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Message 1664187 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 18:24:24 UTC - in response to Message 1664175.  

Its really hard to read your posts, Clyde. I don't even know what you are trying to say here and I can't be bothered to try and figure it out today.
I wish you'd stop using ALLCAPS. It makes you constantly look like you are ranting and shouting. That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.
I can't deal with your apparent frothing and spitting right now. Ease off the CAPSLOCK and I might be able to decipher your posts a little better.

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Please explain ES99...
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Message 1664271 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 21:32:33 UTC - in response to Message 1664187.  
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Its really hard to read your posts, Clyde. I don't even know what you are trying to say here and I can't be bothered to try and figure it out today.
I wish you'd stop using ALLCAPS. It makes you constantly look like you are ranting and shouting. That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.
I can't deal with your apparent frothing and spitting right now. Ease off the CAPSLOCK and I might be able to decipher your posts a little better.

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Please explain ES99...

Typing something all in capital letters is considered shouting on internet forums. Clyde appears to shout a lot.
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Message 1664274 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 21:45:01 UTC - in response to Message 1663338.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.


Your argument holds very little water.

In the 1940's 90% of the UK population by your reckoning did not support the war against Nazi Germany.

Only 3.5 Million out of a population of 49 Million served in the UK Armed Forces.
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Message 1664456 - Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 10:06:18 UTC - in response to Message 1664274.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.


Your argument holds very little water.

In the 1940's 90% of the UK population by your reckoning did not support the war against Nazi Germany.

Only 3.5 Million out of a population of 49 Million served in the UK Armed Forces.

Get it right WK.

Make that 50%, 30% built tanks planes & ships as well as the ammunition needed & 10% worked on the farms to help feed everyone. :-)
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Message 1664573 - Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 16:41:22 UTC - in response to Message 1664499.  
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Es99...

This is what I Posted, and Your Response:

Again, as always, misinterpreting what I said.

I take huge issue with this sentence, because you are implying that I often don't know what you are trying to say deliberately. That is another way of saying I am being quite nasty. I don't like your accusation and I don't agree with it. You are being unpleasant.
It is a habit of yours.

That is your claim. It is a rude and unhelpful claim. I can only assume that you are being rude and unhelpful because you are angry.

EVERYTHING you stated above, is true. So?


I don't know what this sentence means.

You have capitalised EVERYTHING, which implies you are shouting. You have phrased it like a question, yet there is no question mark. Is that a typo? What does the 'so?' mean at the end? It looks like a question..but as I don't understand if you have already asked me a question or you are agreeing with my former post. I have no idea what the 'So?' means.

So I can take what you wrote here to mean. "everything you have said is true, we are in agreement" or "everything you say is true?" which implies disbelief. The capitalisation of EVERYTHING makes me think you are annoyed.

At this point I give up trying to understand.

Has NOTHING to do with the Foundation of my Post.

There is a word missing at the beginning of your sentence which makes it hard to interpret what has nothing to do with the foundation of your post. The capitalisation of the word NOTHING implies you are shouting and angry, but without the word at the beginning of your sentence it is hard to know what you are shouting about. The word could be "it" it could be "this" it could be "cats" I have no idea as I am already lost as to what your are talking about right from the start of your post. I am also wandering why there is a capital letter at the beginning of Foundation. This implies some importance to word, but as there is no clarity as to what the foundation of your post actually is, this sentence also conveys very little meaning.

Why would believing that 'Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely', have you Posting the above?

Why believing that Negative, will Always out way Positive, have you Posting the above?

Why believing that Evil, will ALWAYS take power from the Majority Good, have you Posting the above?

Why?

This is where it gets weird because I didn't reply to that. Looking back I carefully snipped out that and replied to the following part of your post:

...
Humans, of course. With ALL the Negatives, and Positives.

Unfortunately, The Negatives, always outweigh The Positives.
..


as you can see, there is nothing there about 'Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely'. Nothing. So your reply is absolute insane nonsense. No wonder I was confused. When I read your reply I felt like Dorothy landing in Oz. I was not in Kanasas any more.

Not only that, you seemed really annoyed about it. Remember what I said about writing in capital letters makes it look like you are shouting? Read out your post remember to shout the words in capital letters, and remember, you are replying about my supposed reply to something you said that I very carefully didn't reply to.

Just another heads up, the 3 dots "..." before and after what I quoted are there to show that I have snipped out part of your quote. Not to be tidy, but because I am not referring to those parts of your posts.

You replied:

Its really hard to read your posts, Clyde. I don't even know what you are trying to say here and I can't be bothered to try and figure it out today.

I wish you'd stop using ALLCAPS. It makes you constantly look like you are ranting and shouting. That and the use of extremes like "evil" and "vile" etc etc.

