OK, 13:00 UTC has arrived. Any more error messages to report, while I draft the email?

pre- and code-tags don't work correctly. less-than character is converted to < in both and code-tag eats line breaks.

pre:

less-than: <
another line

code:

less-than: <
another line

That got broken on the Boinc dev board too.

Claggy

OK, 13:00 UTC has arrived. Any more error messages to report, while I draft the email?

pre- and code-tags don't work correctly. less-than character is converted to < in both and code-tag eats line breaks.

pre:

less-than: <
another line

code:

less-than: <
another line

And now also at Beta. B***er. You'd expect to be swapping code snippets on a Beta project, even if it isn't a high priority here. Addendum upcoming...

OK, I've collected four different error messages from

forum_index.php
home.php
sah_donate.php
show_user.php

(home and sah_donate are similar but subtly different)

Any more contributions for the compendium in the next couple of hours, please - say by 13:00 UTC - and I'll bundle them up and send them off.

Edit - found another one in sah_status.php
And enjoy http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/status.php

Did you happen to drop a reminder about http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/client_types.php not updating, or is that more for the project guys to do?

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OK, I've collected four different error messages from

forum_index.php
home.php
sah_donate.php
show_user.php

(home and sah_donate are similar but subtly different)

Any more contributions for the compendium in the next couple of hours, please - say by 13:00 UTC - and I'll bundle them up and send them off.

Edit - found another one in sah_status.php
And enjoy http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/status.php

Did you happen to drop a reminder about http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/client_types.php not updating, or is that more for the project guys to do?

Some of the other new stats tools like cpu_list.php and gpu_list.php are clearly BOINC-generic, because they work at other projects too. But client_types.php doesn't (and it's not in the BOINC source \html\user tree) - so I think it must be SETI-specific, and doesn't really belong in David's lap with the rest of this set. I did mention it in passing when we sorted out the last BOINC-induced server error - old client versions not being allocated new work, at the beginning of this month - but I didn't make a big song-and-dance about it. Just that it would have been useful then...

I get this on my account page:

Warning: mysql_query(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/seti_boinc_html/donations.inc on line 17 Warning: mysql_query(): A link to the server could not be established in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/seti_boinc_html/donations.inc on line 17 Warning: mysql_fetch_object(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/seti_boinc_html/donations.inc on line 18

You and I are both donors already - that's probably why we both get it on our account page, but Glenn doesn't. Is your donation history (number/total amount of donations and date of last donation) missing?

I got this too, just a few minutes ago, and yes my donations are missing.

I had some database errors in the forums last night, about the time the cricket shows a big spike (6pm PDT), but I just went back and tried again and it was okay.

I wasn't paying attention to my crunchers' connections at the time.

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Has anyone else noticed a problem with the the validators running way behind. I know of at least 5 of my WUs that have been reported by both me and my wingman and are still sitting in a Validation Pending state, with "Completed, waiting for validation", for over 15 hours.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599799024
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599798865
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599792725
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599792731
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599799042

There are probably more, but I stopped checking after 5. I noticed these before I went to bed last night, but decided to wait until this morning to see if they had validated. They don't appear to have done so. (I even cleared my browser cache, just to make sure I wasn't getting old news.)

These were all reported after yesterdays outage.

Edit: Oh yeah, I've got lots more! It looks like any tasks I reported between about 23:41 and 23:51 UTC yesterday, where I was the second wingman to report (which should have triggered the validators) are hung up in Neverland!

OK, 13:00 UTC has arrived. Any more error messages to report, while I draft the email?

pre- and code-tags don't work correctly. less-than character is converted to < in both and code-tag eats line breaks.

pre:

less-than: <
another line

code:

less-than: <
another line

That got broken on the Boinc dev board too.

Claggy

I can finally do them. They now work for me, both as HTML code and as the actual character. ;-)

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Has anyone else noticed a problem with the the validators running way behind. I know of at least 5 of my WUs that have been reported by both me and my wingman and are still sitting in a Validation Pending state, with "Completed, waiting for validation", for over 15 hours.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599799024
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599798865
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599792725
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599792731
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599799042

There are probably more, but I stopped checking after 5. I noticed these before I went to bed last night, but decided to wait until this morning to see if they had validated. They don't appear to have done so. (I even cleared my browser cache, just to make sure I wasn't getting old news.)

These were all reported after yesterdays outage.

With 1,129 pending, I think I'll wait until the daily reports have purged through before checking to see what's left - the anomalies will stand out more clearly then. Somebody remind me in a couple of weeks, please.

There is a failsafe in place, which weeds out most errors like that - the transitioners/validators take a second look at stuck WUs on the day the original deadlines would have passed (three weeks for shorties, six/seven/eight weeks away for the rest). I think the database can stand a short-term overload like that - and think of your credits as safe in a savings account.

