Oh, yes, I'm guilty. I've made a purchase at WalMart. Only place us poor white trash can find the things we need at an affordable price. And yes, after shopping there you feel like you need a shower.

We feel the same at Tesco.

Are you a racist Chris S?

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2015/05/11/fox-driven-outrage-over-asu-professors-course-on-whiteness-drew-threats-neo-nazi-activists/

Fox-Driven Outrage Over ASU Professor’s Course on ‘Whiteness’ Drew Threats, Neo-Nazi Activists

English professor Lee Bebout intended to be thought-provoking when he offered a course at Arizona State University (ASU) titled “Race Theory and the Problem of Whiteness.” He had no idea that it would also provoke the wrath of, first, Fox News viewers, and then, white supremacists, sparking protests on campus, and yet ultimately drawing the explicit support of ASU administrators.
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“Clearly we have a lot of work to go, as a society, in terms of racial tension,” Clark continued. “But having a class that suggests an entire race is the problem is inappropriate, wrong, and, frankly, counterproductive. I wonder what students like myself are taking out of this course when they learn all about all this negative racial tension out in society. There’s a lot of negative implications here.”

Ah, calling everyone guilty for the acts of a few. Don't they say that, collective punishment is a war crime?

In reality, the course is a fairly standard academic study of race in modern society. As ASU administrators explained at the time the controversy erupted: “This course uses literature and rhetoric to look at how stories shape people’s understandings and experiences of race. It encourages students to examine how people talk about – or avoid talking about – race in the contemporary United States. This is an interdisciplinary course, so students will draw on history, literature, speeches and cultural changes – from scholarly texts to humor. The class is designed to empower students to confront the difficult and often thorny issues that surround us today and reach thoughtful conclusions rather than display gut reactions. A university is an academic environment where we discuss and debate a wide array of viewpoints.”

So the class isn't about race, but about being challenged with complex controversial ideas and how to debate them.

“[The] course looked like a pretty good critical thinking course to me,” Crow said. “It looked like it was doing what it was supposed to do, which is to deal with a complex subject through literature and get students interested in talking and writing and thinking about that complex subject.”

Confirmed.
Sounds like just what should be being taught, but perhaps the course title needs a tweak.

Bebout explained that he and a graduate student had been carefully following white supremacist/nationalist sites even before the controversy erupted, and particularly afterward.

“Since my class came under the attention of white supremacists, I noticed that NYF and other groups regularly post stories from Fox News and Campus Reform as ‘proof’ for their ideology,” he said. “While these outlets like Fox News and Campus Reform certainly use different rhetoric than National Youth Front, it would be erroneous to say that they are completely separate discursively or ideologically (one being colorblind and the other being explicitly racist). Indeed, I am fascinated with how much they share in common in terms of rhetoric and ideology.”

So colorblind is racist. Ergo you must explicitly use color as a basis for decisions to be sure you aren't discriminating on the basis of color. Many of us see that as a bit of circular logic. Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of that kind of thinking in the social "sciences."

Well, as my previous post says, police reforms (going color neutral or colorblind) won't solve the problem. Perhaps that is the issue with the social science on race. The academics know that it won't work, but are unable to realize the overriding issue is poverty as that is outside their field and paycheck.

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But black and White are not colors.
Only Red, Blue and Green are colors.
Red people when out in the sun to much.
Blue people is very rare. Blue Babies however. My brother when he was born was one.
Green People. :) Yes LGM...

Anyone outside of the USA that posts here, by default lives in a much smaller country that would likely fit into a typical USA State a number of times

Chris umm we only have 6 states and 1 Terrortory and we can put many of the U.S states in just my home state , then if you talk W.A you can put almost 50% of the states in the U.S in just Western Australia.

And Clyde each state here has it's own laws but unlike you guys the Federal Gov has the last say . In the parts it does not then unlike you lot we get togeather and hammer out a agreement that will let the Federal gov have the last say . That is what a Country does , instead of being childish which seems to happen in your country . Our country is not that much different when you are talking States right vers Fedral only dof is we are not Freaking childish like you lot seem to be

Reread my post again you are not very smart at least as smart as you think

To many jurisdictions . To many small town thinking !

Maybe some federal agreement mite be in order , after all is not policing national security ? if it's causing social problems and unrest

Is not what is going on causing problems ! ,then you need to FREAKING grow up , Its not ignorance. of your system mate

... The academics know that it won't work, but are unable to realize the overriding issue is poverty as that is outside their field and paycheck.

Do you feel better now you've shifted the blame?

The Blame Frame:
Justifying (Racial) Injustice in America

Operating largely subconsciously, blame frames are our secret palliative—a coping mechanism for times when the dissonance between reality and ideals threatens to overwhelm what we so desperately wish to see. It is these persistent, pervasive, and robust blame frames that make our great confusion possible: they minimize the chasm we otherwise would have to face between our shared experiences and our common, deeply held values of “liberty,” “justice,” and “equality.

p.429

Despite the legal changes declaring some free in name, the natural order of things remained axed, consigning the entire race to “a subordinate and inferior class of beings, who had been subjugated by the dominant race” and thus “had no rights or privileges but such as those who held the power and the Government might choose to grant them.”

p.434 - could this be a clue as to why black people are more likely be consigned to poverty? Could poverty be a symptom of racism, not just a thing that 'happened' by accident somehow?

