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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Snip Here's what he has to say on the subject Anyone know what a "Forensic Focus" is by any chance? |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Snip Maybe something like NSA vacuum cleaner style snooping. Or 1984. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Terrorist Threat Level Raised, Britain Responds With Jokes:) http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/29/terrorist-threat-level-raised-twitter-responds-with-jokes_n_5737308.html |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Sirius ...... ok I'll assume in future your a D...a.se , not the the clever fellow i thought you where ! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
How nice of you. Expected better, especially from an ex-Londoner. You stated it yourself, the warnings were ignored. That fact alone shows just how difficult it is for those who have "To defend the country". As you fail to see that after that good post of yours... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
janneseti I will keep that in mind in future when i respond to your posts , sorry i do get a bit carried away some times . |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
That fact alone shows just how difficult it is for those who have "To defend the country". The only one's that can say it wasn't there problem is the armed forces as they take action when give orders to do so , however the intelligence services is a different thing along with our leaders |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
That fact alone shows just how difficult it is for those who have "To defend the country". Really & after posting that, you call me a .... Tut, tut, tut. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
call me a .... what does .... mean ? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Bomb Plot at Manila's International Airport Foiled http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/bomb-plot-manilas-international-airport-foiled-officials-n193116 |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Bomb Plot at Manila's International Airport Foiled I hope this is not the start of ISIS spreading to 1 of the most populace Islamic place in the world , South East Asia ! |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Bomb Plot at Manila's International Airport Foiled This conflict has been going on for as long as I can remember, possibly since Spain owned them. |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
I said it before and I'll say it again, but British terror threat levels are idiotic. Substantial, severe, those words are meaningless. What would you have instead? How about:
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I said it before and I'll say it again, but British terror threat levels are idiotic. Substantial, severe, those words are meaningless. Sounds like the 50s and the 60s when we all prepared for nuclear war. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I said it before and I'll say it again, but British terror threat levels are idiotic. Substantial, severe, those words are meaningless. It 69 years since last time. Quite impressive. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
[quote] I have to disgree. In Europe starts a war every 25 year approx. Every war has newer and better weapons and using them. However nukes has still not been used as a tactical weapon. Japan was a strategic descision. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I have to disgree. In Europe starts a war every 25 year approx. I have heard Oppenheimers reaction when they have done the Trinity test and he was reciting some sanscript text. Here we go again... And for that matter. What terror weapon could be better than nuculear weapons? Virus of course but that is very difficult to handle. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
I have to disgree. In Europe starts a war every 25 year approx. So was developing a nuclear weapon. But It got done. I see no obstacles in developing a virus and or bacteria to be used as a weapon. Take small pox or anthrax just for an example. And whosto say the common flu isnt being weaponized. Ebola Now that scares the crap out of me. There is a weapon of mass destruction. [/quote] Old James |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
So was developing a nuclear weapon. But It got done. I see no obstacles in developing a virus and or bacteria to be used as a weapon. Take small pox or anthrax just for an example. And whosto say the common flu isnt being weaponized. Really? You forgot that the nuclear bomb was developed by putting some of the best physicists in the world together in the same project. Even then it cost them years and tons of cash to actually do it. And thats building a nuclear bomb which is a relatively easy weapon to make. Now viruses. You have to realize that there is no perfect weapons grade virus in nature. We know this because we still exist. Ebola scares you? Ebola would also make a pretty useless weapon. It kills to quickly and its to difficult to spread. We are currently seeing the largest outbreak in history and it has killed what? 1500 people? Honestly, regular bombs and machine guns kill 1500 people quicker and more effectively than Ebola. And compared to the Spanish flu or the plague 1500 dead people is nothing. But okay, say you are stupid enough to try and build a biological bomb using some virus you found. Its not a matter of swapping that virus over a grenade and throwing it in a crowded building. No, you need a way of delivering the virus. The easiest way would be through gas. But then you immediately run into a problem because most viruses can't stay airborne for long. So that limits the amount of viruses you can use or you need to manipulate a different virus and make it possible to go airborne. Which requires a specialized lab set up and some of the best and brightest in the field of viruses. And I have the feeling its pretty difficult to get the best and brightest in the field to make you a weaponized virus. But okay, say they do, then you need to bring said virus in said dispersal container to a place where you want to infect people. Probably something like a subway or large hall. You set the thing to disperse and walk away. Mission successful? No, because even with a weaponized virus there are a lot of other variables during the dispersal stage. Airflows, etc. Essentially you are using a sort of toxic gas and that is a notoriously difficult thing to get right. Take the attacks on the Tokyo subway with Sarin gas. It only killed a few people because a number of the containers didnt work and the gas was for the most part to diluted to actually kill people. The same risks exist for using a virus. Its not just a matter of getting it in the air, its also a matter of making sure people get a high enough dose of it to actually become sick. So, do you think thats within the range of a terrorist organization? I hardly think so. |
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