But I think most regular posters will have instances of pending tasks which get stuck for months, or even years - that's a more serious problem, because there's no remaining failsafe triggering another retry. That should be added to the list of things that would be fixed if the project had an infinite supply of Round Tuits, but it's a long list.

Richard,

Looks like I was editing my post while you were typing, so I'll copy it here.

Edit: Oh yeah, I've got lots more! It looks like any tasks I reported between about 23:41 and 23:51 UTC yesterday, where I was the second wingman to report (which should have triggered the validators) are hung up in Neverland!

Perhaps some other high-volume users could take a look in that window and see if there's a pattern.

I can finally do them. They now work for me, both as HTML code and as the actual character. ;-)

Then work your magic here too, please.

I've got a 9,000+ character, 229 line code snippet in my private message inbox from the server problems at the beginning of this month, and it's being rendered all on one line.

Talk about thread s - t - r - e - t - c - h - i - n - g ...

Richard,

Looks like I was editing my post while you were typing, so I'll copy it here.

Edit: Oh yeah, I've got lots more! It looks like any tasks I reported between about 23:41 and 23:51 UTC yesterday, where I was the second wingman to report (which should have triggered the validators) are hung up in Neverland!

Perhaps some other high-volume users could take a look in that window and see if there's a pattern.

Fair point. There are only 22 'Workunits waiting for validation' shown on the server status page (down from 63 a few minutes ago), so it sounds like that counting routine is broken too, even though the page itself seems to be working despite the error messages.

I'm do have this error code on every page

Notice: Undefined variable: PROJECT in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/languages/compiled/pl.po.inc on line 374

Maybe because I'm in Finland but I do use English language WinXP/Chrome and I choose English as my language in S@H pages?

Also fonts are really big etc.

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Richard,

Looks like I was editing my post while you were typing, so I'll copy it here.

Edit: Oh yeah, I've got lots more! It looks like any tasks I reported between about 23:41 and 23:51 UTC yesterday, where I was the second wingman to report (which should have triggered the validators) are hung up in Neverland!

Perhaps some other high-volume users could take a look in that window and see if there's a pattern.

Fair point. There are only 22 'Workunits waiting for validation' shown on the server status page (down from 63 a few minutes ago), so it sounds like that counting routine is broken too, even though the page itself seems to be working despite the error messages.

Here's another twist. For WU 1598612308 mine was the third host tie-breaker. My task is "Completed, waiting for validation", while the other 2 are still "Completed, validation inconclusive".

Wez,

Most people are seeing these as well on different pages. Seems to be related to the changes they did yesterday. Hopefully they are working on fixing these problems.

Wez,

Most people are seeing these as well on different pages. Seems to be related to the changes they did yesterday. Hopefully they are working on fixing these problems.

That particular one hadn't been mentioned before, and wasn't in my 'comprenhensive compendium' error report to the BOINC devs.

I can't see it on "every page", even by selecting a non-default language, but I do see it on language_select.php, so I'll add it to the next batch.

Hmm, here's a poser as I've not seen it mentioned anywhere. Now that the project has relocated to the colo, rather than see all this testing on Seti main, why not re-activate Boinc Alpha & do all the testing there & as well on Seti Beta?

Or are the Boinc servers at UCB rather than the colo?

I can finally do them. They now work for me, both as HTML code and as the actual character. ;-)

Then work your magic here too, please.

Make everyone a project admin? :P

Here's another twist. For WU 1598612308 mine was the third host tie-breaker. My task is "Completed, waiting for validation", while the other 2 are still "Completed, validation inconclusive".

And APs are included, too:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599954929

Hmm, here's a poser as I've not seen it mentioned anywhere. Now that the project has relocated to the colo, rather than see all this testing on Seti main, why not re-activate Boinc Alpha & do all the testing there & as well on Seti Beta?

Or are the Boinc servers at UCB rather than the colo?

Two possible answers to that one:

1) By testing here, there are many more pairs of eyes available for proof-reading, and the bugs get eradicated quickly.
2) David thinks that the code he writes is good enough to be placed in the public domain immediately, without testing.

I'll leave it to readers to choose their own solution.....

The physical location of the servers is irrelevant - server administrators globally are used to working remotely these days, and very little is done hands-on except hardware replacement. For what it's worth, the BOINC server (Isaac) was relocated to the colo as well, shortly after the SETI server farm was moved.

Hmm, here's a poser as I've not seen it mentioned anywhere. Now that the project has relocated to the colo, rather than see all this testing on Seti main, why not re-activate Boinc Alpha & do all the testing there & as well on Seti Beta?

Or are the Boinc servers at UCB rather than the colo?

Well the colo is part of the Berkeley campus & run by their IT staff IIRC.

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