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Message 1537467 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 19:47:45 UTC - in response to Message 1537463.  

That women was warned that she is using WAY too much water some time ago. She must have kept all faucets open 24/7. Then of all the people shut off she becomes the poster child for "capitalist greed".

I heard there was a problem with leaky pipes all over the city that was causing water to be wasted. Could that be why her bills were so high?
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Message 1537475 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 20:00:41 UTC - in response to Message 1537467.  
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That women was warned that she is using WAY too much water some time ago. She must have kept all faucets open 24/7. Then of all the people shut off she becomes the poster child for "capitalist greed".

I heard there was a problem with leaky pipes all over the city that was causing water to be wasted. Could that be why her bills were so high?

The billing water meter is installed at the residence so the leaking, $6000 worth, would have to take place in her home.

I quote from the poster child;
“I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.” We have a winner, she knows how much water she uses with the taps open 24/7. Good thing you people have Batter UP on this supposed forum to cut through the B.S.
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Message 1537476 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 20:05:37 UTC - in response to Message 1537475.  

I quote from the poster child;
“I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.” We have a winner, she knows how much water she uses with the taps open 24/7. Good thing you people have Batter UP on this supposed forum to cut through the B.S.

Do you actually read those reports in full that you provide? To counter that it bold...

“I have questioned the water department on several occasions about [it] and got no remedy to what could possibly be causing it,” she said. “Every time I contradict something, they come up with another explanation as to why my water bill is supposedly accurate.

I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.”

Good job there are those on here to cut through the B/S.
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Message 1537489 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 20:20:55 UTC - in response to Message 1537476.  

I quote from the poster child;
“I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.” We have a winner, she knows how much water she uses with the taps open 24/7. Good thing you people have Batter UP on this supposed forum to cut through the B.S.

Do you actually read those reports in full that you provide? To counter that it bold...
I quoted the part where she let the truth slip out.

A utility is required to do a meter check if a customer requests one. I did this for my electric meter, I was told they would change it but new well oiled meters run faster than older ones. I said never mind but they changed it anyway during the next reading.
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Message 1537490 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 20:24:05 UTC - in response to Message 1537476.  

Do you actually read those reports in full that you provide?

Of course he didn't. He gets better bites on the line with bait.
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Message 1537492 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 20:30:01 UTC - in response to Message 1537489.  

I quote from the poster child;
“I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.” We have a winner, she knows how much water she uses with the taps open 24/7. Good thing you people have Batter UP on this supposed forum to cut through the B.S.

Do you actually read those reports in full that you provide? To counter that it bold...
I quoted the part where she let the truth slip out.

You need to cut back on your smoking as it seems to be addling your brain cells too much.
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Message 1537500 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 20:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 1537467.  

That women was warned that she is using WAY too much water some time ago. She must have kept all faucets open 24/7. Then of all the people shut off she becomes the poster child for "capitalist greed".

I heard there was a problem with leaky pipes all over the city that was causing water to be wasted. Could that be why her bills were so high?

Not her bill, not that much, but a few pennies in general. It costs a lot to run a bunch of crews all over the now mostly abandoned city with back hoes, plumbers, and paving crews. Costs a lot more when 50% of bills are delinquent and another 50% of customers up and left (mortgage meltdown). Obviously the city didn't put enough aside for continuing infrastructure maintenance. However I bet running the pumps is less than the cost of fixing every little drip. (They aren't paying the lake for the water are they?) BTW Los Angeles has a similar broken pipe problem because much of the system in getting to be a century old. LA realized this a few years ago raised rates to cover a long term, couple decades, program to replace the aging pipes under the streets.
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Message 1537511 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 20:55:33 UTC - in response to Message 1537500.  

So with LA's water issue being that obvious, why didn't Detroit take the same measures?

A case of letting the next generation take care of that problem while they continue feasting on a reducing public purse maybe?
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Message 1537520 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 21:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 1537511.  

So with LA's water issue being that obvious, why didn't Detroit take the same measures?

A case of letting the next generation take care of that problem while they continue feasting on a reducing public purse maybe?

Inflation? But of course.

I would have thought Detroit's pipe breakage would have shown up much sooner due to the freeze-thaw cycle. LA's only became apparent after a little shake rattle and roll.
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Message 1537548 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 21:51:53 UTC - in response to Message 1537520.  

But LA did something about their problem. Makes one wonder why Detroit did nothing...

...too busy supping at the trough provided by the public?
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Message 1537549 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 21:53:21 UTC - in response to Message 1537476.  

I quote from the poster child;
“I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.” We have a winner, she knows how much water she uses with the taps open 24/7. Good thing you people have Batter UP on this supposed forum to cut through the B.S.

Do you actually read those reports in full that you provide? To counter that it bold...

“I have questioned the water department on several occasions about [it] and got no remedy to what could possibly be causing it,” she said. “Every time I contradict something, they come up with another explanation as to why my water bill is supposedly accurate.

I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.”

Good job there are those on here to cut through the B/S.