I can't deal with your apparent frothing and spitting right now. Ease off the CAPSLOCK and I might be able to decipher your posts a little better.

I hope that now I have taken to the time to explain what is confusing about your posts you have a better understanding as to why people misunderstand you.

Questions:

Why would believing that 'Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely', have you Posting the above?

It didn't. So I hope that clears that up for you. When you start shouting about something that literally did not happen, it can get very bewildering.

What is difficult to "Decipher", and why describe it as "Frothing and Spitting?

Hopefully we've cleared that up now and you will monitor your use of capital letters and incomplete sentences. When you leave words or punctuation out of a sentence it gives the impression that you have typed so furiously that you haven't noticed your errors.

Why believing that Negative, will Always out way Positive, have you Posting the above?

..because it gave the impression that you think the worst of people. If that is not what you mean by that sentence, then you need to explain what you did mean.

What is difficult to "Decipher", and why describe it as "Frothing and Spitting?

Missing words, missing punctuation, complaining about things that didn't happen, not defining the subject of your sentence and intermittent use of words typed all in capitals.

Why believing that Evil, will ALWAYS take power from the Majority Good, have you Posting the above?

I am not sure what you are talking about here, as it did not have me posting the above. You have asked "why" I did something when I had not done it. Its rather like asking someone when they last beat their wife. It might be a great interrogation technique, but it is a terrible discussion technique. Have you ever been interrogated by a cop? Even as a witness? Its a horrible experience. If you insist of using that technique here you are creating that horrible experience for everyone else. Except here we don't have to put up with it.

Oh, and again, your capitalising of words for emphasis gives your sentence a weird cadence that does sound like you are ranting. Try reading it out shouting the words all in capitals and emphasising the words you have given a capital letter. It sounds strange right?

What is difficult to "Decipher", and why describe it as "Frothing and Spitting?

Could you please explain?


I have. Normally I would charge $50/h for marking your work, but this one is for free.
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Message 1664708 - Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 22:19:16 UTC - in response to Message 1664456.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.


Your argument holds very little water.

In the 1940's 90% of the UK population by your reckoning did not support the war against Nazi Germany.

Only 3.5 Million out of a population of 49 Million served in the UK Armed Forces.

Get it right WK.

Make that 50%, 30% built tanks planes & ships as well as the ammunition needed & 10% worked on the farms to help feed everyone. :-)

No, I got it right, Es in her posts implies all those not on the front line are not part of the conflict. But how many of them directly support the cause with donations or actual work, is unknown. And there are suggestions that donations for humanitarian causes are diverted frequently into the hands of Hamas. Like cement, supposedly to rebuild being used for tunnels.
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Message 1664754 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 2:14:27 UTC - in response to Message 1664723.  

With Es99 verbiage, signifying internal confusion regarding 'Thinking out of her Universe':

Believe I have made my point.

I think your first sentence makes my point.
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Message 1664755 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 2:15:16 UTC - in response to Message 1664708.  

Its racism when you hold an entire people responsible for the actions of some of them.


Your argument holds very little water.

In the 1940's 90% of the UK population by your reckoning did not support the war against Nazi Germany.

Only 3.5 Million out of a population of 49 Million served in the UK Armed Forces.

Get it right WK.

Make that 50%, 30% built tanks planes & ships as well as the ammunition needed & 10% worked on the farms to help feed everyone. :-)

No, I got it right, Es in her posts implies all those not on the front line are not part of the conflict. But how many of them directly support the cause with donations or actual work, is unknown. And there are suggestions that donations for humanitarian causes are diverted frequently into the hands of Hamas. Like cement, supposedly to rebuild being used for tunnels.

If it is unknown then the last thing you want to do is inflict collective punishment on the people of Gaza. That will only make thing worse.
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Message 1664913 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 8:54:35 UTC

Lot's of OFF TOPIC now
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Message 1664996 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 14:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 1664995.  

Lot's of OFF TOPIC now

Correct. But was interesting, in a weird way.

I don't mind being off topic. But some here in this SETI fora do:)
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Message 1665009 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 14:34:46 UTC - in response to Message 1664996.  

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the elephant in the room...

"What is it about a small nation called Israel that miffs off much of the world?"

There is a billion people in China, & not much is focused on their "human rights" violations.

Where is that same angst against the Muslim world that allows them to slaughter each other like pigs in an abattoir yet denounce Israel at every turn?
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Message 1665012 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 14:42:21 UTC - in response to Message 1665009.  

There is a billion people in China, & not much is focused on their "human rights" violations.

There is more than a billion people in China now.
â—¾The population of China is estimated at 1,393,783,836 as of July 1 2014.
â—¾China's population is equivalent to 19.24% of the total world population.
â—¾China ranks number 1 in the list of countries by population.
â—¾The population density in China is 145 people per Km2.
â—¾54% of the population is urban (756,300,115 people in 2014).
â—¾The median age in China is 35.7 years.

