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The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
However Chris i'm not so shore your as smart as Red is though IQ.163 Oh the irony. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
It's official! Sex & Drugs are now part & parcel of a country's GDP. Well you may recall that the Office for National Statistics recently recalculated the size of our national income to take account of unreported or under-reported parts of the economy, such as research and development, illicit drugs and prostitution. ROFLMAO The cultural mantra from the days of my misspent youth... Sex, Drugs, and Rock&Roll... About... Dang... Time... Now if we could start taxing them over here... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
ROFLMAO or the military's version of those days... ...Sex, Drugs and Lock&Load :-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It's official! Sex & Drugs are now part & parcel of a country's GDP. Nevada ...... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
What Drugs & Alcohol really does to one... ...Lose all common sense I hope the occupants of the other vehicle were uninjured! |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
What Drugs & Alcohol really does to one... Sirius i figure you must have lost some one as you seen very serious about it , but should not the car manufactures theses days build into the car a way of stopping people from driving in the first place . Breath test or mouth swab I'm shore we can do it , still no excuse for drink , drug, driving . |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Three! |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Sorry to here that 1 is bad but 3 wow . Lost my cousin at age 21 , walk out of the local pub put hand in pocket to get cash dropped money on road , bent over to pick it up and got hit by a car , never cought the person either. Lost 3 other friends when they raped a car around a telegraph pole me mate sold his bro the car so he lost his bro and 2 friends i lost 3 friends, not shore if they where stoned but they where doing 150 on a corner not far from where my cousin was killed and not long after too Skit happens mate |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
What Drugs & Alcohol really does to one... Cirius, what does that have to do with this thread which is about cannabis? Not all drugs are the same. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
What Drugs & Alcohol really does to one... A little late with your comment are you not? 1590827 BTW, it's Sirius :-) |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7031 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Drugs, alchohol and ageing.... |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
but should not the car manufactures theses days build into the car a way of stopping people from driving in the first place . They do that in many jurisdictions in the USA on people that get DUI convictions. The driver/owner of the car has to, at their own expense, have a breathalyzer installed in their car. But as you point out, it is open to abuse.
That is the way the law is written. The police don't have much of a choice. Drunk person even not inside the vehicle, but near it (in some jurisdictions), in possession of the keys to said vehicle, OR a drunk person inside of a vehicle and the keys inside the vehicle... Both cases, the drunk person is considered under these insane stupid laws to be 'operating' the vehicle. I remember hearing of one drunk guy that got smart and threw his keys off into the bushes before climbing inside his car to sleep it off. Oh, he got hassled by the police, and he might have been convicted of something else, be he did not get a DUI conviction.
Oh they ALREADY do stuff like this in the USA, especially on repeat offenses. It doesn't help.
A lot of bars in the USA will now call you a cab and pay for it if you need a safe ride home. It is seen to be a lot cheaper by the bar owners to pay for cab rides home than to risk being sued if the customer self-drives and kills someone on the way home. It has to come down to personal responsibility at some point, and I see less and less of that in the 21C. You are SO correct on this one. |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Thought experiment: I've been to the pub and am 'well refreshed'. I walk back to my motorhome, get in the back and go to bed. I am now drunk and asleep inside a motor vehicle. Would i be deemed 'in charge' of this vehicle should the police come knocking? If not, how does being asleep in the back of a motorhome differ from being asleep in the back of a car? Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Thought experiment: The word 'motorhome says it all Simon:)) I don't think a car is a dwelling place... rOZZ Music Pictures |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
If this motorhome was parked upon a public highway then yes, anyone inside it with access to the keys to drive it would be deemed in law to be in charge. If parked on private land, public land, or official caravan park, that would probably not apply. I don't know about lay-bys, that could be a grey area. I remember on our trip this summer, we couldn't park the motorhome where we wanted to, it had to be in designated places or desert places somewhere in the woods where no one could find us:)) rOZZ Music Pictures |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
The word 'motorhome says it all Simon:)) I don't think a car is a dwelling place... If only the law were that simple. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Since we have gone off on a tangent, there is a special exception in the law for limousines, if the driver's compartment is separate, then in the passenger area booze is fine. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Since we have gone off on a tangent, seems just talking about pot get's everyone stoned ........:::))))) |
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