I'm guessing he's never been misbilled on anything and then had to convince a utility company that they are the ones making the mistake. Like the time the electric company got mine and my neighbour's meters mixed up so I was paying for his and he was paying for mine. Worked well in my favour, but not so much his. Oh..and the idiots in the call centre were ever so helpful...lol.
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Message 1537554 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 21:58:17 UTC - in response to Message 1537548.  

But LA did something about their problem. Makes one wonder why Detroit did nothing...

...too busy supping at the trough provided by the public?

Maybe. Or maybe the tragic failure to realize that no one is going to rescue you, so you had better plan for the future.
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Message 1537559 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 22:01:45 UTC - in response to Message 1537554.  

But LA did something about their problem. Makes one wonder why Detroit did nothing...

...too busy supping at the trough provided by the public?

Maybe. Or maybe the tragic failure to realize that no one is going to rescue you, so you had better plan for the future.

Ah come on Gary, now you gotta be joking...

...just how many have actually done that only to see their savings wiped out due to (insert own views here)...

...after all, you're the one that keeps emphasising that duty to shareholders comes first...

...which comes back to what I've already stated...

public utilities should not be in the hands of shareholders
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Message 1537568 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 22:06:21 UTC - in response to Message 1537554.  

But LA did something about their problem. Makes one wonder why Detroit did nothing...

...too busy supping at the trough provided by the public?

Maybe. Or maybe the tragic failure to realize that no one is going to rescue you, so you had better plan for the future.

Clearly you are oblivious to the fact that planning for the future is a luxury for some people.

Its nice to be sanctimonious about people who are living pay check to pay check, or not even that.

You ever been there? I have. Life is triage at that point.

Planning for the future...talk about living in the bubble.
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Message 1537569 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 22:06:52 UTC - in response to Message 1537549.  

I quote from the poster child;
“I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.” We have a winner, she knows how much water she uses with the taps open 24/7. Good thing you people have Batter UP on this supposed forum to cut through the B.S.

Do you actually read those reports in full that you provide? To counter that it bold...

“I have questioned the water department on several occasions about [it] and got no remedy to what could possibly be causing it,” she said. “Every time I contradict something, they come up with another explanation as to why my water bill is supposedly accurate.

I don’t see any way I could be capable of using that much water without it just literally running nonstop, 24/7.”

Good job there are those on here to cut through the B/S.

I'm guessing he's never been misbilled on anything and then had to convince a utility company that they are the ones making the mistake. Like the time the electric company got mine and my neighbour's meters mixed up so I was paying for his and he was paying for mine. Worked well in my favour, but not so much his. Oh..and the idiots in the call centre were ever so helpful...lol.

BTDT. Loved the one day bill for electric service that was for $10,000,000.00+. Call center, "but that is your bill." Never mind it was half the generating capacity of the utility! The call center person did smell something up, but obviously was forbidden to make corrections. In a very hushed tone, given a direct number to a big boss supervisor. That call went a bit better.

However in this case, we don't know if it is a mistake, or if it is years of unpaid normal bills.
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Message 1537570 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 22:08:34 UTC - in response to Message 1537559.  

...which comes back to what I've already stated...

public utilities should not be in the hands of shareholders

And since when is "The City Of Detroit, Michigan" a shareholder owned entity?
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Message 1537573 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 22:09:29 UTC - in response to Message 1537568.  

But LA did something about their problem. Makes one wonder why Detroit did nothing...

...too busy supping at the trough provided by the public?

Maybe. Or maybe the tragic failure to realize that no one is going to rescue you, so you had better plan for the future.

Clearly you are oblivious to the fact that planning for the future is a luxury for some people.

Its nice to be sanctimonious about people who are living pay check to pay check, or not even that.

You ever been there? I have. Life is triage at that point.

Planning for the future...talk about living in the bubble.

You mean a city shouldn't plan for the future? Interesting thought process.
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Message 1537574 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 22:11:43 UTC - in response to Message 1537559.  

...just how many have actually done that only to see their savings wiped out due to (insert own views here)...

public utilities should not be in the hands of shareholders

"(insert own views here)"; they gave all their money to Bernie Madoff.

The old Bell System was a utility that was publicly held. They did OK. A publicly held utility in the US of A is regulated by but not run by the government.
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Message 1537575 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 22:12:13 UTC - in response to Message 1537573.  

But LA did something about their problem. Makes one wonder why Detroit did nothing...

...too busy supping at the trough provided by the public?

Maybe. Or maybe the tragic failure to realize that no one is going to rescue you, so you had better plan for the future.

Clearly you are oblivious to the fact that planning for the future is a luxury for some people.

Its nice to be sanctimonious about people who are living pay check to pay check, or not even that.

You ever been there? I have. Life is triage at that point.

Planning for the future...talk about living in the bubble.

You mean a city shouldn't plan for the future? Interesting thought process.

The context looks like you are talking about the woman with $6000 bill. If I misread it, I apologise. I was just basing my interpretation on comments you have made prior about poor people.
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Message 1537576 - Posted: 7 Jul 2014, 22:12:37 UTC

Actually, why is no one bailing out Detroit? Why aren't there any capital injections to at least make sure basic life necessities are still provided to the citizens of the city, even if they can't pay the bills? You guys have no problem bailing out a bank, but you won't bail out a big city? That seems screwed up to say the least.
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