Those trends have been attributed generally to underlying “economic
distress and political frustration.” Fearing socio-economic competition from freed blacks and an upheaval in the southern social hierarchy, whites used lynching as the violent counterpart to Jim Crow segregation and disfranchisement to preserve the antebellum state of power relations. Toward that end, lynching served at least three main functions beyond the punishment of an alleged offense:
"[F]irst, to maintain social order over the black population through terrorism; second, to suppress or eliminate black competitors for economic, political, or social rewards; and third, to stabilize the white class structure and preserve the privileged status of the white aristocracy."

Although exact numbers are not clear, even conservative estimates suggest that at least 3500 African Americans were lynched during the late 1800s and early 1900s. The raw numbers are by no means the most chilling aspect of the lynching culture. The events often became community spectacles, in which large crowds the lynch mob would gather, people would bring their children, and families would cheer as the black victim met his death. Far from the province of a lawless underclass, local political and business leaders often organized lynchings. As one scholar puts it, “[l]ynching had become a ritual of interracial social control and recreation rather than simply a punishment for crime.” The lynchings typically were framed as a justified response to the danger that brutish male Negroes posed to white women.

p. 438
Yes, racism is the real problem, poverty is its legacy. NOT the cause.

2. The Modern Blame Frame
Today’s racism, despite all the new names describing it, is actually not so different from older forms. To be sure, the bottles have been relabeled, but their contents and intoxicating effects are strikingly unchanged. Like Lerner’s subjects, our generation has invented a way to justify existing inequalities across groups. Racial inequalities today are only rarely said to manifest God’s will or nature’s design; individuals who advance such views are often seen as motivated by ignorance, malignance, or both. Instead, racial inequalities are attributed mostly to the victim’s preferences, tastes, personality, and other factors that influence her resultant choices.

Yet, as always, disparities in power and wealth are actually generated through the mostly unseen situation. What has changed, then, is the dispositional story that explains and excuses the results of those primarily situational forces.

p. 444 (my emphasis)

So Gary is still playing the blame game to shift the cause of injustice to a place he finds more comfortable.

Because “racists” are people with ugly prejudices or malignant dispositions, most of us do not perceive ourselves to be racists—indeed, we abhor such people; by adopting this definition, we comfort ourselves with the assurance that we are not among them. Any suggestion that a person, a group, or our system is “racist” is considered a serious attack. To make such a claim falsely or even to suggest it carelessly—that is, to play the “race card”—is itself an egregious injustice that typically eclipses the purported injustice that prompted the claim. Because “racism” is a dispositionist charge based on inferences from a person’s behavior,and because the accused “racist” has privileged access to her own conscious attitudes and reasoning, very few accusations of racism go unchallenged and the accused virtually always can (and usually do) take offense. Inasmuch as we all want to believe that our system is just, we all have a stake in denying that “racism” somehow underlies systemic outcomes and common practices. Anyone alleging that unequal outcomes are the consequence of racism therefore takes a profound risk. In sum, the “race card,” is typically trumped by the “race-card card.”

p.477
and

Intentional oppression is, sadly, not a prerequisite for injustice. Racial oppression has long thrived in this country, despite claimed good intentions and justified attitudes, policies, and practices. Believing that most promoters of racial injustice in America have not judged others by the “content of their character” is a fundamental mistake. Character judgments, in fact, have long served as a principal justification for oppression. Our mistake is, not in neglecting character, but in attributing to “character” what should be attributed to the victim’s situation and, in turn, to our system and ourselves. In other words, we have allowed ourselves to be deceived by blame frames—that is our greatest confusion.

p.480

I suggest everyone reads this paper. I've pulled out some more salient quotes, but I cannot do its depth justice. It covers many of the points that have been raised in this thread and explains the idea of how humans seek natural justice and then construct "blame frames" to justify why someone might not be getting it.

Gary's reaching to blame poverty in isolation is just one of these schemas.

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Reality Internet Personality

Tsk, tsk, tsk. What a temper tantrum.

Were you stomping your feet as you typed this?

Many believe your County sucks.

You believe my country sucks.

So?

No mate . Just answering you . which was a silly answer our Country's are much the same when it comes to the States but you lot just whinge about why you can't do this or can't do that because of this in our constution or because a famous person long ago says that

Childish is what it is .

Good you think our country suck's then we don't have to let you come here or worry about you coming here .

Maybe this is why you keep trying to interfear .

Oh you won't mind then if we tell you troops that are training up north to "F" off then and tell your ships to also do the same . Don't bother knocking on our door anymore when you want us to help you win your stupid wars you keep starting . Now that was a temper tantrum Clyde see the diff mate

Remember: Everything comes in three's.

Arh darn i'm a Libra we can't chuck 3 tantrums in a row mate sorry .

But... I love you man.

