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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
It can't be at a 500 year low and be above normal at the same time. Gary it matters where you measure. That makes sense to me. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19073 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Artic temperatures to go though the roof, at least for a short time. Independent - Storm Frank: Freak weather to hit UK and could make North Pole 50F hotter than normal Washington Post - Freak storm in North Atlantic to lash UK, may push temperatures over 50 degrees above normal at North Pole |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It can't be at a 500 year low and be above normal at the same time. If you cherry pick your data ... both are allegedly measurements of the snowpack in the Sierra Nevada mountains. Sure, some small variation but each survey should be inside the error bars of the other. Above normal and 500 year low are not going to be inside each others error bars. BTW the Sierra Nevara are a large mountain range, dozens of miles wide, hundreds of miles long. It isn't going to be just a handful of points in each survey, they should be the average of a hundred or more. That many data points should smooth out any accidental unknown local conditions bias. Of course intentional cherry picking is another matter. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
You really are being disingenuous Mr Gary. Or tree rings have nothing to do with snowpack water content. |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
The CAUSE of 'IT' ALL. Blue-Eyed Whitey. YepfOshOfOevA Cool Lava Rockin' 'Is' Jealous of Their POWER. Blues Eyes No Cry. HO HUM wif Da DRum DRum. May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Is This the Last Year Below 400? https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/2015/10/21/is-this-the-last-year-below-400/ The article Will the El-Nino dissipate this year ? or will it never dissipate ? Effect or consequence ? |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
The U S Of A CORN Belt Produces 40 Percent More OXYGEN, than Amazon RainForest. WOW! So, What's Big Worry 'bout CO2 Increases? Eh, GlennStraDamus? aka Mr. 400 Eat Corn. Save Planet. Corn CornCornCorn. Cool Lava Rock is Smilin' Yap. May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Gooba the North pole is at a all time record low this year it's approx. 1.25 million klm smaller in area , with only about 2-3 weeks before the normal max sea ice extent if it does not quickly increase then expect this news headline in approx. 7 months from now "North Pole Melts to only 10% of normal size " "Record Melting of the north Pole" Corn is eaten buy humans so the Co2 they consume does not stay out of the atmosphere for long . The Deniers say "No problem we can just plant more trees or Corn " only 1 problem it doesn't help as plants , Forrest's , Jungles and agriculture does not remove the bulk of the Co2. The now toilet that once was called the Oceans is responsible for removing the Co2 plants only keep the status quo .Cutting them down has removed the carbon bank because we have burn't it all and put it back into the atmosphere so there normal effect is moot when extra Co2 is being pumped out at a industrial level Co2 today 404.29 max for Feb 406 , still 3-4 months till the max is hit ,last years max 406 , we are already there how high will it get to this year Oh Gooba you are aware that the so called poler vortex this year happened because a large concentration of Co2 moved into the Artic circle and Co2 being heaver than normal air would have pushed all the cold south and is my opinion that it's also why this years the North pole has a lower sea ice extent |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20326 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... And the effects will be felt worldwide as has long been predicted... Just one unsettling example of a steady litany: Is India facing its worst-ever water crisis? On 11 March, panic struck engineers at a giant power station on the banks of the Ganges river in West Bengal state. Readings showed that the water level in the canal connecting the river to the plant was going down rapidly. Water is used to produce steam to run the turbines and for cooling vital equipment of coal-fired power stations. By next day, authorities were forced to suspend generation at the 2,300-megawatt plant in Farakka town causing shortages in India's power grid. Next, the vast township on the river, where more than 1,000 families of plant workers live, ran out of water... ... "Never before have we shut down the plant because of a shortage of water," says Milan Kumar, a senior plant official. "We are being told by the authorities that water levels in the river have receded, and that they can do very little."... ... Monsoon rains have been scanty in India for the second year in succession. The melting of snow in the Himalayas - the mountain holds the world's largest body of ice outside the polar caps and contributes up to 15% of the river flow - has been delayed this year... We are long long past the arguments of denial. The questions now really are merely chasing the ever finer detail and ever sooner timing. We completely know we are cooking our planet with industrial and industrial farming CO2 and methane in a way this planet has never suffered before. How soon before climate forced Revolution destroys our politicians and industries?... Watch this planet, all within our one lifetime. Incredible. All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Damage done. So I take it then your going to vote for the "Don" then . He sees the writing on the walls . "Build The Wall" How soon before climate forced Revolution destroys our politicians and industries?... It's always those with the papers that say there smarter than everyone else that are the first to be lead to the chopping block . Now pity they aren't smart enough to realise if the masses don't enjoy the wealth then they lose eventually . Oh how smart are the likes of the Stone Masons , Church of scientology , KKK ,KFC Foundation , Rand Corp that there little plan of chaos & destruction will backfire . They forget they are outnumbered so there will be no Utopia for them . Pity they didn't wait till the Robots where ready to do the crap work while they sit back and sip there Martini's . "Science will solve all the problems " Gues what people we are one of those problems they are talking about . |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Damage done. Glenn might think from your posting history that you are a right wing nut extremist. Or perhaps he has you confused with someone else. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Clyde your post is why I said "So I take it then your going to vote for the "Don" then " Why would Darth believe I will be voting for Trump? answer Damage done. Adapt !!! Oh right you mean give in , give up , take what ever, vote who ever But don't fight the good fight and use your own brain .:) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
400 ppm CO2? Add Other GHGs, and It’s Equivalent to 478 ppm The Keeling Curve record from the NOAA-operated Mauna Loa Observatory shows that the atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration hovers around 400 ppm, a level not seen in more than 3 million years when sea levels were as much as 80 feet higher than today http://oceans.mit.edu/news/featured-stories/5-questions-mits-ron-prinn-400-ppm-threshold Oceans at M.I.T |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Cool Lava Rockin' DR HO HUM Here. I've been Shatting 'Darth''Beavers' down Da Lava Tubes fO Hundreds and Hundreds of Years. DRum DRum goes Da Beat Beat as Da'Darth'Beavers' 'Bounce' dere Way Down to da Sea. BTW, 'Climate' 'Change' DENIED. C'mon 4000 ppm CO2! Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I'm locking this thread and any other ones that are getting ridiculous with personal back and forth insults. Reopening in an hour or so. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
This thread has been re-opened. Hot topics require some personal control and moderation. I know it's easy and tempting to post things off the cuff, but please try to accept differences of opinion rationally and discuss without dragging each other in the mud. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
BTW, 'Climate' 'Change' DENIED. C'mon 4000 ppm CO2! Gooba I hope they put you high on a hill or nobody is gona hear your DRUM DRUM under 140 feet of water when the South pole melts . Least you'll be a good home for the crabs and coral to grow on , maybe by the time the Co2 drops back down you'll be completely covered in coral and we won't have to worry about you returning in 50,000 years to beat your Drum |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Daily CO2 March CO2 |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
While looking at Sea ice exstent at the NSIDC web site I see this Sensor on F-17 experiencing difficulties, sea ice time series temporarily suspended http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ How Convenient when we are looking at the worse North pole Melt ever recorded . In there Summer this year . What does the American Government Know we don't know , are they hiding something !! |
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