"Human rights"
Well as in all countries there are those who have more "Human rights" then others...
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Message 1665041 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 16:17:16 UTC - in response to Message 1665009.  
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I'm still waiting for someone to answer the elephant in the room...

"What is it about a small nation called Israel that miffs off much of the world?"

There is a billion people in China, & not much is focused on their "human rights" violations.

Where is that same angst against the Muslim world that allows them to slaughter each other like pigs in an abattoir yet denounce Israel at every turn?

Your question has been answered many times in this thread. They are committing human rights abuses against the people of Gaza, and they are doing with the support of countries like the USA. However, even the USA is starting to get a little tired of it.
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Message 1665043 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 16:24:18 UTC - in response to Message 1665041.  

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the elephant in the room...
"What is it about a small nation called Israel that miffs off much of the world?"
There is a billion people in China, & not much is focused on their "human rights" violations.
Where is that same angst against the Muslim world that allows them to slaughter each other like pigs in an abattoir yet denounce Israel at every turn?

Your question has been answered many times in this thread. They are committing human rights abuses against the people of Gaza, and they are doing with the support of countries like the USA. However, even the USA is starting to get a little tired of it.

Hang on ES99. Do we have to read ALL postings in a thread before we comment?

About Gaza.
Gaza is a part of Palestina. Right?
Palestina is a NATION. Right?
How many countries are recognizing Palestina as a nation?
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Message 1665072 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 17:29:43 UTC - in response to Message 1665041.  

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the elephant in the room...

"What is it about a small nation called Israel that miffs off much of the world?"

There is a billion people in China, & not much is focused on their "human rights" violations.

Where is that same angst against the Muslim world that allows them to slaughter each other like pigs in an abattoir yet denounce Israel at every turn?

Your question has been answered many times in this thread. They are committing human rights abuses against the people of Gaza, and they are doing with the support of countries like the USA. However, even the USA is starting to get a little tired of it.

All I see is people condemning Israel. What about the vicious human rights violations happening every day elsewhere in the Middle East? Where is the furore over that?

You force a rat into a corner & it will know it's doomed so will come out fighting no holds barred. Unfortunately the rat known as Israel will not lie down & die.
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Message 1665077 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 18:06:17 UTC - in response to Message 1665072.  


All I see is people condemning Israel. What about the vicious human rights violations happening every day elsewhere in the Middle East? Where is the furore over that?

You didn't notice all the wars and bombing missions?

You are right that there is no furore over Saudi Arabia, because like Israel they have the support of the US.

You force a rat into a corner & it will know it's doomed so will come out fighting no holds barred. Unfortunately the rat known as Israel will not lie down & die.


I think that analogy applies to Gaza more than Israel. Israel far superior military and it has the support from the US because of the huge pro-Israel lobby.
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Message 1665084 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 18:36:28 UTC - in response to Message 1665077.  
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Where did I mention Saudi Arabia?

I stated "the rest of the Middle East". That is Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Qatar, UAE, Yemen, Kuwait, Israel, Lebanon & Saudi Arabia.

All the wars & bombings? They were piddling little affairs compared to 1967 & 1973. Those two were intended to push Israel into the sea. After the holocaust, there is no way Israel would let that happen.

Middle East

All that lovely land available & yet the Muslim world won't slice off some of that to house the Palestinians.

Instead they get placed right next door to the most highly contentious piece of land in Middle Eastern History.
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Message 1665091 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 18:58:09 UTC - in response to Message 1665077.  

You are right that there is no furore over Saudi Arabia, because like Israel they have the support of the US.

Now I'm getting nervous.
Are you saying that the US are supporting Saudi Arabia?
The country that doesn't allow females to drive a car.
The country that stone females to Death if she happens to look at another man?
The country that prohibit depictions of Camels when there is snowing in Saudi and for joke someone making snow sculpturs of them.
The country that prohibit alcohol served in public but is OK in private?
The country that drive to the desert and "deposit" a LOT of beer, wine and hard liqure empties in some fancy SUV's?
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Message 1665092 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 19:04:56 UTC - in response to Message 1665091.  

Where do you think Western Forces were based for "Desert Storm"?
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Message 1665100 - Posted: 13 Apr 2015, 19:23:41 UTC - in response to Message 1665092.  

Where do you think Western Forces were based for "Desert Storm"?

Please define Western Forces :)
Never mind I know who where responsible for Desert Storm.
The US supreme commander was Norman Schwarzkopf. (If you translate it to Swedish Svartskalle "Blackhead" meaning the N-word).

That Saudi are "allies" with the US, could it be because of OIL and the bin Laden Family?
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