Back at ya bro ...but not in a gay love way thou !!!!! I hope that's what you mean :)

This may help some understand the sheer size.

Could i ask you to redo do this time put Australia over the U.S mainland



I'm a bit thick Gary ...

Australia would fit into the US 1 and a quarter times.

However in population terms

America has 13 times the population.

USA 320,864,380 (approx)

Australia 23,608,104 (approx)

So the problems of the two countries cannot really be compared, most of Australia's population is concentrated on the coasts.

Just a a comparison the UK (about 40 times smaller than Australia) has a population of

63,181,775 (approx)

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If size matters.

Russia 17 075 200 km²
Europe 10 180 000 km²
USA 9 826 675 km²
China 9 596 961 km²
Australia 7 692 024 km²

Are russians racists?
The Russian word for the herb, ukrop, has been used by supporters of the rebels as a pejorative for Ukrainian troops.

Are russians racists?
The Russian word for the herb, ukrop, has been used by supporters of the rebels as a pejorative for Ukrainian troops.

Why would you suggest that Russians are racist just because they have a large land mass?

And what has a Russian word for a herb got to do with racism?

Perhaps you should take a look closer to home. Swedish racism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Russia

Racism in Russia appears mainly in the form of negative attitudes and actions by Russians towards people who are not considered ethnically Russian. Traditionally, Russian racism included antisemitism, as well as hostility towards various ethnicities of Caucasus and Central Asia.[1] The director of the Moscow Bureau for Human Rights, Alexander Brod, stated that surveys show xenophobia and other racist expressions are prevalent in 50 percent of Russians.[2] In 2006, Amnesty International reported that racism in Russia was "out of control" and estimated the number of Russian neo-Nazis at around 85,000 in 2008.[3][4] But despite all this Russia is the second largest immigration receiver after the United States. Russia has also one of highest immigration rates in Eastern Europe.[5]

Are you questioning my knowledge about Russia?
It's how you say ykrop "укроп" and in what context.
Actually it means dill:)
If I call you a potatohead what should you say Chris?

I DONT NEED LECTURES IN SWEDISH RASCIM!
I see it EVERY day!!!!

You are xenophobic Chris.

But I must admit I thought that Australia was rather smaller than that, I would have guessed 2-3 times a fit into the USA.

There ya go Chris bigger than you think . It's as wide and as long at it's widest points BIG

Doesn't change the fact we are 7 separate country's acting as 1 and we don't see the problems the U.S has with it's police force .

It's not just to many states it's to many jurastickions in those states payed by Local councils

Police should be pay'd by the state under one training . At least you might have a chance of stopping the racism and stop some of the rorting and corruption .

Australia 7 692 024 km²

but but , 4th largest Island , the rest of ya have to gang up togeather to call your self a Island , Antarica is too cold to live so where no.1 , nanna

See we got plenty of space to blow of steam , you lot are all mad , too many of you and nowhere to just get away with out millions of people everywhere .

The Russian are just bone heads drunk on Vodka all day to keep them warm

The Russian are just bone heads drunk on Vodka all day to keep them warm

Indeed.
But could you blame them.
I saw a docu from the coldest town in Siberia, sometimes -60 degrees C. brr
There the police drives through the Town when its colder then -30 and pick up drunk people sleeping in the snow!

Some of us are quite gregarious, we don't all choose to live a solitary life as a hermit.

Who are US and WE ?

Some of us are quite gregarious, we don't all choose to live a solitary life as a hermit.

Who are US and WE ?

United States & Western Europe, though you would've realised that :-)

Some of us are quite gregarious, we don't all choose to live a solitary life as a hermit.

Who are US and WE ?

United States & Western Europe, though you would've realised that :-)

LOL :)
So that means that the rest of the World are hermits.

Some of us are quite gregarious, we don't all choose to live a solitary life as a hermit.

Who are US and WE ?

United States & Western Europe, though you would've realised that :-)

LOL :)
So that means that the rest of the World are hermits.

Well that would include England (as we won't be calling it the U.K for long ) and there opting out of the E.U

Us Hermits Australia , N.Z , South America , South Africa and Asia and Every other country's will just do what hermits do shut shop !!!

NO Diamonds , Gold , Urainium , Rear Earth's , or other commodities and let you lot fight your own wars ........oh no more I phones (made in China)

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Some of us are quite gregarious, we don't all choose to live a solitary life as a hermit.

Who are US and WE ?

United States & Western Europe, though you would've realised that :-)

LOL :)
So that means that the rest of the World are hermits.

Well that would include England (as we won't be calling it the U.K for long ) and there opting out of the E.U

Us Hermits Australia , N.Z , South America , South Africa and Asia and Every other country's will just do what hermits do shut shop !!!

NO Diamonds , Gold , Urainium , Rear Earth's , or other commodities and let you lot fight your own wars ........oh no more I phones (made in China)

You really believe that? They dont sell they dont make money. How long do you really think China would hold back exports To teach any nation a lesson? Not Long I bet. They need that cash coming to keep their own economy afloat. The politicians wanted a world economy. Well they have one know. One country does and will affect another.
And I think the world world would be better off with fewer any phones.

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