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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30684 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2015/3/10/crack-baby-myth.html Crack baby myth goes up in smoke but ..... Hurt spearheaded the groundbreaking study, following the babies of mothers who smoked crack during their pregnancy between 1989 and 1992 – the height of the crack epidemic. Now you are all wondering what this has to do with race. America has a very high incarceration rate for blacks, well out of proportion to their numbers in society. America also has blacks being poor out of proportion to their numbers in society. As this study says being poor and exposed to violence is a good predictor of future issues, how does that play into the high proportion of blacks in the criminal justice system? Has any study attempted to correct for their poverty and violence in the ghetto while looking at their rate in the criminal justice system? I really doubt it explains all of it, or even a majority. However it might explain why cops practice DWB. They may want to practice DWP (driving while poor) but it can be hard to tell looking at someone if they are poor, but skin color is easier to see. As many blacks are poor, it isn't a bad bet, and the cops make more arrests with the tactic, becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. If even 20% came from poverty, that would be enough to begin a vicious cycle. This only highlights why America must get rid of poverty. Ready for that tax increase, or do you want to be the victim of another robber? Either way, Robin Hood is at work. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
That would be well and good if that is what most black people were in prison for. They are not. For some reason you have made the assumption that all black people are rapists, robbers and murderers. Reality Internet Personality |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
The Reasons Why So Many Black People Are in Prison Go Well Beyond Profiling Ironically, Whites are more likely to be found with illegal drugs or weapons than Blacks or Latinos. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Cops dont send peoples to prisons. The jury system and the judge in the US does. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Cops dont send peoples to prisons. They have to make it in front of a jury first. The cops put them there. The system means that they are less likely to be able to get good legal representation. Bias and racism means they are more likely to get convicted and will get harsher sentences. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Cops dont send peoples to prisons. Sigh... |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
This is getting silly. The American judiciary therefore believe that a proportion of criminal suspects must be either black or white. Let's say that during a week with just black suspects they all end up in jail. Another week it is just white suspects and everyone gets acquitted. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
This is getting silly. I don't understand what you are trying to say. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
This is getting silly. Of course you do. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
This is getting silly. No I don't. I wouldn't say I didn't if I did. Can you please clarify what you are trying to say as I am not getting your point. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
This is getting silly. The US jury is selected to be a cross section of the US population. They determine whether the accused is guilty or not. The judge decides what penalty the convicted should have. Get my Point? |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
This is getting silly. Not really. Mainly because you haven't explained why it is relevant. Racial bias is inherent at all stages of this process. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Racial bias is inherent at all stages of this process is true. But it's the justice system in America that sentence people. Not only in America. All countries do the same. Even in Africa! Edit: Sorry, America is not a country. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Racial bias is inherent at all stages of this process is true. If I am understanding you then in Africa there would be more black people in jail because there are more black people. In the US there should be more white people in jail because there are more white people. That however is not the case. So the prejudice with the American or even the European system is much easier to spot. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
If I am understanding you then in Africa there would be more black people in jail because there are more black people. No. There are racism in Africa as well. As in arab countries. Surprised? |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
If I am understanding you then in Africa there would be more black people in jail because there are more black people. No. Not at all. ..but it is very easy to spot in the US justice system. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
If I am understanding you then in Africa there would be more black people in jail because there are more black people. I'm sorry to say that this happens in my country as well. Very easy to spot. I'm living among many immigrants. And I meet swedes that are objecting to our "generous" immigrant politics. I don't see the problem. I don't know much about Canada but I wouldn't be surprised if this happen there as well. btw: Racist behaviour is not about the colour of your skin. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Just a conclusion based on what you write and the claims you make. Guess you can't stop. No. It is your thinking that I am reflecting back at you. If you don't like it, examine your thinking. The conclusions you draw are based on false assumptions that do often appear to have their roots in unacknowledged racism. When confronted in this way you have two options. 1) You can clarify you point and make clear what is is you actually meant (assuming that I have indeed misinterpreted what you are saying). 2) you can deflect the argument with mock outrage and hyperbolic accusations. Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Do we have mindreaders here in this forum? |
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