large area

Since the study did not indicate that the statistically significant observed effect was concentrated into a single area or group of people in the USA, I would say 'pervasive' is a correct word to describe it. Your dictionary may be different.

Of course you may be trying to say that 7% overt racists is not a large amount of overt racism. Run with that if you wish, but don't confuse the number of acts with the geographic distribution of those acts.

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Therefore...

7% difference.

According to The Left and The Right: Should have been MUCH bigger.

Cite please?

Opinion.

Ah so, as valid as the left or the right.

Both of their beliefs are incorrect. Regarding percentage of white racism in The West.

Until you provide a cite listing what percentage they believe you are just venting bovine waste.

A 7% increase, regarding 'dismissing' a 'Black' name, over a 'White' name:

Fails to disclose pervasive Racism.

7% is statistically significant. However you seem to be setting up an argument that 'pervasive' is equivalent to 'universal' so you can declare yourself on the high moral ground.

pervasive: adjective: spreading widely throughout an area or a group of people

widely: adverb: over a large area

Since the study did not indicate that the statistically significant observed effect was concentrated into a single area or group of people in the USA, I would say 'pervasive' is a correct word to describe it. Your dictionary may be different.

Of course you may be trying to say that 7% overt racists is not a large amount of overt racism. Run with that if you wish, but don't confuse the number of acts with the geographic distribution of those acts.

Very Intelligent, Logical and Non Adolescent name calling, thinking.

Gary...

You are consistent. But Intellectually Boring.

:) :) :)

From your posts I don't think most people would believe you would recognise Intellect even if it bit you on the ___.

Half way around the world
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/101east/2013/11/locked-up-warriors-201311481133704146.html

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Ah, over in Europe:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/02/debunks-false-rumours-refugee-crimes-160216153329110.html

Last month, conservative German magazine Focus was criticised after running a cover story on the New Year's Eve assaults on women in Cologne, in which at least 18 asylum seekers were identified as suspects, showing a white naked woman whose skin had been stamped with handprints of black paint.

Liberal publication Suddeutsche Zeitung also apologised at the time for printing a picture of a black arm reaching up between a pair of white female legs to portray the Cologne sex attacks.

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